1. 06-22-14 09:19 PM #36
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    USA will defend during 90 minutes to get a draw but a 1-0 Germany would not be unlikely

    actually i see no reason to play anything on this match, too much speculation, you have to be addicted to bet on this
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  2. 06-22-14 09:28 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoBlue77 View Post
    rookie.

    if you're in love with a draw, you wait for a team to score and then the other team would be +odds higher than that not to mention the odds for a draw. LIVE BETTING
    Dude it's soccer, if they don't push forward you will never have an opportunity to bet in live betting with a scoreless draw. If they score why not put more money in live betting with better odds.

    You have to push your analysis more than that and manage the game pregame and in live betting.
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  3. 06-22-14 09:30 PM #38
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    i LOVE live betting in soccer
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  4. 06-22-14 09:36 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Draw is likely because Germany would rather have USA advance than Portugal or Ghana.
    Not really. Neither Portugal nor Ghana will make the semi-finals.
    Other things to know:
    1) Germany lost to the US in the last meeting. A revenge may be in store.
    2) Should Klose play, a goal by him would make him the highest goal score in World Cup history. I don't see him getting a scoring opportunity and deliberately refusing to score.
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  5. 06-22-14 09:52 PM #40
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    Im trying to get USA+1 on 5dimes.I can only get +.5, +1 -107?Is that getting +1?
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  6. 06-22-14 09:55 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salmonman View Post
    Germany 3-1 USA
    Yup and Ghana will roll and US misses the next stage....you watch

    us loses 3-1 Ghana wins were out
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  7. 06-22-14 09:56 PM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoBlue77 View Post
    rookie.

    if you're in love with a draw, you wait for a team to score and then the other team would be +odds higher than that not to mention the odds for a draw. LIVE BETTING
    Live betting with ridiculous hidden chalk. Good call buddy.
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  8. 06-22-14 10:00 PM #43
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    In the event that both games do NOT draw, isn't the loser of USA/Germany almost a lock (barring two blowouts) to advance by tie breaker via either head to head or goal differential???
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  9. 06-22-14 10:02 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by GT21Megatron View Post
    Yup and Ghana will roll and US misses the next stage....you watch

    us loses 3-1 Ghana wins were out
    So they go strictly by goal differential and not head to head?
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  10. 06-22-14 10:07 PM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by thefonzo View Post
    So they go strictly by goal differential and not head to head?
    GD is first tie breaker, H2H is 2nd.
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  11. 06-22-14 10:07 PM #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by thefonzo View Post
    So they go strictly by goal differential and not head to head?
    Exactly
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  12. 06-22-14 10:14 PM #47
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    So is soccer the only only sport on earth that DOESN'T use H2H as first means of a tie break?

    Gonna be a lot of confused/pissed Americans if we tie with Ghana and they advance!
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  13. 06-22-14 10:19 PM #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by thefonzo View Post
    So is soccer the only only sport on earth that DOESN'T use H2H as first means of a tie break?

    Gonna be a lot of confused/pissed Americans if we tie with Ghana and they advance!
    USA is very likely to still advance. In a very good situation. Just sucks, because we were less than a minute from already advancing and putting pressure on Germany.
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  14. 06-22-14 10:22 PM #49
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    76% chance America advances according to espn
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  15. 06-22-14 10:24 PM #50
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    Ghana Portugal could be an exciting offensive game...
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  16. 06-22-14 10:35 PM #51
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    I'd take draw or Germany. Should be a lock
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  17. 06-22-14 11:22 PM #52
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    Draw option is no longer being offered on 5dimes
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  18. 06-23-14 12:02 AM #53
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    Under
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  19. 06-23-14 12:03 AM #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiLLx View Post
    Draw option is no longer being offered on 5dimes
    yes it is. probably just went down for a minute
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  20. 06-23-14 12:36 AM #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDog View Post
    USA is very likely to still advance. In a very good situation. Just sucks, because we were less than a minute from already advancing and putting pressure on Germany.
    I wouldn't say "very likely", Ghana wins 2-1, Germany wins 2-0, boom bye bye USA
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  21. 06-23-14 03:34 AM #56
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    Well surely they will want to avoid playing Belgium? Top of group will get to play Algeria - not easy but on paper easier than BelgiuM!
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  22. 06-23-14 03:47 AM #57
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    You're assuming Russia won't beat Algeria? I wouldn't be scared of Algeria, but Russia has a solid team. They're goalie let in a softie against South Korea and they played Belgium neck and neck today. I think they've only given up like 5 goals in their past 14 games or something ridiculous like that.

    They'll give any team a good low scoring battle.

    But yeah, would still rather play them or Algeria then Belgium.
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  23. 06-23-14 03:49 AM #58
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    This is good only for hedging purposes before KO, otherwise I would not let it ride on the draw when the Germans attack
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  24. 06-23-14 05:01 AM #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by thefonzo View Post
    So they go strictly by goal differential and not head to head?
    a) greatest number of points obtained in all the group matches;
    b) goal difference in the group matches;
    c) greatest number of goals scored in the group matches.
    These are the basic rules to determine progression and separate performance.
    However, the rulebook continues:
    If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their ranking will be determined as follows:
    d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the teams concerned;
    e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams concerned;
    f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams concerned;
    g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.
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  25. 06-23-14 05:06 AM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Draw is likely because Germany would rather have USA advance than Portugal or Ghana.
    I don't think you understand how World Cup works. Germany would rather have Ghana advance so they can knock out possible opponents for Germany down the road.
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  26. 06-23-14 05:11 AM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by thefonzo View Post
    So is soccer the only only sport on earth that DOESN'T use H2H as first means of a tie break?

    Gonna be a lot of confused/pissed Americans if we tie with Ghana and they advance!
    They look at H2H in World Cup but between all 3 games the teams played. If Ghana beats Portugal by 2 and US loses by 2 then Ghana is in. That means Ghana didn't lose to a team US lost and beat a team US didn't beat. That's why H2H between 2 teams is meaningless.
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  27. 06-23-14 05:28 AM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    They look at H2H in World Cup but between all 3 games the teams played. If Ghana beats Portugal by 2 and US loses by 2 then Ghana is in. That means Ghana didn't lose to a team US lost and beat a team US didn't beat. That's why H2H between 2 teams is meaningless.
    Ghana just need a 2 goals win and a US loss to qualify. Ghana will then have a +1 GD and US 0.
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  28. 06-23-14 08:11 AM #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I don't think you understand how World Cup works. Germany would rather have Ghana advance so they can knock out possible opponents for Germany down the road.
    The current odds seem to support what I said though. Germany only -123, Draw only +178 at Pinny. Both seem out of whack based on true ability of these teams.
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  29. 06-23-14 09:25 AM #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I don't think you understand how World Cup works. Germany would rather have Ghana advance so they can knock out possible opponents for Germany down the road.
    You're telling me Germany would rather have Ghana advance, so that they will knock out some heavyweights (Argentina, Brazil, Netherlands, etc.) only to have to play a hot, confident team that has beat a bunch of favorites? I think your reasoning there is flawed. And I don't think Ghana has any better chance of pulling upsets in the round of 16 than the US does.

    Even if it would benefit Germany for Ghana to advance, to say that it would affect their strategy or preparation for this game is laughable.

    One thing that a lot of you are overlooking is Germany has not clinched the round of 16 yet. Although unlikely, Ghana and USA could advance from the group if USA were to beat Germany and Ghana beat Portugal by a 3-4 goals. The only scenario that guarantees Germany and USA to advance is a draw. Therefore, I expect a slow game with very few shots of goal or even tackles. Both teams will be playing for the draw. It will be like a game of chicken.
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  30. 06-23-14 09:35 AM #65
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    US team should bring orange slices and Hi C boxes to share with the Germans. They can just have a laugh and errbody moves on happily.
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  31. 06-23-14 03:27 PM #66
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    521 Germany (World Cup) -0.5 (-140) -136. Ov 2.5 (110)

    522 USA (World Cup) +0.5 (+125) +1018. Un 2.5 (-125)

    The ML on Usa is crazy!
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  32. 06-23-14 03:50 PM #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside Magick View Post
    521 Germany (World Cup) -0.5 (-140) -136. Ov 2.5 (110)

    522 USA (World Cup) +0.5 (+125) +1018. Un 2.5 (-125)

    The ML on Usa is crazy!
    You didn't show the Draw
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  33. 06-23-14 04:03 PM #68
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    germany is playing unreal. not looking good for good ol u.s.a, but i hope they prove me wrong.
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  34. 06-23-14 04:08 PM #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    You didn't show the Draw
    Draw is +183 right now
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  35. 06-23-14 04:11 PM #70
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    take Germany at 1.71 this is a gift, youd be dumb not to take it
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