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    Quote Originally Posted by new era View Post
    Getafe sucks....

    Ronaldo is better anyways. He has done more with much less than Messi. Iniesta and Xavi were more crucial to Barcelona's success than Messi.
    spot on. especially Xavi has been absolutely great the past 7-8 years. Guy is the reason Spain won the European Championship in 08 and then again was a key peace in the world cup in 2010 and of course euro 2012. Also all the success with Barcelona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barca12 View Post
    Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying barca is clear favorite here, i just think even with Atletico playing excellent since the beggining of this season Barcelona is still a better team, and both Neymar and Messi will be ready on Saturday, they just havent had any important games in the last few weeks for them to play while not completely healthy, the guys you mentioned in your post are all great players..but what about Xavi, Fabregas...Iniesta is twice as good as any Atletico player
    Atlético isn't about the 'player' they are all about the 'team' and as a unit there is no more hardworking or well functioning in all of La Liga. And no Neymaar and Messi wont start both of them on Saturday when one has been off the pitch for close to 4 weeks and is currently sick and the other was out for over 8 weeks they aren't match trained at all.

    Atlético went to Real Madrid and beat them, last couple of years when Barca tried they've been assfuced.

    And i wouldn't take Iniesta , Xavi or Fabregas over the likes of Koke , Costa , Villa or Gabi

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Ronaldo is better than Messi.
    Good Joke.




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    Quote Originally Posted by easyliving View Post
    spot on. especially Xavi has been absolutely great the past 7-8 years. Guy is the reason Spain won the European Championship in 08 and then again was a key peace in the world cup in 2010 and of course euro 2012. Also all the success with Barcelona.
    forget about iniesta good idea

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    LOL The arguments about ronaldo being better are a joke. Messi is on a different level, it's quite obvious.

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    Lol Messi, Torres is best player in major tourneys when he plays for Spain in that system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by new era View Post
    Getafe sucks....

    Ronaldo is better anyways. He has done more with much less than Messi. Iniesta and Xavi were more crucial to Barcelona's success than Messi.

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    Messi out of the Barca system with Argentina hasn't done anything. Until Messi has a stellar World cup performance he simply can not be compared to legends of the past. Guy is simply playing in a great system and as stated and the Spanish National team with Torres as its forward has done wonders as well. Any above average striker would be able to flourish with Iniesta and Xavi playing behind him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by easyliving View Post
    Messi out of the Barca system with Argentina hasn't done anything. Until Messi has a stellar World cup performance he simply can not be compared to legends of the past. Guy is simply playing in a great system and as stated and the Spanish National team with Torres as its forward has done wonders as well. Any above average striker would be able to flourish with Iniesta and Xavi playing behind him.
    are you american?

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    Nobody saying Messi is bad, just his numbers are inflated and his overall skillset is not up to Ronaldo's.
    both great players but it's that boy from Portugal does it.
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    Swap Kagawa for Ronaldo stroke of genius

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    Messi can only beat up on weak teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Messi can only beat up on weak teams
    Yeah, that's why he's second highest all time scorer in Champions League.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Ronaldo is better than Messi.
    No way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Messi can only beat up on weak teams
    Calm down on Ronaldo bruv

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giz View Post
    Calm down on Ronaldo bruv
    Tuckman

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    Messi better than Ronaldo guys come on

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan View Post
    Tuckman
    Ronaldo is a fanny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giz View Post
    Ronaldo is a fanny
    Ok, Now were getting somewhere... OGD, correct sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan View Post
    Ok, Now were getting somewhere... OGD, correct sir?
    dan wut ya avin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyliving View Post
    Ronaldo dominated the Premier League and won the Champions League with a much less talented team than Messi has with Barcelona. Messi scoring a 2-3 goals every other game against much inferior competition is simply not as impressive as people make it out to be.
    Compare Cristiano with Messi is simply a joke... Messi won 3 Champions, and one vs MANU of Ronaldo when Ronaldo said before the final "I think we are better"

    The most of goals of Ronaldo always vs little teams when the team already win...Messi have the double of assists than Ronaldo in last 4 years, the double of first goals and the half goals by penalty than Ronaldo, your comment is totally a joke...

    Messi is pure soccer, controls, dribbling, assist, definition, Ronaldo can't dribbling the defenses, only shot shot and shot, he shot on goal almost the triple of Messi, Madrid lose a lot of clear chances of goals because he only have in mind his own goal.

    And the big difference is this: Messi never dives (when you find a video like this of Ronaldo, I will say that Ronaldo is in the same level)

    This is Messi, CONTROL OF BALL AND POWER!





    Amazing Messi...Please show me a video like these of Ronaldo

    He never dives but Ronaldo...I can understand Ronaldo, he not have the control of ball that Messi have and need that referee help he, but Ronaldo always behaves as a child, only cry to referee.






    END OF THREAD.

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    Ronaldo woulda had way more baloon dor if FIFA president didn't have a hard on for over rated messi

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    Celtics08: Yeah we get it, you wanna gaggle Messi's coc-k real real bad, but enough with the f'ing fanboy posts you are acting like a 14 year old Justin Bieber fan and so is most of the thread.

    Your ''hero'' was pretty much inivisble tonight, and the only team that should have had a RED CARD was your beloved Barcelona for Marcheranos both feet studs out challenge on Arda Turan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Ronaldo woulda had way more baloon dor if FIFA president didn't have a hard on for over rated messi
    paco every once in a while a little man from argentina wins the world cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    paco every once in a while a little man from argentina wins the world cup.
    Won't be this year, Argentina won't even make the final

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    Quote Originally Posted by paco View Post
    Won't be this year, Argentina won't even make the final
    this is his time. he had to wait just like diego did. he is at the peak of his powers. at least he will get out of the group stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plekz View Post
    Celtics08: Yeah we get it, you wanna gaggle Messi's coc-k real real bad, but enough with the f'ing fanboy posts you are acting like a 14 year old Justin Bieber fan and so is most of the thread.

    Your ''hero'' was pretty much inivisble tonight, and the only team that should have had a RED CARD was your beloved Barcelona for Marcheranos both feet studs out challenge on Arda Turan.
    Imposible talk with hater like you...Messi tonight? Remember that Ronaldo do against Atletico in 90 min and at home...nothing, no one shot on goal! Messi tonight has created some chances of goal, 1 attempt by shot and 1 attempt by head with only 45 min...Before talk please think that you say.

    Are you kidding me with the red card??Not saw that Arda do to Alves???

    Down to sleep hater!

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    celtics08 good posts/videos
    those last videos do show a lot of dives
    thanks for putting that together

    diving is just not cool, there is no way around it

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    This discussion is pointless, Shinji Kagawa is the best player on the planet. Period.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtics08 View Post
    Imposible talk with hater like you...Messi tonight? Remember that Ronaldo do against Atletico in 90 min and at home...nothing, no one shot on goal! Messi tonight has created some chances of goal, 1 attempt by shot and 1 attempt by head with only 45 min...Before talk please think that you say.

    Are you kidding me with the red card??Not saw that Arda do to Alves???

    Down to sleep hater!
    Six commentators in 4 different languages all agreed that was a red card situation for Mascherano it was BOTH studs showing and he dove in. And i don't give a fucc about the ''my dad is stronger then your dad'' bitchfest you faggit fanboys have going on, it's laughable seeing you children carry on.

    Listen homeslice you ain't out there, so quit acting like you are ''apart'' of something cuz you aint outside of buying fanmerch and writing posts on forums.

    Worst challenge of the game was that one, and it was a clear red card violation, now go play in traffic or something it's way past your bedtime.
    Last edited by plekz; 01-11-14 at 09:33 PM.

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    Ronaldo looks just as good in youtube compilations.

    My nan is a top footballer in youtube compilations too.





    Ronaldo a more complete player. A better player international player. Not a UEFA fanboy.

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    Ronaldo only knows how to play direct. Score goals go for goal all the time.

    Not a UEFAlona bitch

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    dude...I'll not wastage more time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtics08 View Post
    dude...I'll not wastage more time...




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