1. 03-26-13 04:25 PM #1
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    USA USA USA | +435 in Mexico...

    Is it worth a shot? They are something like 0-23-1 in Mexico
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  2. 03-26-13 04:26 PM #2
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    Mexico ML
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  3. 03-26-13 04:27 PM #3
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    USA +1. Very best they get out with a draw.
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  4. 03-26-13 04:31 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Sharp View Post
    Is it worth a shot? They are something like 0-23-1 in Mexico
    can someone confirm the 0-23-1? USA+1 looks very solid as well
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  5. 03-26-13 04:32 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by easyliving View Post
    can someone confirm the 0-23-1? USA+1 looks very solid as well

    The USA has never won a match on Mexican soil, holding a lifetime record of 0-23-1. Their last friendly in Mexico resulted in a 2-1 loss on Oct. 17, 1984, in Mexico City.
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  6. 03-26-13 04:34 PM #6
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    +435 bad number
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  7. 03-26-13 04:35 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    The USA has never won a match on Mexican soil, holding a lifetime record of 0-23-1. Their last friendly in Mexico resulted in a 2-1 loss on Oct. 17, 1984, in Mexico City.
    The US won in a friendly this past summer for the first time ever on Mexican soil 1-0
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  8. 03-26-13 04:40 PM #8
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    hard to win while dodging bags of vomit and urine
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  9. 03-26-13 04:43 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Walters View Post
    hard to win while dodging bags of vomit and urine
    True.. Just ask as Costa Rica about poor conditions...

    Mexico ML is the bet
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    you may agree that record is kept to be broken


    US is not in a good form and could not win at all

    but i think both team would play in a more concentrated way which under is pretty good choice
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    I like betting the draw better than USA ML. If USA scores a goal first on the counter, all hell will break loose. God protect any U.S. fan that shows up there tonight.
    Last edited by High3rEl3m3nt; 03-26-13 at 05:30 PM.
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  12. 03-26-13 05:15 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    I like betting the draw better than USA ML. If USA scores a goal first on the counter, all hell will break loose. God protect and U.S. fan that shows up there tonight.
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  13. 03-26-13 05:21 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Walters View Post
    hard to win while dodging bags of vomit and urine
    Their fan base most closely resembles our general population of a super max prison. Throwing human waste is a popular pastime for both.
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  14. 03-26-13 06:38 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsguy04 View Post
    USA +1. Very best they get out with a draw.
    i concur with +1, i can see a draw win unlikely.
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  15. 03-26-13 07:11 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    I like betting the draw better than USA ML. If USA scores a goal first on the counter, all hell will break loose. God protect any U.S. fan that shows up there tonight.
    I'm pretty sure God has other important things to tend to tonight like curing cancer and famine than protect the 2 US fans who decided to go to a 100,000 Mexican filled arena.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I'm pretty sure God has other important things to tend to tonight like curing cancer and famine than protect the 2 US fans who decided to go to a 100,000 Mexican filled arena.
    the dumbfukks hear a little story about unruly fans and they think world war 3 is coming.. fox viewers most likely
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  17. 03-26-13 07:16 PM #17
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    Pavy, don't short change God's abilities. Would be nothing for him to protect those two fans.
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  18. 03-26-13 07:17 PM #18
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    mexico is a 3rd world country
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    Mayan, you obviously have not watched past matches between these two teams in Mexico. It is not pretty. Even when Seattle pulled the upset against Monterrey in Mexico, it was ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    Mayan, you obviously have not watched past matches between these two teams in Mexico. It is not pretty. Even when Seattle pulled the upset against Monterrey in Mexico, it was ugly.
    So does Red Sox vs Yankee games.. What's the difference?? Oh yeah nevermind
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  21. 03-26-13 07:24 PM #21
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    When is the game?
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  22. 03-26-13 07:25 PM #22
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    I know you like to play devil's advocate, but you really should know more about the violent side of soccer in Mexico before you blindly defend its fans.
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  23. 03-26-13 07:27 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    I know you like to play devil's advocate, but you really should know more about the violent side of soccer in Mexico before you blindly defend its fans.
    Yeah I know there's no violence in American Sports.. What was I thinking

    Every country that loves soccer goes crazy over that sport.. Nothing new..
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingillini View Post
    When is the game?

    7:15pacific time
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  25. 03-26-13 07:31 PM #25
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    Fans are violent in the U.S. too, but to insinuate that the level of violence is the same, is naive. I see that you are pivoting the argument away from a U.S. Mexico comparison and are now comparing to the world. Probably a better move.
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    http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0...cars-the-game/

    http://sports.terra.com/soccer/the-b...exican-soccer/

    http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/guadalajara/id/70?cc=5901
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    • Club América has decided to take a stand against the increase of violence that is happening in Mexican soccer stadiums. After two of it's own "barras bravas"(or "fan groups") got into a fight inside of the Neza 86 stadium, Club América has decided to suspend the two "barras" for the upcoming América vs Cruz Azul match on Saturday. Neither of the "barras" will be allowed into the stadium.

      Mexican soccer team directors tried to bring in the passion from Argentine soccer stadiums. They imported and created the "barra brava" in Mexican soccer to get the stadiums more alive. Now these "barras" are the main reason why there is so much violence in the stadiums. This past week alone there were three major incidents of violence; Chivas "barras" attacked bus loads of people from León. Querétaro and Atlas "barras" got into a fight in Querétaro, and the fore mentioned América "barras" fought among themselves.

      Due to the importance in the relegation race the Querétaro vs Atlas match was always going to be a high risk game. And it turned out to be, as Querétaro and Atlas "barras" started fighting outside of the Corregidora stadium.
    • In Guadalajara it was a different story. It wasn't two hooligan "barras" fighting among themselves (Not that, that is right anyways). But the Chivas "barras" attacked 60 buses from León. These buses had entire families, women, children, with the León team bus leading in the front. It is bad enough to have these hooligans causing mayhem among themselves but attacking the innocent who just want to enjoy a soccer game is taking it too far!

      Mexican league authorities have mentioned over and over again that this is of great concern but have done nothing to address it. Club América directors have taken the first step into addressing this problem. By not letting in the "barras" that chant and support all game long in such an important game like the one against fellow Mexico City rivals Cruz Azul; they are sending a message to their "barras" and the other teams in the league.

      The "barras bravas" do make the stadium atmosphere more fun. The stadiums do come to live with their constant signing, chanting, and jumping. This encourages the rest of the stadium to support right along with them, but the cost to benefit ratio of these "barras" does not measure up. All that they do is NOT worth the violence that they bring with them. A standing ovation has to go to Club América for taking this first step. Hopefully the rest of the Liga MX teams as well as the league directors follow the example.
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    Nothing new..

    Soccer fans...

    Get over it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    the dumbfukks hear a little story about unruly fans and they think world war 3 is coming.. fox viewers most likely

    So does Red Sox vs Yankee games.. What's the difference?? Oh yeah nevermind
    You're changing your tune. First, it was we were "Fox viewers" over reacting about a few unruly fans. Then it's no different than what occurs at a Yankees/ Redsox game, and finally it is, well, that's just soccer for you, get over it.

    Mayan, this is what happens when you blindly take a stance that you know nothing about. At least google something like you normally do before playing the part.
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    What? Im around Mexicans that watch soccer every weekend and you think I don't know about the violence... please higher..
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    Trolling?
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  32. 03-26-13 08:17 PM #32
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    Mayan very out of touch with goings-on in Mexico. Mayan has no clue about Mexican soccer.

    I can confirm that Mayan is not fluent in speaking Mexican.
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  33. 03-26-13 08:44 PM #33
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    Opie sukk my dikk suhn.. Btw I speak Salvatrucho very well.
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    Odds Mayan will watch this game on Univision:

    Yes +100000
    No -120000
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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    Odds Mayan will watch this game on Univision:

    Yes +100000
    No -120000
    i don't watch that shit.. My wife will tho.. Shes the Chicana...
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