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    laker do you really believe Italy will beat ze germans? the celtics dominated the lakers too for years before la started getting better talent. so Italy is bound to dominate germany forever? I can assure you that the players are not thinking about history when they're in the game.

    italy has always been better than germany in the past. The last few years, germans have become one of the best teams in the world. not defensively but the best offense for sure.

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    Yes goat I believe it. That's why I picked italy to win the tourney.

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    lakerboy i was with you on this bet but the extra 2 days rest plus going extra time is just going to kill the italians. in a 60 minute game they would have a fighting chance but that last 30 is going to bury them

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    Yes goat I believe it. That's why I picked italy to win the tourney. Reminds me of italy/holland in 2002.

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    are you going to make an extra play on italy in the SF or just ride this one out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Reminds me of italy/holland in 2002.
    You probably mean 2000. Unlikely repeat scenario. Even in retrospect, if you didn't know the score, but did see the game, would you bet on Italy in that match? They crossed midfield twice. lol

    Germany created a lot of chances against a tough Greek defense. Their quick one-touch passing in the final 1/3rd of the field is what puts them ahead of Italy. They're also much sharper in front of goal. Italy's striker(s) lack killer instinct.

    I do like how Italy has grown into the tournament. Good to see four positive teams left, with the negatives sides sent home (mostly Greece and England). The last three games of the tournament should be good with four creative teams.

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    Germany should win

    Lakerman having a good run here

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    Lakerman could be right here. the Italians feed off the passion and grit of their keeper Gigi Buffon. But they don't have a shut down d like they used to and don't have an answer for Ozil.

    Germany seems more determined. If the Italians were so focused they wouldn't have allowed a game they dominated to enter PKs.

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    Goat I don't get your post. It seems you are covering for both sides. NEVER bet against italy when they play germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    Germany created a lot of chances against a tough Greek defense.
    Suuuure, now even Greece has a tough defense.
    You realize this Greek team was utter crap, right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Goat I don't get your post. It seems you are covering for both sides. NEVER bet against italy when they play germany.
    Because I read your post in the other thread and came here and reread your reasoning. I may be underestimating Italy. I was going to hammer Germany to advance tomorrow, but its only going to be a few bills max. I don't want to get buried. I don't believe in historical statistics. What are you saying that the Italians are going to dominate germany forever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Because I read your post in the other thread and came here and reread your reasoning. I may be underestimating Italy. I was going to hammer Germany to advance tomorrow, but its only going to be a few bills max. I don't want to get buried. I don't believe in historical statistics. What are you saying that the Italians are going to dominate germany forever?
    No I am saying keep betting on italy to beat the germs until the germs beat them.

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    At least you got a great price

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    Quote Originally Posted by trannyguy69 View Post
    lakerboy i was with you on this bet but the extra 2 days rest plus going extra time is just going to kill the italians. in a 60 minute game they would have a fighting chance but that last 30 is going to bury them
    lol ... 4 days is more then they need ... 1:1 90min , germans win in overtime

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    I have small Germany in Regulation
    but would not even think about taking them to advance
    Italy has the lucky horn necklace in shootout round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    I have small Germany in Regulation
    but would not even think about taking them to advance
    Italy has the lucky horn necklace in shootout round.
    Germany has not lost a pk shootout since 1976. They have nerves of steel. Italy has to beat them before that to adv. If it goes to a shootout I would take germany everytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hels View Post
    Lakerboy with another stupid play. There is no way Italy will be favoured in the semis or the finals and they are EV odds with England. You would get better odds by betting them to advance each game.

    This is one of the dumbest mistakes a rookie can make.
    Jesus Christ, if lakerboy had picked them to win each game instead of betting them to win eurocup he would have already gotten odds of 6.3 (betfair lines).

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    LakerBoy cannot lose on an emotional level with
    two former Axis lovers matching up today...

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    Can't even hedge out since I have spain not to win -309. Just gonna ride it all out. I think italy will win anyways.

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    Sucks hedging 3 way lines and having to lay juice on advance.

    Spain ml +110 at pinny

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    I think that if anything, today proves that England are better than Germany.

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    I can hedge (didn't take Spain not to win) but won't ... have Italy for Euro +743.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    Suuuure, now even Greece has a tough defense.
    You realize this Greek team was utter crap, right.
    Any team at this level that parks the bus is tough to get through. Germany cut through the Greek defense like a knife through butter. But so did Italy against England.

    This German team is not used to playing from behind. Good game. Two positives teams. Hope Italy wins it all now, because Spain has become very boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSpoon View Post
    I think that if anything, today proves that England are better than Germany.
    LMFAO....What happened in WC2010....idiot!

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    This going to start to look good! I didn't really see the Italians as favorites after the group stage (and even after the quarters), but I do think they can also take Spain right now.

    This could well be a very, very, good call at +810 (!!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven66 View Post
    LMFAO....What happened in WC2010....idiot!
    disallowed England goal changed complexion of the game ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snip3r2006 View Post
    LOOSER
    It takes a real loser not to know how to spell the word.

    Kill yourself you stupid fukkin prikk.

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    italians have no chance today. they will be absolutely gassed. de rossi and pirlo went all out last game after 120 minutes the game before and on 2 days rest they just cant recover. 2-0 spain

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    Quote Originally Posted by hels View Post
    Lakerboy with another stupid play. There is no way Italy will be favoured in the semis or the finals and they are EV odds with England. You would get better odds by betting them to advance each game.

    This is one of the dumbest mistakes a rookie can make.

    even more proof that lakerboy is a clueless moron who can't figure out something as simple as hedging.

    lol

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