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    ELECTRC CARS are nightmares DO NOT go buy one

    PROOF right here wasted time charging lady missed reservation and the trip home made her late

    A missed reservation and long charging times: A woman's 4-day road trip shows the difficulty of taking an electric car cross-country


    Grace Kay




    Wed, June 8, 2022 at 11:25 AM









    An EV charging station.Francis Energy

    • Reporter Rachel Wolfe's 2,000 mile EV road trip turned into a stressful experience.
    • She said in a story for The Wall Street Journal the car spent more time charging than she did sleeping.
    • Wolfe's story highlights an advantage Tesla drivers have over other EV owners.


    Electric cars may not be the best option for a road trip quite yet — unless you want to risk spending hours on end stuck at a charging station.

    Rachel Wolfe, a reporter from The Wall Street Journal, took a Kia EV6 on a four-day road trip and said the car spent more time charging than she did sleeping. During the 2,000 mile trip from New Orleans to Chicago and back, Wolfe said she struggled to find chargers with fast speeds and spent much of the trip waiting for the car to recharge.


    She said that while there appeared to be a multitude of chargers along the route, she quickly discovered that not all chargers are created equally. The trip to Chicago, which was supposed to take about seven and a half hours, ended up taking 12 hours, according to Wolfe. She detailed instances when she waited for as long as 3 hours for a 30-mile charge and moments when her car's battery ticked down at an alarming rate.



    On her way home, Wolfe said her car wasn't able to make it more than 200 miles on a single charge amid a tornado warning, despite an advertised range of up to 310 miles.

    "To save power, we turn off the car's cooling system and the radio, unplug our phones and lower the windshield wipers to the lowest possible setting while still being able to see," Wolfe wrote. "Three miles away from the station, we have one mile of estimated range."
    Insider's Tim Levin previously reported a similar experience during a road trip to Vermont last year when the battery of his Mustang Mach-E plunged rapidly in an environment where he had little access to charging infrastructure. Though, Levin ultimately said the experience did little to dampen his interest in buying an EV.

    In contrast, Wolfe said the experience made her thankful for her gas-powered 2008 Volkswagen Jetta. She said a lack of efficient charging infrastructure caused her and a passenger to miss a dinner reservation and led to a nail-biting return trip that left them with only four hours of sleep in their haste to return home on time.



    Skyrocketing gas prices have made electric cars even more attractive, but Wolfe said the $100 she saved by avoiding the gas pump was paid for in wasted time lingering at charging stations.

    Driving-range anxiety
    has been identified as one of the main issues the US faces when it comes to the electrification of transportation, and Wolfe's story highlights an advantage Tesla owners have over other EV drivers. In a tweet on Sunday, Wolfe noted she believes her experience would have been "easier" in a Tesla.


    While increasing charging infrastructure is a top priority for the Biden Administration, Tesla has a jump on the market, especially when it comes to fast-charging stations.

    Tesla SuperChargers account for about 58% of all available fast-charging stations in the US, according to February data from the Department of Energy. Regular Tesla stations can be used with non-Tesla EVs through a special adapter, but not all supercharging stations are compatible with other electric cars. Tesla has only opened the option in select markets in Europe.


    LIKE I thought they also had gas powered in case of this happening so nmfw do i take a trip up north to casinos or far west like it takes an extra day just to recharge the thing to drive 200 miles OK i can do a 65 miles trip to ac nj or the 95 mile one but certain things around you can wipe out battery energy and stop you dead

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    A lot of my car buddies are telling me that the battery pack in most cars are built to fail at around 4-6 years. The battery pack + installation costs around $12,000. So what in the fukk are we doing here?

    You could have a rebuilt engine and transmission in a gas car cheaper than a battery car.

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    They are a joke. Park an electric car overnight in Canada here during the winter, and the battery will discharge anywhere from 40-60% just parked for the night. These outdoor charging stations are unreliable in sub-zero temperatures. Only stupid people are buying electric cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OTL View Post
    They are a joke. Park an electric car overnight in Canada here during the winter, and the battery will discharge anywhere from 40-60% just parked for the night. These outdoor charging stations are unreliable in sub-zero temperatures. Only stupid people are buying electric cars.
    Automotive manufacturer won't get anywhere with this.... unless they warranty the battery for an extended amount of time. And we all know they won't do it.

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    Aluminum batteries are the key. Just wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Aluminum batteries are the key. Just wait
    I don't know if you're joking or for real.... but if it works... I'm all for it. But I don't think it's right for a consumer to constantly service their vehicle because of a battery.

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    Most people I work with drive Teslas, and never have issues. People un out of charge just like they run out of gas.

    The batteries are fine for people in that market. Most aren't trying to hang on to a Tesla for 7 years anyways. They can afford a new one every few years

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Most people I work with drive Teslas, and never have issues. People un out of charge just like they run out of gas.

    The batteries are fine for people in that market. Most aren't trying to hang on to a Tesla for 7 years anyways. They can afford a new one every few years
    How about the shlubs that have to buy Chevys, Fords, Hyundais....those Fuquers will give problems and the manufacturers will take advantage of the consumer

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    A woman rented an unnamed electric car with a degraded battery. That sucks for her, but that's also a far cry from all "electric cars are nightmares."

    I paid the most I've ever paid for gas yesterday. Does that mean all ICE cars are nightmares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Most people I work with drive Teslas, and never have issues. People un out of charge just like they run out of gas.

    The batteries are fine for people in that market. Most aren't trying to hang on to a Tesla for 7 years anyways. They can afford a new one every few years
    But the true results aren't in on longevity and wear and tear on a battery powered vehicle. There's nothing wrong with a person holding onto an older vehicle that they originally bought brand new.

    I also know an attorney that purposely buys Used Vehicles... he told me his formula and why he does it. I thought it was odd... but he told me he refuses to buy brand new. He said it's the dumbest thing anyone could ever do. Again, coming from an attorney's mouth.

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    well as seen they are not worth it so what gas prices are gigh right now they will go back down but i can drive any where for as many miles as i want without worryying the freaking baterries go poof and what ne said cost like $12000.00 to replace them ...

    MY batterry cost me only $95 the alt is free for life from pepboys paid mechanic that works on his own $150 total out of pocket cost $245

    if pep boys did it that would cost over $610.00

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    This was a ridiculous idea for a story: Let's use a vehicle with a range of 200 miles and try to drive 2,000.

    Let's be honest. Most of us use our cars for trips of less than 50 miles, and if you have a half a brain, you plug in your charger before you go to bed and the vehicle is ready to go in the morning. The concept is fabulous when you're now paying $60 every time you need to fill your gas-powered vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    But the true results aren't in on longevity and wear and tear on a battery powered vehicle. There's nothing wrong with a person holding onto an older vehicle that they originally bought brand new.

    I also know an attorney that purposely buys Used Vehicles... he told me his formula and why he does it. I thought it was odd... but he told me he refuses to buy brand new. He said it's the dumbest thing anyone could ever do. Again, coming from an attorney's mouth.
    Agree. I drive an 2003 z71.

    New cars are for show, status. As soon as you leave the lot depreciation sets in big. Very few vehicles hold their value well enough to be considered an exception.

    With that said, my wife drives a 2022 Toyota Highlander

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Agree. I drive an 2003 z71.

    New cars are for show, status. As soon as you leave the lot depreciation sets in big. Very few vehicles hold their value well enough to be considered an exception.

    With that said, my wife drives a 2022 Toyota Highlander
    Well I think all women should be safe... so you're doing the right thing in allowing the wife to drive a new vehicle. New is always safe and dependable.

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    To drive a Gas F150 20 miles uses about 1 gallon $4.70 at my gas station.

    The F150 Lightning driving 20 miles .65 cents if I charge it from 10pm to 6am. $1.30 from 6am to 10pm. My electric rates.

    These are driving highway miles at about 60 miles an hour.

    Less maintenance on electric vehicle.

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    Once again, its all part of the "Great Reset" plan. Digital currency, self-driving cars, electric cars.......its all part of Agenda 2030 or whatever. You'll own nothing and eat insects and be happy......I think the happy part will be some drug (daily vaccine) injected into you by then. Gas prices go up (on purpose again gee ya think?) which makes people want those garbage EV's!

    Oh, you're just a conspiracy theorist. No, I'm a conspiracy researcher. Thanks though!





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    Quote Originally Posted by OTL View Post
    They are a joke. Park an electric car overnight in Canada here during the winter, and the battery will discharge anywhere from 40-60% just parked for the night. These outdoor charging stations are unreliable in sub-zero temperatures. Only stupid people are buying electric cars.
    Please refrain from this racist term! It is preferred from this point forward you refer to them as the following:
    1. Fukktardians
    2. Fukktardians from Planet Fukktard
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    Thank you!

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