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    some good value in the NHL tonight and FLA and CAR resting players

    Lots of their stars are sitting this one out as they did last night.

    Gustav Forsling
    (Defenseman)
    | Florida Panthers
    Forsling (rest) will not play Thursday in Ottawa.



    MacKenzie Weegar
    (Left Defenseman)
    | Florida Panthers
    Weegar (rest) will not play Thursday in Ottawa.



    Claude Giroux
    (Left Wing)
    | Florida Panthers
    Barkov (rest) will not play Thursday in Ottawa.

    Jonathan Huberdeau
    (Left Wing)
    | Florida Panthers
    Huberdeau (rest) will not play Thursday in Ottawa.


    Jaccob Slavin
    (Right Defenseman)
    | Carolina Hurricanes
    Slavin (rest) is not expected to play on Thursday.

    The Hurricanes have clinched the Metropolitan Division, so Slavin, Jordan Staal and Andrei Svechnikov are all expected to sit out on Thursday. Ethan Bear will draw into the lineup to replace Slavin.


    Jordan Staal
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    | Carolina Hurricanes
    Staal (rest) is not expected to play on Thursday.
    The Hurricanes have clinched the Metropolitan Division, so Staal, Andrei Svechnikov and Jaccob Slavin are all expected to sit out on Thursday. Jesperi Kotkaniemi will return to the lineup to replace Staal.



    Andrei Svechnikov
    (Left Wing)
    | Carolina Hurricanes
    Svechnikov (rest) is not expected to play on Thursday.
    The Hurricanes have clinched the Metropolitan Division, so Svechnikov, Jordan Staal and Jaccob Slavin are all expected to sit out on Thursday. Steven Lorentz will replace Svechnikov in the lineup.
    https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/hockey-.../line-changes/



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    BUFFALO +252
    OTTAWA +144

    worth a shot



    Yesterday
    ARIZONA +380 win
    CHICAGO +178 win
    SEATTLE +129

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    Caribbean Ocean!! HABAHAHABHAHAHABBHA

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    Good stuff GL

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    I’m taking Under 1.5 goals 1p +145 in Devils/Canes. Not sure why as I have hit “Yes” goal in the first ten minutes and cashed many times over the last couple months.

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    Bump.

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    NHL just all chalk. I didn't make one NHL play in last 5 months.

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    Maybe the games were rigged and Florida and Carolina didn't legitimately win just like Biden didn't win and stole the election from Trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Maybe the games were rigged and Florida and Carolina didn't legitimately win just like Biden didn't win and stole the election from Trump?
    I heard Ottawa and the Devils mailed it in

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I heard Ottawa and the Devils mailed it in

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    NHL just all chalk. I didn't make one NHL play in last 5 months.
    Been brutal

    Finally on a run last couple of days.

    Finally.

    Here's the units for every favorite bought at the close...


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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    NHL just all chalk. I didn't make one NHL play in last 5 months.
    Have to agree with you here. NHL has been a chalk lovers dream this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I heard Ottawa and the Devils mailed it in

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    NHL just all chalk. I didn't make one NHL play in last 5 months.
    All sports are primarily chalk these days bro open your eyes man…. Look at MLB today lol idk what’s going on something just weird ever since the us markets opened up…. Almost all favorites won today mlb all lines were like mostly-140 and up lol

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    White Sox and San Diego only non chalk lines and everyone was on reds today lol…. Idk shits weird lately

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    All sports are primarily chalk these days bro open your eyes man…. Look at MLB today lol idk what’s going on something just weird ever since the us markets opened up…. Almost all favorites won today mlb all lines were like mostly-140 and up lol
    There can be cycles and we've seen effects from both us markets widening and rebounds from COVID, believe it or not. And it doesn't always equal chalk but yeah, here are someMLB stats...

    Betting the same 1 unit on every MLB favorite this season would net about +12 units with about a 4% ROI.

    Doing that same for every dog this season would net a loss of about -42 units with an ROI of about -14.8%.

    The favorite win rate this season is 62.94%, which would equate to a no vig line of -169.84.

    The average price of all the favorites at the close so far this season is -158.84, implying a 61.36% probability.

    We can break it down further, but you can see a general market that is running hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    There can be cycles and we've seen effects from both us markets widening and rebounds from COVID, believe it or not. And it doesn't always equal chalk but yeah, here are someMLB stats...

    Betting the same 1 unit on every MLB favorite this season would net about +12 units with about a 4% ROI.

    Doing that same for every dog this season would net a loss of about -42 units with an ROI of about -14.8%.

    The favorite win rate this season is 62.94%, which would equate to a no vig line of -169.84.

    The average price of all the favorites at the close so far this season is -158.84, implying a 61.36% probability.

    We can break it down further, but you can see a general market that is running hot.
    Noticed the change after Covid to be honest

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    White Sox and San Diego only non chalk lines and everyone was on reds today lol…. Idk shits weird lately
    It's a long season, a lot will happen, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    Noticed the change after Covid to be honest
    Yup.

    And the COVID year was particularly odd one, expecially in NCAAF.

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    Truth is I've posted The Broader Contrarian Fund since back posting but specifically say no backbone plays. I had no NCAAB contrarian plays through conference play.

    I am in the process of tweaking and research to gain a better understanding of what is happening. All my gauges are still valid, but when it comes to what should be better market tracking Funds, I think there is room for improvement.

    I hear you piler, you aren't the only that noticed. Things really are more volatile now, the better is getting taken for more of a ride and thus, because they are not disciplined in bet sizes, are getting owned by the market.

    Look at the favorite chart above.

    You think favorite bettors kept their units at 1 unit in all that success? They got used, even in a rising seas raise all ships environment. I guarantee it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Truth is I've posted The Broader Contrarian Fund since back posting but specifically say no backbone plays. I had no NCAAB contrarian plays through conference play.

    I am in the process of tweaking and research to gain a better understanding of what is happening. All my gauges are still valid, but when it comes to what should be better market tracking Funds, I think there is room for improvement.

    I hear you piler, you aren't the only that noticed. Things really are more volatile now, the better is getting taken for more of a ride and thus, because they are not disciplined in bet sizes, are getting owned by the market.

    Look at the favorite chart above.

    You think favorite bettors kept their units at 1 unit in all that success? They got used, even in a rising seas raise all ships environment. I guarantee it.
    Makes definite sense I just feel adjustments need to be made glad I’m not the only one to notice a difference in the market

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    Quote Originally Posted by pilebuck13 View Post
    White Sox and San Diego only non chalk lines and everyone was on reds today lol…. Idk shits weird lately
    Lately? I would even make the argument that chalk has been a money maker in ALL sports over the past year. Maybe two if we go back to prime Covid days. There is a trend I’m sure but will it turn around is the question?

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    Tradition just has not hold true, in my opinion. Favorites have been destroying “the markets” in all sports for the past year or two. I’m not saying go and bet -200 favorites each game but it’s been leaning that way for a long time now. Do we adjust and add chalk to models now? I don’t know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Been brutal

    Finally on a run last couple of days.

    Finally.

    Here's the units for every favorite bought at the close...

    Those units got to be a lot more for the opener. I’ve seen the Florida Panthers go from -310 to -450 at least a dozen times this year & that’s just one team. The openers could even be 4X the units on your tracking.
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    backups are pros

    One game there is never an edge
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    backups are pros

    One game there is never an edge
    I thought the only thing that matters is the numbers? Now you are saying that players have an impact in the outcome of a game? How come?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Yup.

    And the COVID year was particularly odd one, expecially in NCAAF.
    Covid really hit dogs hard.

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    Covid fuked everything up

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    WTF? I make a thread with a few posted NHL plays and go 3-0 and get maybe 2 replies. One with a and the other about basketball.

    I make a thread and go 0-2 in NHL and it turns into another Trump thread well on it's way to 2 million views
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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    WTF? I make a thread with a few posted NHL plays and go 3-0 and get maybe 2 replies. One with a and the other about basketball.

    I make a thread and go 0-2 in NHL and it turns into another Trump thread well on it's way to 2 million views
    just some miscellaneous players talk right quick …

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    DwightShrute “our DOLPHINS might be a nice & exciting watch this year if things workout.” I might be willing to wager on them to win the Superbowl just because f u c k the bookie he owes me this one. 2016 & 2019 have been my best years last 6 only because of huge parlay winnings or futures. It’s 2022 & the tend is my friend with my history. Throw 50 on it come on lol I’ll throw .5 unit on it just to keep my interest on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    DwightShrute “our DOLPHINS might be a nice & exciting watch this year if things workout.” I might be willing to wager on them to win the Superbowl just because f u c k the bookie he owes me this one. 2016 & 2019 have been my best years last 6 only because of huge parlay winnings or futures. It’s 2022 & the tend is my friend with my history. Throw 50 on it come on lol I’ll throw .5 unit on it just to keep my interest on it.

    One unit = 1,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    One unit = 1,000
    can't wait to see how the Fish do this year. Hill and Waddle should open the offense for so much more. Our TE's ae solid as well and so is our D.

    TUA is the wild card.
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    I'm taking a whack of NHL dogs tonight. Same senario as last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Huntertz View Post
    I'm taking a whack of NHL dogs tonight. Same senario as last night.
    me too

    look at all the players sitting out. https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/hockey-player-news/
    Panthers won the president's trophy so they are gonna have a let down tonight right?

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    Florida cliched #1 overall and get home ice for in the finals when they play the Flames. Carey Price between the pipes tonight at home. Panthers starting their 3rd string goalie. Habs 5-3
    MONTREAL +160

    JT Miller needs 2 points for 100 on the season. Look for him to get it in a shootout in Edmonton. 5-4 Vancouver?
    TOTAL o6 (VANCOUVER vrs EDMONTON)

    Lindholm, Bergeron, Marchant, Hall, Pastrnak, Haula, Grzelcyk and McAvoy all sitting for the Bruins in Toronto. Leafs 3-
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    Leafs -125
    Leafs
    -1½ +207

    Dallas needs a win and a Smashville loss to avoid playing the Avs in round one. Preds don't play for 2 hours after the Stars' game begins. Stars 4-2. Preds 5-2
    DALLAS -1½ +105
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