[BAUS]

That should be $13,200. WTF?

Thanks a lot. Now we will never know what funny answer math guru Doug would have “calculated”.

BAUS

[ace7550]

Thanks a lot. Now we will never know what funny answer math guru Doug would have “calculated”.

BAUS

Oops sorry

[Fishhead]

Thanks a lot. Now we will never know what funny answer math guru Doug would have “calculated”.

BAUS

Can't wait

[BAUS]

I’m showing this Tigers bet from the summer to illustrate that their betslip is messed up.

Intentional or not, sure, that’s debatable.

There is no debate about it being messed up.

BAUS

[BuckyOne]

The it's as you click theory makes sense. Why I believe it is because it happened to me once on a small bet during live betting. Thought I was dawdling too long to hit the submit so I was only pissed at myself.

You would think they could hold the line for 9 seconds? something / when the bet window is created.

Their software has had trouble just staying up / customer service is non existent / not exactly bubbling over with trust in this book! Get even without getting screwed again if that is possible.

[Doug tushyterror]

Here’s a math test for Doug...what is wrong with this picture?






BAUS

That should clearly be 13,200 but if you're initial explanation was as obvious as your bet slip I would've gotten it. You mean to tell me if you email that slip to BM they wouldn't rectify it? Pretty sure they would. That $150 they're stiffing you on ain't gonna exactly make or break them. Great bet by the way!

[TheMoneyShot]

Interesting thread. I was with Bookmaker 2 years ago. Last 5 wagers I made... 4 of them the juice would reset and wager wasn't accepted.

This was back with their old layout... in which you'd hit refresh lines.... then quickly make your wager and hit accept. There's no possible way within 3-4 seconds after a refresh... the line would change and your wager wouldn't be accepted. It was one of the reasons why I left them.

Good to know they are still doing this sh#$.

[KVB]

The it's as you click theory makes sense. Why I believe it is because it happened to me once on a small bet during live betting. Thought I was dawdling too long to hit the submit so I was only pissed at myself.

You would think they could hold the line for 9 seconds? something / when the bet window is created.

Their software has had trouble just staying up / customer service is non existent / not exactly bubbling over with trust in this book! Get even without getting screwed again if that is possible.

It's not a theory. It's what's happening.

The fix is to interrupt the exchange the moment a line changes. It should be impossible to submit in that situation.

[Roger T. Bannon]

Roger if your not happy at a book play somewhere else
Bookmaker A+++

These guys have to play there zero choice and we know this

Moderators know how to read people and threads as we are highly trained

jj the hold on the BTP contest is not near what it has been. We can't afford to lose any accounts.

[biggie12]

A former database contractor for SBR.
Yes.
They kicked me out years ago.

BAUS

i think they may be under new ownership i'm not certain though. been hitting alot of arbs on their side havent been limited at all.

[Fishhead]

Doug bring us a side of stuffing for Thanksgiving, you're not bringing anything else to the table here yet.

Thanks, and MERRY CHRISTMAS

[BAUS]

That should clearly be 13,200 but if you're initial explanation was as obvious as your bet slip I would've gotten it. You mean to tell me if you email that slip to BM they wouldn't rectify it? Pretty sure they would. That $150 they're stiffing you on ain't gonna exactly make or break them. Great bet by the way!

Yes it was rectified. But it illustrates that there are problems with their betslip and they are not fixing it.

On Sunday I clicked -102 and was given -114. That’s a problem.

BAUS

[KVB]

Yes it was rectified. But it illustrates that there are problems with their betslip and they are not fixing it.

On Sunday I clicked -102 and was given -114. That’s a problem.

BAUS

I don't agree. On Sunday you selected -102, but right before you submitted -102, it switched it to -114. From my knowledge and experience with this problem you submitted a -114. It changed, BEFORE you hit submit.

It's important semantics, and I agree it is a problem. That betslip should be frozen to the bettor upon change, this push towards one click submitting could be leaving holes in the software.

[BAUS]

I don't agree. On Sunday you selected -102, but right before you submitted -102, it switched it to -114. From my knowledge and experience with this problem you submitted a -114. It changed, BEFORE you hit submit.

It's important semantics, and I agree it is a problem. That betslip should be frozen to the bettor upon change, this push towards one click submitting could be leaving holes in the software.

I would say it changed “while” I clicked submit.

BAUS

[KVB]

I would say it changed “while” I clicked submit.

BAUS

Yeah, I'm on your side here, it's exactly what happened. It should not happen expecially the way BM moves lines and prices right before game time.

One solid poster calls it the BM spaz. Also, because it's possible to get a better or worse line doesn't make it ok.

[jjgold]

It’s too close to call therefore I will rule bookmaker the winner although SBR’s administrators have alerted Bookmaker on a potential minor issue

[KVB]

It’s too close to call therefore I will rule bookmaker the winner although SBR’s administrators have alerted Bookmaker on a potential minor issue

You can't have it both ways. You can't say BM "wins" and then say there is a minor problem that SBR needed to be alerted to.

We can all agree, Bm is solid, but this is an issue that has trapped many a bettor, and it's only as minor as the dollar amount you bet.

You think this is minor????...

Bet Chiefs -7.5 at -102.

After I click submit it moved to -114. Then accepted the bet.

They just screwed me over for $4800 in juice...

Granted, even BAUS agrees it happened as he clicked but what's minor to some is not to a business.

[big joe 1212]

It’s too close to call therefore I will rule bookmaker the winner although SBR’s administrators have alerted Bookmaker on a potential minor issue

They were alerted months ago about this problem you nitwit

[BAUS]

For Michael Jack Corbin:

$45,600 @-114
vs
$40,800 @-102

Equals $4800 in rape


BAUS

[jjgold]

Guys I’m the judge of all this there is no Jury I am it


Hopefully what will come of this bookmaker might alter some technical glitches if there are any which is still in question, let’s make no mistake about it this is an A+ sportsbook

[ace7550]

BM definitely A+. But they need to freeze the betslip if the odds change. This should not be that difficult to fix.

[deeppckts]

That Tigers ticket is just more proof their betslip is fukked.

If bookmaker stole $300 from Doug tushyterror, he would be going apeshit and everyone would be on his side. Stiff book! Pay the player!
Instead they steal more than $4000 from a player behind a 'tech glitch' and people are telling him to be more careful or denying it even happened.

TECH "glitches" and BTC shenanigans are the newest forms of sportsbook stiffjobs and SBR should be pushing back hard on this.

5Dimes --> steal any possible BTC upside while your deposit is pending.
Pinnacle --> give you bad BTC price, if you complain, they tell you to 'contact BTC'.
BOL --> Have stale lines, if you try to bet the good stale line they stop you. If you try to bet the bad line [which is worse than their actual current odds], they let you screw yourself.
BM --> ticket theft. Change price on you while you hit submit, or while your bet is in the Spinny Circle of doom.

And our judge and jury is jjgold, who has never in 20 years made a deposit or wager more than $50 offshore

[ace7550]

I still would like to see some visual proof of the BM "glitch." I have been playing there for years. Never wagered 40k but I've wagered well over 1k. I've never had this happen.

[deeppckts]

Try betting halftimes. You take some line +110 and it moves to +108, your bet will just spin and spin. Then eventually if line stays low your bet is canceled. But, if line jumps up to +112 let's say, they then accept your wager at +110.

These issues won't happen to you when lines are just sitting there. If you bet a thanksgiving game right now you'll be fine. It's when odds are moving rapidly.

[jjgold]

Ace
I don’t see any proof this could just be sour Gamblers that lost a bet


We know how gamblers are they can’t be trusted and they want everything their way all the time

The suits at bookmaker are some of the most upstanding people you’ll ever meet

[deeppckts]

Pinnacle's bet slip had this all figured out 15 years ago or even more. But somehow other books can't figure it out in 2020. Hmm!

[deeppckts]

Ace
I don’t see any proof this could just be sour Gamblers that lost a bet


We know how gamblers are they can’t be trusted and they want everything their way all the time

The suits at bookmaker are some of the most upstanding people you’ll ever meet

He posted about this before the game even began.

[Optional]

I still would like to see some visual proof of the BM "glitch." I have been playing there for years. Never wagered 40k but I've wagered well over 1k. I've never had this happen.

Bigjoe's report can be trusted.

But BAUS insisted his problem is not just what BigJoe experienced. He is claiming something far more nefarious. Waiting to see if he can come up with his promised video to back up what he claimed about odds changing after he submitted before deciding what to do about this.

[ronald]

That Tigers ticket is just more proof their betslip is fukked.

If bookmaker stole $300 from Doug tushyterror, he would be going apeshit and everyone would be on his side. Stiff book! Pay the player!
Instead they steal more than $4000 from a player behind a 'tech glitch' and people are telling him to be more careful or denying it even happened.

TECH "glitches" and BTC shenanigans are the newest forms of sportsbook stiffjobs and SBR should be pushing back hard on this.

5Dimes --> steal any possible BTC upside while your deposit is pending.
Pinnacle --> give you bad BTC price, if you complain, they tell you to 'contact BTC'.
BOL --> Have stale lines, if you try to bet the good stale line they stop you. If you try to bet the bad line [which is worse than their actual current odds], they let you screw yourself.
BM --> ticket theft. Change price on you while you hit submit, or while your bet is in the Spinny Circle of doom.

And our judge and jury is jjgold, who has never in 20 years made a deposit or wager more than $50 offshore

Let's not forget the BETCRIS 3.5% tax on any payouts deemed "non-recreational"

The highest BTC payout fees in the business, if I'm not mistaken. Most books don't charge anything.

[KVB]

Try betting halftimes. You take some line +110 and it moves to +108, your bet will just spin and spin. Then eventually if line stays low your bet is canceled. But, if line jumps up to +112 let's say, they then accept your wager at +110.

These issues won't happen to you when lines are just sitting there. If you bet a thanksgiving game right now you'll be fine. It's when odds are moving rapidly.

And they are no stranger to rapidly moving lines...lol.

[SimpleJack]

http://https://sportshandle.com/pro-...hill-cheating/

[SimpleJack]

https://www.gambling911.com/William-...Game-Bets.html

[Roscoe_Word]

https://www.gambling911.com/William-...Game-Bets.html

The Spin/Hold in queue delay process.

It has an official name.

[BAUS]

Bigjoe's report can be trusted.

But BAUS insisted his problem is not just what BigJoe experienced. He is claiming something far more nefarious. Waiting to see if he can come up with his promised video to back up what he claimed about odds changing after he submitted before deciding what to do about this.

You’re implying that I’m telling lies here? Sure, I just took the worst possible price available on purpose 🥴.

I’ll have a video soon enough.

BAUS

[KVB]

https://www.gambling911.com/William-...Game-Bets.html

The Spin/Hold in queue delay process.

It has an official name.

Interesting article, but I think we all knew this happens, at least anybody who's ever bet live at the WH counter.

Then there's this...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Believe it or not, there is nothing in Nevada&#39;s gaming regulations explicitly prohibiting a sportsbook from delaying &amp; preferentially accepting/rejecting live bets based on what transpired during that delay.<br><br>We �� need �� better �� regulations ��<a href="https://t.co/Y0sxEBMmRh">https://t.co/Y0sxEBMmRh</a></p>&mdash; Rufus (@RufusPeabody) <a href="https://twitter.com/RufusPeabody/status/1318299087410761728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>