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    How Trump wins second term in Electoral College regardless of "election results".

    The U.S. Constitution reads:

    "Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector."
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii

    Supreme Court upholds Legislatures, not Popular Election results, drive selection of electors, who can be required to uphold the will of the LEGISLATURE, not the popular election:
    High Court Opens Door to Electoral College Subversion
    regarding "faithless" electors: "In its ruling, the high court said that states have the right to require those electors to vote in the manner mandated by their legislatures."
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...n_143687.html#!


    The Election That Could Break America (very anti-Trump article but worth reading)

    December 8 is known as the “safe harbor” deadline for appointing the 538 men and women who make up the Electoral College. The electors do not meet until six days later, December 14, but each state must appoint them by the safe-harbor date to guarantee that Congress will accept their credentials. The controlling statute says that if “any controversy or contest” remains after that, then Congress will decide which electors, if any, may cast the state’s ballots for president.

    We are accustomed to choosing electors by popular vote, but nothing in the Constitution says it has to be that way. Article II provides that each state shall appoint electors “in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.” Since the late 19th century, every state has ceded the decision to its voters. Even so, the Supreme Court affirmed in Bush v. Gore that a state “can take back the power to appoint electors.” How and when a state might do so has not been tested for well over a century.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...oncede/616424/

    Republicans have full control of the legislative branch in 30 states.

    1) Massive Election Fraud in Democratic cities
    2) Observers barred - an ILLEGAL ACTION by Dems
    3) Ballot viabilities not scrutinized by Legislatures (who are appointed to run the Federal election for each state - NOT Democrat-appointed municipal clerks.
    4) Recounts and Lawsuits
    5) State Legislatures are a GOP majority - but not every state has to use this power.
    The states with controversial "results" - are in GOP legislature hands. They CAN appoint their own Electors!
    PA, WI, MI, GA, AZ, NC can all vote for Trump. Constitutionally and confirmed by SCOTUS.
    6) If the controversy extends to the U.S. Congress, the HOUSE votes ONE VOTE PER STATE - Trump wins because GOP has a majority of states in Congress.

    Donald J Trump is going to have a second term.

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    Very interesting. I just don't think the individual republican legislators will have the stones to do that. It would be nice to see the Pennsylvania legislators to that because they have been getting the bent over ram job with no reach around the entire year by the State's supreme court. If you look at the overwhelming republican support around the state, it would be interesting to see the Dems heads explode if this actually happened.

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    The person you support lost. Move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slurry Pumper View Post
    Very interesting. I just don't think the individual republican legislators will have the stones to do that. It would be nice to see the Pennsylvania legislators to that because they have been getting the bent over ram job with no reach around the entire year by the State's supreme court. If you look at the overwhelming republican support around the state, it would be interesting to see the Dems heads explode if this actually happened.
    They don't all have to, but just one or two of the questionable states, it depends.
    So this will go to the Electoral College where PA, WI, MI, GA, AZ, etc can vote for Trump and he wins.

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    The problem is Trump lost all of those states.

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    Right but the state legislatures won’t do it. They want to keep their easy jobs forever, 90 percent of them.

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    its over guy LOL
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    But is all over now for the criminal and liar !! Now lets take him from White House straight to jail house !!
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    It won’t happen we’re going to see a disaster in the country unless biden gets away from the radical politicians And terrible socialism they want if he does that he’ll be OK if not the Republicans are going to take a race in the midterm


    He’s going to have to say were coming down on criminal that riot and the police are going to be strong then the Democrats will never lose

    Anything less the parties finished as we saw the unbelievable strong Republican wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    The U.S. Constitution reads:

    "Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector."
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleii

    Supreme Court upholds Legislatures, not Popular Election results, drive selection of electors, who can be required to uphold the will of the LEGISLATURE, not the popular election:
    High Court Opens Door to Electoral College Subversion
    regarding "faithless" electors: "In its ruling, the high court said that states have the right to require those electors to vote in the manner mandated by their legislatures."
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...n_143687.html#!


    The Election That Could Break America (very anti-Trump article but worth reading)

    December 8 is known as the “safe harbor” deadline for appointing the 538 men and women who make up the Electoral College. The electors do not meet until six days later, December 14, but each state must appoint them by the safe-harbor date to guarantee that Congress will accept their credentials. The controlling statute says that if “any controversy or contest” remains after that, then Congress will decide which electors, if any, may cast the state’s ballots for president.

    We are accustomed to choosing electors by popular vote, but nothing in the Constitution says it has to be that way. Article II provides that each state shall appoint electors “in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.” Since the late 19th century, every state has ceded the decision to its voters. Even so, the Supreme Court affirmed in Bush v. Gore that a state “can take back the power to appoint electors.” How and when a state might do so has not been tested for well over a century.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...oncede/616424/

    Republicans have full control of the legislative branch in 30 states.

    1) Massive Election Fraud in Democratic cities
    2) Observers barred - an ILLEGAL ACTION by Dems
    3) Ballot viabilities not scrutinized by Legislatures (who are appointed to run the Federal election for each state - NOT Democrat-appointed municipal clerks.
    4) Recounts and Lawsuits
    5) State Legislatures are a GOP majority - but not every state has to use this power.
    The states with controversial "results" - are in GOP legislature hands. They CAN appoint their own Electors!
    PA, WI, MI, GA, AZ, NC can all vote for Trump. Constitutionally and confirmed by SCOTUS.
    6) If the controversy extends to the U.S. Congress, the HOUSE votes ONE VOTE PER STATE - Trump wins because GOP has a majority of states in Congress.

    Donald J Trump is going to have a second term.
    Snowy wisdom shining through.........

    awesome post......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    It won’t happen we’re going to see a disaster in the country unless biden gets away from the radical politicians And terrible socialism they want if he does that he’ll be OK if not the Republicans are going to take a race in the midterm


    He’s going to have to say were coming down on criminal that riot and the police are going to be strong then the Democrats will never lose

    Anything less the parties finished as we saw the unbelievable strong Republican wins
    Radical Republicans have been spreading misinformation about this election, slobbing on Trump's knob, and undermining the democratic process.
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    BIDEN taking over the OVAL office very much up in the air, without question

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    Lest anyone say these electors would be "faithless" - NOPE.

    State Legislators are the only Consitutional assmembly that can thoroughly inspect every single ballot before approving the popular result. They direct the election apparatus AND the Electoral College. NOT city officials. NOT governors.

    "The Constitution and federal law are silent on the matter, but some states have passed laws that require their electors to vote as pledged. In July, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of these laws.

    "The Constitution’s text and the nation’s history both support allowing a state to enforce an elector’s pledge to support his party’s nominee – and the state voters’ choice – for president," Associate Justice Elena Kagan wrote in an opinion.

    During the last oral argument of the court's term in May, justices on both sides of the ideological aisle expressed concern that electors could be bribed, particularly by the losing party in a close election.

    "The Supreme Court made it clear that the elector is not there to vote his or her conscience. The elector is there to vote how the state dictates," said Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of the University of California-Berkeley Law School. "Most states now forbid faithless electors."

    ��https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...r-BB1aHfu4

    What this means:
    1) Electors appointed by Legislatures are NOT "faithless". ("In its ruling, the high court said that states have the right to require those electors to vote in the manner mandated by their legislatures.") ��https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...43687.html#

    2) SCOTUS only ruled that States "may", "allow", electors to be bound to the popular vote - not "must", "require".

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    Ain't gonna happen, but can you imagine if Hillary had tried this. Deep State shite to the nines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonal View Post
    Radical Republicans have been spreading misinformation about this election, slobbing on Trump's knob, and undermining the democratic process.
    Since 1980.

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    Decision Desk HQ projects that
    @JoeBiden
    has won Pennsylvania and its 20 electoral college votes for a total of 273. Joe Biden has been elected the 46th President of the United States of America. Race called at 11-06 08:50 AM EST

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    The Biden campaign responds to reports that Trump has no plans to concede: “As we said on July 19th, the American people will decide this election. And the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    The Biden campaign responds to reports that Trump has no plans to concede: “As we said on July 19th, the American people will decide this election. And the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House.”
    Law & Order, NO Knock warrant.

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    Do u people understand that under this lying PIGS [ trump family ] , the USA become a laughing stock to the whole world . Our friends dont want to know as anymore and even Bangladesh is laughing at us . Thats what this lying criminal family did to this BEAUTIFUL nation !! Thanks our LOVING LORD GOD that this animals , criminals and lairs be punished [ whole trump family ] !!

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    Election has been declared over

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    The fix was in as soon as the mail in ballots came into play. Sad but true. Now we will see how the Biden Cartel governs with a totally galvanized 2 sided country. Half think Biden is a bigger crook than Hillary, and the other half think the current President is a total crook. Only difference is the current President is smart enough to not have any evidence will the new one can't keep the evidence from showing up from time to time. Of course the media is on his side which is a big plus, but over time probably after he loses his mind and dies next July the information will come out. Probably in Trump's giant war and peace sized book will all of the things that he declassified but the deep state never released. He'll make 100 mil easy, then after 4 years off he'll be back to stab the dems with their own shyt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Election has been declared over
    When are you leaving PA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Jerry View Post
    But is all over now for the criminal and liar !! Now lets take him from White House straight to jail house !!
    Jerry they're all criminals at that level. How are all these politicians millionaires living in mansions with their salaries?

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    Please visit the URL: https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index
    Search for the following entry:
    First Name: BLANCHE
    Last Name: BROOKS
    Birth Year: 1904
    Zip Code: 48507
    Search for each month (January, February ... December) and see if there's a valid entry.

    I tried some months - and Entered Birth Month JUNE


    Flint Township, Genesee County


    Yes, you are registered!

    She is 116 years old (dead for decades) and has a live ballot.

    same again:

    First Name: CORA
    Last Name: ALLEN
    Birth Year: 1904
    Zip Code: 48235

    Birth Month to enter: April

    City Of Detroit, Wayne County


    Yes, you are registered!

    https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    Jerry they're all criminals at that level. How are all these politicians millionaires living in mansions with their salaries?
    true and I agree with u !! They all need to go and served ONLY one 6 years term for all . President one time only for 6 years - senator one time only for 6 years and house member one time for 6 years only !! - TERM LIMITS !! TERM LIMITS !! TERM LIMITS !!

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    None of this shit forever politician anymore !!

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    Trump lost. Next!
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    Openly talking about this on Newsmax and OANN now.

    -- Electors don't even have to vote FOR or AGAINST a candidate.

    --Can abstain and refuse to cast for for EITHER> denying a winner.

    --Reason - Lack of Confidence in Popular Vote being legitimate.

    Result - House decides election - TRUMP WINS. 1 vote per state.

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    jj u should move to fla it's red

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Openly talking about this on Newsmax and OANN now.

    -- Electors don't even have to vote FOR or AGAINST a candidate.

    --Can abstain and refuse to cast for for EITHER> denying a winner.

    --Reason - Lack of Confidence in Popular Vote being legitimate.

    Result - House decides election - TRUMP WINS. 1 vote per state.
    Gotta love these retards flying the American flag everywhere then act like fukken dictators

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Where did this come from Snowball? If that's true it's fukcing crazy. 5.5 from the historical average really is impossible.

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    Breitbart is saying it was a big turnout but not that big:
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/04/wisconsin-vote-turnout-indicates-7-in-10-voted/

    I don't even know which news outlets, if any, are reliable at all anymore though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace7550 View Post
    Where did this come from Snowball? If that's true it's fukcing crazy. 5.5 from the historical average really is impossible.
    It's not true. Fake Chart created by somebody who is very bad at math.

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