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    Quote Originally Posted by hanco21 View Post
    Come on, have a little sense here. The guy has multiple gun conviction charges and he is going to his car after wrestling with officers. What do you think gonna happen,

    All this could be avoided if blacks just stop resisting. Liberals just amaze me sometimes, no logical thinking.
    George Floyd was handcuffed and pinned to the ground. Murdered, but all the right does is concentrate on his record. THAT HAS NO GODDAMN RELEVANCE WHATSOVER. Cops are not supposed to execute people in the street and anyone thinking logically could see that?

    penetrate....even fat ass Limbaugh and Hannity acknowledged it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    ...I’m sure you’ll just make shit up.
    You want some more you fukkhead?

    Huh?

    You have zero credibility in here Mac.

    Zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanco21 View Post
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Sp8EIHu1A
    I know you don’t care but you want more insight including that important second angle. Yes this guy is conservative but he says some good chit.
    I can not justify the perps actions. He was in the wrong. I do not agree with the guy on the video on certain points until more is known. He mentioned Blake’s arrest record and wrongfully assumed one was a gun possession. That was not a gun because it would be another charge. It was an object like a knife or bottle. Then he assumes like you have that Blake was reaching for a gun in the car. Until the police show proof that there was a gun in the car, that is false. If he had a gun, that would have been mentioned a thousand times and even if he had a gun let’s say in his glove compartment that would not prove motive that he went in the car to use it. All hearsay.

    looking at the videos again, I did not see a big scuffle. He seemed to get up easily and calmly walk to his car. He wasn’t running, didn’t seem to be in fear for his life. He certainly wasn’t in a rush. The police were like 5 steps behind him. They then ran after him. Very weird scene to me with people all over the place. Nobody seemed to be in fear to me until shots fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred The Hammer View Post
    George Floyd was handcuffed and pinned to the ground. Murdered, but all the right does is concentrate on his record. THAT HAS NO GODDAMN RELEVANCE WHATSOVER. Cops are not supposed to execute people in the street and anyone thinking logically could see that?

    penetrate....even fat ass Limbaugh and Hannity acknowledged it
    resisted...high on drugs. Do a little more research, not saying what the officer was right but you can argue it from both sides. I would bet the officer will get off. But yes if g.floyd didn’t resist he would be alive today unless of course he would do something else stupid which is highly likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    You want some more you fukkhead?

    Huh?

    You have zero credibility in here Mac.

    Zero.
    I'd say more than you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred The Hammer View Post
    George Floyd was handcuffed and pinned to the ground. Murdered, but all the right does is concentrate on his record. THAT HAS NO GODDAMN RELEVANCE WHATSOVER. Cops are not supposed to execute people in the street and anyone thinking logically could see that?

    penetrate....even fat ass Limbaugh and Hannity acknowledged it
    I do agree here. I've called for different training often, with many posts saying how bad things are.

    But I'm tired of the one sided discussion here. I'm tired of calling for police change when not a single damn person is calling for people of all races and creed to stop disobeying and stop fighting the cops.

    Doc Rivers talked about how white fathers don't have to have a discussion about the dangers of being pulled over with there sons.

    What a bunch of bullshit.

    Every father, no matter the race, should be having a talk with his kids about the dangers of running from drawn cops and just doing your own thing while they are yelling and screaming for you to just stop. Unfortuantely it's especially true for blacks in many areas, but not everywhere.

    That's a conversation all fathers have to have.

    I'm tired of having a heart for the systemically stacked communities only to have them spit in the face of those who try.

    It needs to be a two way, multiple front conversation.

    Everything else is racial division anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    I'd say more than you....
    You are trolling here and the whole Forum knows it.

    You can play racist guy too?

    Unreal the racism here at SBR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    I can not justify the perps actions. He was in the wrong. I do not agree with the guy on the video on certain points until more is known. He mentioned Blake’s arrest record and wrongfully assumed one was a gun possession. That was not a gun because it would be another charge. It was an object like a knife or bottle. Then he assumes like you have that Blake was reaching for a gun in the car. Until the police show proof that there was a gun in the car, that is false. If he had a gun, that would have been mentioned a thousand times and even if he had a gun let’s say in his glove compartment that would not prove motive that he went in the car to use it. All hearsay.

    looking at the videos again, I did not see a big scuffle. He seemed to get up easily and calmly walk to his car. He wasn’t running, didn’t seem to be in fear for his life. He certainly wasn’t in a rush. The police were like 5 steps behind him. They then ran after him. Very weird scene to me with people all over the place. Nobody seemed to be in fear to me until shots fired.
    Cheers. Facts or facts. Everyone thinks differently. Peace out

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanco21 View Post
    resisted...high on drugs. Do a little more research, not saying what the officer was right but you can argue it from both sides. I would bet the officer will get off. But yes if g.floyd didn’t resist he would be alive today unless of course he would do something else stupid which is highly likely.
    Did anyone see how he resisted? I never did? I know he was high. So was Robert Downey when he wandered into somebody else's house and passed out. If he was black he would've been riddled with gunfire

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    Can we agree the cop shooting him in the back 7 times was a puss move? That is all we are saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred The Hammer View Post
    Did anyone see how he resisted? I never did? I know he was high. So was Robert Downey when he wandered into somebody else's house and passed out. If he was black he would've been riddled with gunfire
    yes, if you search for it you will find it. Media doesn’t release that angle for the obvious reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I do agree here. I've called for different training often, with many posts saying how bad things are.

    But I'm tired of the one sided discussion here. I'm tired of calling for police change when not a single damn person is calling for people of all races and creed to stop disobeying and stop fighting the cops.

    Doc Rivers talked about how white fathers don't have to have a discussion about the dangers of being pulled over with there sons.

    What a bunch of bullshit.

    Every father, no matter the race, should be having a talk with his kids about the dangers of running from drawn cops and just doing your own thing while they are yelling and screaming for you to just stop. Unfortuantely it's especially true for blacks in many areas, but not everywhere.

    That's a conversation all fathers have to have.

    I'm tired of having a heart for the systemically stacked communities only to have them spit in the face of those who try.

    It needs to be a two way, multiple front conversation.

    Everything else is racial division anymore.
    Jay Williams talked about black on black crime on ESPN or NBA channel this morning...whatever it was. I spun around on my chair. I couldn't believe it. Broken homes and violence. 75% don't have a dad in the picture. Its the exact same shit as the Elvis song "In The Ghetto" and that was 50 years ago. Meanwhile we have Burmese immigrants pouring into southside Indy. Alot of people complain, but they don't shoot each other. They work their asses off and they obey the laws. Is that racist to point that out? We have no real open discussions and thats the problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Don't remember huh?

    Sure I'll make shit up, huh?

    You are a fukkin prick.

    Here are just a few links in the thread where you acted like a douche and I was nothing but cordial.

    Turns out you don't want to be educated at all, you just want to be an asshole.

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post27246442

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post27246361

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post27246317

    You are low information and trying to make me out to be a liar when trying to help you is a pretty douchebage move Mac.

    What the Fukk are you talking about? You jabbering on and on about a player while we were posting about the SNF game? I don’t even want to revisit that old shit but there we go again you trying to play detective and calling out an athlete without all the facts. You spent more time playing Colombo while we had games to bet. So you now bring that shit up 3 years later? WTF.

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    If all anyone wants to see in that video is the obvious wrong and excessive force that looks to be used by the cops and can't see anything else wrong with what happened, can't offer any other suggestions to any other characters in the video than the police; then I can only pray for black men in these communities.

    It appears they have no other hope than prayer as the community and nation has obviously given up on them.

    It's irresponsible and sad to say the least, not to mention the many lessons that will never get learned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    What the Fukk are you talking about? You jabbering on and on about a player while we were posting about the SNF game? I don’t even want to revisit that old shit but there we go again you trying to play detective and calling out an athlete without all the facts. You spent more time playing Colombo while we had games to bet. So you now bring that shit up 3 years later? WTF.
    lol I typed in Bennet and my own handle, found those in 2 seconds.

    You asked for the facts, I didn't need to go Colombo.

    You got the facts.

    I don't make shit up at SBR..

    Not ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    lol I typed in Bennet and my own handle, found those in 2 seconds.

    You asked for the facts, I didn't need to go Colombo.

    You got the facts.

    I don't make shit up at SBR..

    Not ever.
    My memory is very sketchy on what happened 3 weeks ago let alone 3 years ago.
    What was your point? You believe Bennet made shit up, I said it was plausible that he was telling the truth. You came up with so called facts, I called you on your facts. I could have been wrong and you totally right but what is your point? That I have zero credibility because of a post 3 years ago? I’m confused?

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    Bottom line. Just do what you can to treat others with respect. Try to be a positive in the world instead of a negative. Thats all we can do.

    I live next door to the nicest black family. The guy has been in the Army for 12 years or something. Like 4 tours to Iraq/Afghanistan. He just got back from Rangers school. He has 2 kids (1 baby) and his sister also lives there with her 2 kids. He's their father too basically.

    He's gone like half the year usually or more and his wife thought enough of me (even though I've barely spoken to her) to knock on my door last summer and ask if I could cut their grass. She was 8 months pregnant. I said no problem. I'm no hero, but I try to help more then I hurt. Thats all we can do. Try to see both sides when you can and have some empathy.

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    This has to be reposted from that thread...

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/56/e3/5a/5...-paint-art.jpg


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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    Can we agree the cop shooting him in the back 7 times was a puss move? That is all we are saying.
    What if he shot him once in the head and blew his brains all over the dashboard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    This has to be reposted from that thread...

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/56/e3/5a/5...-paint-art.jpg

    Treeeemendous!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Treeeemendous!!

    Wow! I think some of the most beautiful women are ones like her where you study them and try to figure out what race they are exactly? Atleast I do. Olivia Munn is one like that! Half white half Chinese and looks almost Native American to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    This has to be reposted from that thread...

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/56/e3/5a/5...-paint-art.jpg

    Thread is heating up.


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    I also want to apologize, to everyone in this thread but especially Mac.

    My nasty name calling posting session is over now.

    I just want to see justice in a lot of ways and ignoring some of the behavior of these young black victims seems to me will doom us to getting repeat results while the cops are always tested.

    Community awareness means being aware of the dangers in your community, even if systemic, and knowing when to fight which battles.

    Fighting the battle at the point of the police baton, tazer, or gun just never turn out well, usually to the fault of EVERYONE on the scene, but I acknowledge it's not always everyone's fault.

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    KVB, yesterday in my thread you called me a bitch and a piece of shit.

    Still waiting for my apology.

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    im no fan of police as i feel they abuse their power too often. however in this case it looks like to me they just had to make a tough decision without time to weigh all of the options properly. most ppl are bad at their job and they dont have to worry about being killed. its silly to expect cops to never make questionable decisions under stressful conditions.

    with floyd the cops were under no threat so that was clearly criminal assault to me. with the blake shooting i dont really see clear wrong doing by the cops. i think a reasonable person could believe blake was going for a gun when they knew he had an arrest warrant out and they had already wrestled and tasered him and he refused to stop.

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    Cant we all just get along?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I also want to apologize, to everyone in this thread but especially Mac.My nasty name calling posting session is over now.I just want to see justice in a lot of ways and ignoring some of the behavior of these young black victims seems to me will doom us to getting repeat results while the cops are always tested.Community awareness means being aware of the dangers in your community, even if systemic, and knowing when to fight which battles.Fighting the battle at the point of the police baton, tazer, or gun just never turn out well, usually to the fault of EVERYONE on the scene, but I acknowledge it's not always everyone's fault.
    I apologize to you as well KVB. We’re just voicing our opinions and I respect yours. I usually agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fried cheese View Post
    im no fan of police as i feel they abuse their power too often. however in this case it looks like to me they just had to make a tough decision without time to weigh all of the options properly. most ppl are bad at their job and they dont have to worry about being killed. its silly to expect cops to never make questionable decisions under stressful conditions.

    with floyd the cops were under no threat so that was clearly criminal assault to me. with the blake shooting i dont really see clear wrong doing by the cops. i think a reasonable person could believe blake was going for a gun when they knew he had an arrest warrant out and they had already wrestled and tasered him and he refused to stop.
    I don’t have all the facts on this case. I didn’t see much of a scuffle in the videos. I’ve heard a lot of stories on this. That Blake was trying to break up a girl fight. That the police was responding to a domestic dispute. Did the police know Blake when they got to the scene? Does he have a record of gun violence? Did the police believe he had a record of gun violence? Did they take him? Why/how did he get up so easily? Why was he walking slow and calmly to his car? Why we’re the kids in the car? Why we’re so many other people on the scene? Did the police have control of the scene? There are a lot of unknowns that feel like it’s being hidden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    This has to be reposted from that thread...

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/56/e3/5a/5...-paint-art.jpg

    Now that’s something we can agree upon,

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    If you fellas are proud of this type of behavior, then you're a big part of the problem...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktY73L32NYY


    Now maybe you fellas don't realize that this woman knows that she can call the police, lie on a black person, and have absolutely no worries whatsoever.

    So fukk your excuses and fukk your opinions....

    THIS IS THE REAL SH*t THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON IN THE WORLD....


    Your opinion is like your a$$hole... It stinks..

    The facts are the facts.. period..

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    The younger generation is actually getting it much better than many of you old fukks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Coffee View Post
    If you fellas are proud of this type of behavior, then you're a big part of the problem...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktY73L32NYY


    Now maybe you fellas don't realize that this woman knows that she can call the police, lie on a black person, and have absolutely no worries whatsoever.

    So fukk your excuses and fukk your opinions....

    THIS IS THE REAL SH*t THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON IN THE WORLD....


    Your opinion is like your a$$hole... It stinks..

    The facts are the facts.. period..
    For one post like that I could show you a hundred more your way. Get some creme in that coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    I don’t have all the facts on this case. I didn’t see much of a scuffle in the videos. I’ve heard a lot of stories on this. That Blake was trying to break up a girl fight. That the police was responding to a domestic dispute. Did the police know Blake when they got to the scene? Does he have a record of gun violence? Did the police believe he had a record of gun violence? Did they take him? Why/how did he get up so easily? Why was he walking slow and calmly to his car? Why we’re the kids in the car? Why we’re so many other people on the scene? Did the police have control of the scene? There are a lot of unknowns that feel like it’s being hidden?
    you can see them wrestling a little on the other video but there are a lot of ppl in the way and its not a high definition video. the 911 call was reported as one of the women calling and saying he was trespassing and stole her keys and refused to give them back. i read that they knew there was a warrant for his arrest when they got there. i read he was previously charged with illegally concealing a gun and pointing at ppl in a bar while drunk and also fighting with police but i dont know if the police knew it at the time.

    im not sure how he got up so easily since its kind of hard to make out in the video but i think someone posted here a blown up picture of him with what looks like a sharp object in his hands and the police were yelling about a knife. so maybe they had him on the ground and he pulled out a knife so they backed off and tasered him but he just got up and walked around the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fried cheese View Post
    you can see them wrestling a little on the other video but there are a lot of ppl in the way and its not a high definition video. the 911 call was reported as one of the women calling and saying he was trespassing and stole her keys and refused to give them back. i read that they knew there was a warrant for his arrest when they got there. i read he was previously charged with illegally concealing a gun and pointing at ppl in a bar while drunk and also fighting with police but i dont know if the police knew it at the time.

    im not sure how he got up so easily since its kind of hard to make out in the video but i think someone posted here a blown up picture of him with what looks like a sharp object in his hands and the police were yelling about a knife. so maybe they had him on the ground and he pulled out a knife so they backed off and tasered him but he just got up and walked around the car.
    Hmm... All things considered, sounds a lot like a recipe for getting lit up by law enforcement.

    If you value your life, you wouldn't walk into a lion's den. Likewise, if Jacob Blake valued his life, he wouldn't have ticked off every single box to trigger armed officers into survival mode. Any way you slice it, this trash human made his own bed and he can lie in it.

    I'll never feign sympathy for a complete and utter idiot just because it's the trendy thing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Coffee View Post
    If you fellas are proud of this type of behavior, then you're a big part of the problem...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktY73L32NYY


    Now maybe you fellas don't realize that this woman knows that she can call the police, lie on a black person, and have absolutely no worries whatsoever.

    So fukk your excuses and fukk your opinions....

    THIS IS THE REAL SH*t THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON IN THE WORLD....


    Your opinion is like your a$$hole... It stinks..

    The facts are the facts.. period..
    Some insane women calls police and makes up a lie that someone hit her and those are your “facts” and “proof”? I’m white I’ve had women do this shit to me too and have heard similar stories from my white friends. You are basing your global view on a crazy lady. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

    Talk to any police officer and crazy women exist in all races. This is female gender privilege. Not race privilege

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