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    Cashed out last night and received this morning. Only problem was Bitcoin crashed and by the time I cashed out from my wallet I had lost a few hundred

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    You received your payout in a day? I’m sorry sir, but I don’t believe that. You would be the only person in the history of that book, to receive your money that quickly. That goes for all skins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitz030808 View Post
    You received your payout in a day? I’m sorry sir, but I don’t believe that. You would be the only person in the history of that book, to receive your money that quickly. That goes for all skins.
    Doubtful. I requested $5k from Carbon last night and didn't receive it (thankfully?). Not sure if I'd rather have gotten it and taken a 30% loss because of bitcoin or have to sweat out whether I'm gonna get paid by them with no sports to bet on.

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    I’ve gotten multiple payouts from that family of books and they ALWAYS take 5-9 days. I’m content with it as long as I get paid.

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    My bad I mistook the title for sportsbetting.ag that's who I got the payout from

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevex View Post
    I’ve gotten multiple payouts from that family of books and they ALWAYS take 5-9 days. I’m content with it as long as I get paid.
    I'm not gonna lie. If I had the kind of money that I do on this family of books on Bookmaker or Betonline I wouldn't sweat it one bit. Nobody is bigger on these books than me, mostly because of their awesome bonuses.

    With no games running for possibly 60+ days. I'm gonna be sweating the next two weeks just to see if I can draw down my balances on here. I ended up playing about $40,000 worth of bets in the casino last night just to get my rollover done with. I was very fortunate to come out ahead too.

    This pandemic is causing everything to go sour.

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    No worries. It’s a common mistake. Without sports to bet on, I’m sure we’ll see the timeframe for payouts be even longer. No real point to leave a big balance in there. Well, unless you play poker/casino.

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    Books with casinos and their own poker platform I would be slightly less worried about. Also, even if there are no sports to bet on a lot of accounts will still have active rollovers they can't complete which will prevent a complete run on the bank. Like with anything offshore proceed with caution but I wouldn't be in total panic mode. You'll probably see a slow down in payments as theses smaller books try to ride this out and maybe some go under, but this is obviously uncharted territory so nobody really knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KS1986 View Post
    Books with casinos and their own poker platform I would be slightly less worried about. Also, even if there are no sports to bet on a lot of accounts will still have active rollovers they can't complete which will prevent a complete run on the bank. Like with anything offshore proceed with caution but I wouldn't be in total panic mode. You'll probably see a slow down in payments as theses smaller books try to ride this out and maybe some go under, but this is obviously uncharted territory so nobody really knows.
    Exactly. We don't know how well funded some of these other books are. I'd have to imagine the casino revenue of these sites will go up by a lot as more people are looking for entertainment, gamble, etc. Too many degens can't go without any action. Let's hope they mop the floors on the slots to get everyone paid promptly.

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    Does anyone happen to know if Sportsbook.ag or any of its clones are accepting new clients?

    Thanks very much!

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    I don't think so. Have not been for a while now.

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    No they are not at this time..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I don't think so. Have not been for a while now.
    Thanks, Optional. You rock.

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    I opened account there but i noticed they look kinda same as betonline.ag. Also i read that Betonline is mother company for sportsbetting.ag? I wanted to ask which one is better if im gonna hold there like 10k? I dont want to withdraw all the time because then the money becomes taxable and thats why would rather hold money on bookies, around 10% max of my bankroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIS View Post
    I opened account there but i noticed they look kinda same as betonline.ag. Also i read that Betonline is mother company for sportsbetting.ag? I wanted to ask which one is better if im gonna hold there like 10k? I dont want to withdraw all the time because then the money becomes taxable and thats why would rather hold money on bookies, around 10% max of my bankroll.
    This thread was for sportsbook.ag not sportsbetting.ag. I don't think sportsbook.ag is taking new players. If you did sign up for sportsbetting.ag they are basically a clone of betonline.ag. Holding money on either site would be the same thing. As far as I know they both run the same promos and have the same lines and offerings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkoncz15 View Post
    Sportsbook.ag hasn’t worked all day anybody have any idea why not?
    Huh,you want to request a payout and wait 2-3 weeks? You should be thankful it's not working...


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    Quote Originally Posted by KS1986 View Post
    This thread was for sportsbook.ag not sportsbetting.ag. I don't think sportsbook.ag is taking new players. If you did sign up for sportsbetting.ag they are basically a clone of betonline.ag. Holding money on either site would be the same thing. As far as I know they both run the same promos and have the same lines and offerings.
    My apologies. Was late here and misread it while searching on forum. Yes i did meant sportsbetting.ag indeed. Thank you for reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIS View Post
    I opened account there but i noticed they look kinda same as betonline.ag. Also i read that Betonline is mother company for sportsbetting.ag? I wanted to ask which one is better if im gonna hold there like 10k? I dont want to withdraw all the time because then the money becomes taxable and thats why would rather hold money on bookies, around 10% max of my bankroll.
    Sportsbetting leases BOL's software, so it's an exact clone bet-wise, but BOL doesn't own Sportsbetting, which has a completely different ownership group. Heh, I know that sounds pedantic, but the distinction can be important because when the same ownership group owns multiple sites, sometimes they get very grouchy about people with accounts at more than one (for example, 5dimes / Vietbet / Betanysports / Sportbet.) But since Sportsbetting and BOL are differently owned, rock on.

    On the keeping $10k in either book, that's absolutely nothing to sweat. BOL's a monster and Sing's well capitalized, so you've got nothing to worry about.

    Oh, one other thing: BOL and Sing are both currently running a promo where you'll receive 20% of your cash balances in free plays when any major sport starts back up, provided only that you sign up and that you don't withdraw before then. If you haven't signed up yet, check with live chat, maybe you still can. Their free play rules are pretty crap these days, but if you're leaving the cash there anyway....

    EDIT: FWIW, it's actually pretty easy to sidestep the tax implication problem for sportsbook withdrawals simply by withdrawing in cryptocurrency. Since crypto transactions and most wallets are completely anonymous the transaction can't be linked to your name unless you want to volunteer that information to the govt yourself, which you don't.

    If you're new to crypto, pm me and I'd be happy to walk you through the basics. Good luck!
    Last edited by MeanPeopleSuck; 04-24-20 at 06:29 AM.

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    id go to 5dimes or bovada.. fade BOL and absolutley fade sportsbook.ag

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanPeopleSuck View Post
    Sportsbetting leases BOL's software, so it's an exact clone bet-wise, but BOL doesn't own Sportsbetting, which has a completely different ownership group. Heh, I know that sounds pedantic, but the distinction can be important because when the same ownership group owns multiple sites, sometimes they get very grouchy about people with accounts at more than one (for example, 5dimes / Vietbet / Betanysports / Sportbet.) But since Sportsbetting and BOL are differently owned, rock on.


    On the keeping $10k in either book, that's absolutely nothing to sweat. BOL's a monster and Sing's well capitalized, so you've got nothing to worry about.

    Oh, one other thing: BOL and Sing are both currently running a promo where you'll receive 20% of your cash balances in free plays when any major sport starts back up, provided only that you sign up and that you don't withdraw before then. If you haven't signed up yet, check with live chat, maybe you still can. Their free play rules are pretty crap these days, but if you're leaving the cash there anyway....

    EDIT: FWIW, it's actually pretty easy to sidestep the tax implication problem for sportsbook withdrawals simply by withdrawing in cryptocurrency. Since crypto transactions and most wallets are completely anonymous the transaction can't be linked to your name unless you want to volunteer that information to the govt yourself, which you don't.

    If you're new to crypto, pm me and I'd be happy to walk you through the basics. Good luck!
    Thanks mate for such information! I was a bit worried tbh but everything is more clear now. Thanks again. Regarding with tax issue then unfortunately i have to pay tax on btc earnings also. Yes can sidestep it by spending bitcoin via some crypto card but cant buy anything big nor anything investable. But im still interested of your info so PMed u

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    id go to 5dimes or bovada.. fade BOL and absolutley fade sportsbook.ag
    why so mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanPeopleSuck View Post
    Sportsbetting leases BOL's software, so it's an exact clone bet-wise, but BOL doesn't own Sportsbetting, which has a completely different ownership group. Heh, I know that sounds pedantic, but the distinction can be important because when the same ownership group owns multiple sites, sometimes they get very grouchy about people with accounts at more than one (for example, 5dimes / Vietbet / Betanysports / Sportbet.) But since Sportsbetting and BOL are differently owned, rock on.
    What evidence do you have that this is true? Because everything I've seen points to BOL, SB, and LV being the same ownership. Every single department I've dealt with at these sites are the same people.

    Edit: These links support my understanding:

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/spo...tting-ag-5445/

    https://sportsbettingsites.org/news/...tting-ag-1740/
    Last edited by DontTailMe; 04-24-20 at 02:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    What evidence do you have that this is true? Because everything I've seen points to BOL, SB, and LV being the same ownership. Every single department I've dealt with at these sites are the same people.

    Edit: These links support my understanding:

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/spo...tting-ag-5445/

    https://sportsbettingsites.org/news/...tting-ag-1740/
    Plus, if you go to BOL's affiliate site, https://www.commissionkings.ag/, you'll see all their brands connected to the same affiliate management platform: betonline, sportsbetting, wildcasino and tigergaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    What evidence do you have that this is true? Because everything I've seen points to BOL, SB, and LV being the same ownership. Every single department I've dealt with at these sites are the same people.

    Edit: These links support my understanding:

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/spo...tting-ag-5445/

    https://sportsbettingsites.org/news/...tting-ag-1740/
    Oh, my bad. My understanding was some of Sportsbetting's ownership group from its Sportsbook.com / Jazette days were still involved, but maybe I was wrong.

    I think my belief was reinforced by the unusual fact that they don't mind players having accounts at more than one of their sportsbooks.

    Wait a sec, ARE we still in agreement that management doesn't mind players having accounts at more than one of BOL, Sportsbetting and LV? That's definitely my belief based on years of having pretty active accounts at those books without a problem, but given my F-up above, I could definitely use some confirmation.

    OK, I found a thread here that seems to agree accounts at multiple books are OK: https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...etting-ag.html

    Does it seem like solid reasoning that Optional would've posted to that thread to correct it if the prevailing belief had been wrong?

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    You can definitely hold accounts at Betonline, LowVig and Sportsbetting.

    I also assume that they have different ownership structures. But do not know for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    You can definitely hold accounts at Betonline, LowVig and Sportsbetting.

    I also assume that they have different ownership structures. But do not know for sure.
    Thanks, Opti. You rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    You can definitely hold accounts at Betonline, LowVig and Sportsbetting.

    I also assume that they have different ownership structures. But do not know for sure.
    I've spoken to their management about this. Pretty sure they are same ownership. You CAN have accounts at all 3 books. However, you are NOT supposed to use those accounts to exceed betting limits on individual wagers. If they discover you doing this on a routine basis, they will place restrictions on your account (which is kind of dumb - either allow accounts at all 3 books or don't). Two examples of such restrictions are: (a) lower limits, and (b) betting "time outs" (about 60 seconds) between wagers. I have seen this happen to people. Note: They may not bother with the restrictions if your're a -EV bettor.

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    lowvig looks like a BOL clone but it says reduced juice...So are their lines better than sportbetting and BOL? (identical platforms and lines)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DISTROYA View Post
    lowvig looks like a BOL clone but it says reduced juice...So are their lines better than sportbetting and BOL? (identical platforms and lines)
    Yes. Everything is identical except reduced juice on certain leagues. In exchange for that lower price, you're giving up all bonuses offered by sisters BOL and SB, and customer service limited to email channel (no chat or phone).
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    I see thanks DTM

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    Once the topic moved to the betonline etc i also have a question. I have accounts on 3 of them and i noticed that on sportsbook.ag i have around 10% limits of what i would have on betonline. Is this normal or i have some limits applied? I noticed both use ASI so their odds are updated the same way, only limits are different(im talking about esports)

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    I wouldn’t play @ Sportsbook.ag with their money (free play) they have my money 18k. I was directly stiffed because I used two other sister sites & took small bonuses @ all 3. Bill Dozer represented me to no avail fuk them. This was in the early 2000’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIS View Post
    Once the topic moved to the betonline etc i also have a question. I have accounts on 3 of them and i noticed that on sportsbook.ag i have around 10% limits of what i would have on betonline. Is this normal or i have some limits applied? I noticed both use ASI so their odds are updated the same way, only limits are different(im talking about esports)
    BetOnline has no relation to Sportsbook.ag, so I would not expect my limits at these books to be the same. Normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    BetOnline has no relation to Sportsbook.ag, so I would not expect my limits at these books to be the same. Normal.
    Thanks! Then i guess will move funds to the betonline instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CIS View Post
    Thanks! Then i guess will move funds to the betonline instead.
    Yeah I grade BOL an A- & Sportsbook D+ From experience SBR got it right with those two.
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