1. #1
    THE_LOCKSMITH
    THE_LOCKSMITH's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-25-08
    Posts: 7,237
    Betpoints: 5218

    UFC 242: Khabib vs. Poirier (September 07, 2019)


    Pay-per-view 2 pm ET
    Khabib Nurmagomedov vs Dustin Poirier (for lightweight title)
    Edson Barboza vs Paul Felder
    Islam Makhachev vs Davi Ramos
    Shamil Abdurakhimov vs Curtis Blaydes
    Diego Ferreira vs Mairbek Taisumov

    FX 12:00 pm ET
    Khakid Taha vs Bruno Silva
    Don Madge vs Fares Ziam
    Ottman Azaitar vs Teemu Pacckalen
    Liana Jojua vs Sarah Moras

    ESPN+ 10:15 am ET
    Belal Muhammad vs Takashi Sato
    Muslim Salikhov vs Nordine Taleb
    Omari Akhmedov vs Zak Cummings
    Joanne Calderwood vs Andrea Lee
    Lerone Murphy vs Zubaira Tukhugov



    Points Awarded:

    HurlSweatPants gave THE_LOCKSMITH 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.

    bjpenn85 gave THE_LOCKSMITH 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.

    UncleChael gave THE_LOCKSMITH 100 Betpoint(s) for this post.

    PaperTrail07 gave THE_LOCKSMITH 1 Betpoint(s) for this post.

    Baraldsson gave THE_LOCKSMITH 1 Betpoint(s) for this post.

    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: Thrilla

  2. #2
    Unwritten Law
    Unwritten Law's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-31-13
    Posts: 2,532
    Betpoints: -1617

    Khabib -336
    Takashi Sato +269

  3. #3
    UncleChael
    Tell 'em UncleChael sent ya
    UncleChael's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-30-13
    Posts: 3,979
    Betpoints: 1125

    Can't wait!!! Khabib bleeds like everyone else.

  4. #4
    fudy213
    fudy213's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-12-11
    Posts: 158
    Betpoints: 2019

    I like Islam Machechev at -220.

  5. #5
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Quote Originally Posted by fudy213 View Post
    I like Islam Machechev at -220.
    I might like him as well. I can remember i was very surprised he couldnt finish Austin Hubbard. Who is that guy anyway? And now he meet makachev, but if its a pure strikeing contest is Islam that much better? What do i get at -220 in a striking war? overall he should win, in clinch, better wrestling etc, but worst case scenario in a pure strikeing contest is it worth to pay -220 for Islam? Thats what am thinking....what do you think?

  6. #6
    U2.5
    U2.5's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-21-14
    Posts: 1,953
    Betpoints: 3223

    the eagle will soar. Too bad those odds aren't better. Hopefully the props will be decent

  7. #7
    Pinoy-T-X
    Pinoy-T-X's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-28-12
    Posts: 2,176
    Betpoints: 21609

    Wo do you guys like on Felder vs Barboza?

  8. #8
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinoy-T-X View Post
    Wo do you guys like on Felder vs Barboza?
    barboza, but felder is less stupid now, then he was. Before he had fighter iq of 0. I think hes smarter and overall better. But he still doesnt have the skills of Barboza, he still isnt as good. But compared to their first fight, Felder is slightly better.

    In their first fight who ended 29-28, Barboza was quite the bit better the 2 round he won, im not sure i agree with the judges awarding felder with that one round either. This time around i expect Felder to actually win one round but barboza will win two rounds.
    Points Awarded:

    Pinoy-T-X gave bjpenn85 1 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  9. #9
    amrit
    amrit's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-30-12
    Posts: 1,307
    Betpoints: 1613

    You guys think Khabib has value still at -350?

  10. #10
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Quote Originally Posted by amrit View Post
    You guys think Khabib has value still at -350?
    betting against poirier is a bad idea. Its a fight you dont bet.

    Take Islam. Free money. Davi Ramos is a complete disappointment. Bad footwork, only throw 1 max 2 shots. Scared. Bad cardio i can give you 10 more reasons. Its a mismatch at least. He needs to be on Islams back, but even then, im not sure he can submit the world champion in Sambo. Part from that Islam is better everywhere. easy 3 unit play for me.

  11. #11
    JC2008
    JC2008's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-27-08
    Posts: 2,258
    Betpoints: 2519

    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    betting against poirier is a bad idea. Its a fight you dont bet..
    - Speak for yourself pal.

  12. #12
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Quote Originally Posted by JC2008 View Post
    - Speak for yourself pal.
    Can you consider it being a bad bet?

  13. #13
    Pinoy-T-X
    Pinoy-T-X's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-28-12
    Posts: 2,176
    Betpoints: 21609

    Since this is in Dubai, I might parlay all Muslim fighters

  14. #14
    JC2008
    JC2008's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-27-08
    Posts: 2,258
    Betpoints: 2519

    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    Can you consider it being a bad bet?
    I think if you're gonna take Khabib you're probably gonna deal with props but I definitely think the ml can be good parlay sauce, especially since week 1 of the NFL is the next day. I also question if the climate in Abu Dhabi will be an issue for Poirier.

  15. #15
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Quote Originally Posted by JC2008 View Post
    I think if you're gonna take Khabib you're probably gonna deal with props but I definitely think the ml can be good parlay sauce, especially since week 1 of the NFL is the next day. I also question if the climate in Abu Dhabi will be an issue for Poirier.
    I see three other bets on that card as better deals. For -300 i need the fighter to be significantly better everywhere. Think if the fight ends up like Al iaquinta? Id say Poirier is a lot better than Iaquinta and that fight was close....you just need a guy to be slightly better than Al for that fight to be very very tricky for Nurma, if i was to play devils advocate.....
    Points Awarded:

    JC2008 gave bjpenn85 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  16. #16
    JC2008
    JC2008's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-27-08
    Posts: 2,258
    Betpoints: 2519

    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    I see three other bets on that card as better deals. For -300 i need the fighter to be significantly better everywhere. Think if the fight ends up like Al iaquinta? Id say Poirier is a lot better than Iaquinta and that fight was close....you just need a guy to be slightly better than Al for that fight to be very very tricky for Nurma, if i was to play devils advocate.....
    I will say I agree about Islam over Ramos.
    Points Awarded:

    bjpenn85 gave JC2008 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  17. #17
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Quote Originally Posted by JC2008 View Post
    I will say I agree about Islam over Ramos.
    I have a week off now and i have the time to cap fight for all of september, hadnt had time to cap adequately in a long while.

    Islams price sucks a bit, but its still ok as he can dominate potentially on the ground and standing, and pretty much dictate where the fight takes place. This is a fight who may seem close in 3/4th of round 1. But in round 2 and 3 be very clear whos the better fighter.

    I think actually Islam can finish Ramos as well.

    I was very disappointed over Ramos when i watched tape. Hes a big disappointment. A classical example of a fighter with good credentials who cant really put it together. Should shift camp, head coach, i dont know. Guy is athletic, fast, world champion, why do you then overall suck?

    I just shook my head during all of his fights....embarrassment

    PS:This is relative, obviously, he is an outstanding fighter from the outside looking in, but for us whos deep in the MMA game, hes an embarrassment, FYI.

  18. #18
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Fares Ziam opens at +250. I capped him at -130 favourite, obvious error imo.

  19. #19
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    2.30 still...i probably go ahead and say he should be a -200 fav. No man from South Africa should ever be a fav against a really good grappler from europe, with good standup!!!

    Fares makes fighting look really really easy. Im sure he can go 10 rounds. Big fan!

  20. #20
    U2.5
    U2.5's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-21-14
    Posts: 1,953
    Betpoints: 3223

    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    2.30 still...i probably go ahead and say he should be a -200 fav. No man from South Africa should ever be a fav against a really good grappler from europe, with good standup!!!

    Fares makes fighting look really really easy. Im sure he can go 10 rounds. Big fan!
    I like where your head is at my friend. You're sharp

  21. #21
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Quote Originally Posted by U2.5 View Post
    I like where your head is at my friend. You're sharp
    I bet him from +250, last time i hit him were at +130. So i put a total of 400 dollars on him.

    But seriously though....guy is super smart. He doesnt take risk at all, he just pot shot at distance....wait for someone to get in, kabam takedown. And when down he is very calm, just flows into positions, effortless. I dont care about level of opponent, skill is inherent. Connor was also a cage warrior fighter at a point.

    This guy, will and should easily take this south african "superstar" down, and just make him look stupid.

    5dimes been super sharp with all their lines today, but here came their first miss. And not unexpectedly, because KOs they sell, they send shockwave through a division, but strategical grappling round after round....who cares?

    Us....we do.
    Points Awarded:

    LBfightlife gave bjpenn85 1 SBR Point(s) for this post.


  22. #22
    amrit
    amrit's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-30-12
    Posts: 1,307
    Betpoints: 1613

    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    betting against poirier is a bad idea. Its a fight you dont bet.

    Take Islam. Free money. Davi Ramos is a complete disappointment. Bad footwork, only throw 1 max 2 shots. Scared. Bad cardio i can give you 10 more reasons. Its a mismatch at least. He needs to be on Islams back, but even then, im not sure he can submit the world champion in Sambo. Part from that Islam is better everywhere. easy 3 unit play for me.
    I'll probably be on Khabib and Islam parlay -125 for 3-4 units.

  23. #23
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Quote Originally Posted by amrit View Post
    I'll probably be on Khabib and Islam parlay -125 for 3-4 units.
    Khabib is very expensive...very very expensive. I dont like it.

  24. #24
    PaperTrail07
    MMA is the most pure sport
    PaperTrail07's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-29-08
    Posts: 20,423
    Betpoints: 585

    Ferreria +225 Consider me In lol...

  25. #25
    PaperTrail07
    MMA is the most pure sport
    PaperTrail07's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-29-08
    Posts: 20,423
    Betpoints: 585

    What a card

  26. #26
    Hugo de Naranja
    Hugo de Naranja's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-14-16
    Posts: 14,140
    Betpoints: 621

    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    I see three other bets on that card as better deals. For -300 i need the fighter to be significantly better everywhere. Think if the fight ends up like Al iaquinta? Id say Poirier is a lot better than Iaquinta and that fight was close....you just need a guy to be slightly better than Al for that fight to be very very tricky for Nurma, if i was to play devils advocate.....
    Iaquinta has much better TDD imo

  27. #27
    Hugo de Naranja
    Hugo de Naranja's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-14-16
    Posts: 14,140
    Betpoints: 621

    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    Ferreria +225 Consider me In lol...
    What’s his best path here?

  28. #28
    PaperTrail07
    MMA is the most pure sport
    PaperTrail07's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-29-08
    Posts: 20,423
    Betpoints: 585

    KO
    , Decision-any fuckkkn way he wants....+225 is WAY to much here..
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    What’s his best path here?

  29. #29
    Hugo de Naranja
    Hugo de Naranja's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 04-14-16
    Posts: 14,140
    Betpoints: 621

    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    KO
    , Decision-any fuckkkn way he wants....+225 is WAY to much here..
    I’ll take Taisumov for some BetPoints.
    Points Awarded:

    HurlSweatPants gave Hugo de Naranja 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  30. #30
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    Ferreria +225 Consider me In lol...
    Crazy town. Thumbs up from here man!!
    Points Awarded:

    PaperTrail07 gave bjpenn85 1 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  31. #31
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Iaquinta has much better TDD imo
    That might be right. Current Iaquinta might have better tdd. But he was always taken down before, kevin lee, chiesa are people i can think of on the top of my head. But Iaquintas current tdd, on the basis of stopping khabib, may be the best in the division. I just dont know if its achievable for Dustin to get on Iaquintas level within time. Is it possible to have a whole camp training tdd, and become a lot better, to the extent you can stuff Khabib? Most likely not. But i still wouldnt bet khabib at -330

  32. #32
    Pinoy-T-X
    Pinoy-T-X's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-28-12
    Posts: 2,176
    Betpoints: 21609

    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    But i still wouldnt bet khabib at -330
    How bout at -290?

  33. #33
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinoy-T-X View Post
    How bout at -290?

    I would go for handicap and squeeze out a -200 line, as the dec may easily be loopsided in favour of Khabib.

    ML -290 its so out of the question.......in another galaxay, fakk no, although its Khabib.

    Poirier is dangeroux my friend!

    -290 is wrrrrrrrrrroooooong. Its not worth it. Andreea Lee, Edson Barboza, Islam ON THE SAME CARD, no need for risking money on any -300 favourite.

    But if you must, go for handicap -200 or better and risk less. Khabib always wins you a handicap....if you dont like the handicap, then MAYBE you shouldnt even bet him? Because betting a person at -300 you should be VEEEEEEEERY confident he will smash his opponent.

    So handicap him and get a nice little line there, thats my tip

  34. #34
    Pinoy-T-X
    Pinoy-T-X's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-28-12
    Posts: 2,176
    Betpoints: 21609

    Quote Originally Posted by bjpenn85 View Post
    I would go for handicap and squeeze out a -200 line, as the dec may easily be loopsided in favour of Khabib.

    ML -290 its so out of the question.......in another galaxay, fakk no, although its Khabib.

    Poirier is dangeroux my friend!

    -290 is wrrrrrrrrrroooooong. Its not worth it. Andreea Lee, Edson Barboza, Islam ON THE SAME CARD, no need for risking money on any -300 favourite.

    But if you must, go for handicap -200 or better and risk less. Khabib always wins you a handicap....if you dont like the handicap, then MAYBE you shouldnt even bet him? Because betting a person at -300 you should be VEEEEEEEERY confident he will smash his opponent.

    So handicap him and get a nice little line there, thats my tip
    Thanks for your input.
    i just think Khabib will smash him , hulk style.
    if for some weird reason he doesn’t and it goes to decision, I think Muslim fighters wont be robbed in The Middle East, just my take mate.
    Points Awarded:

    Hugo de Naranja gave Pinoy-T-X 1 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  35. #35
    bjpenn85
    bjpenn85's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-11
    Posts: 5,059
    Betpoints: 16650

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinoy-T-X View Post
    Thanks for your input.
    i just think Khabib will smash him , hulk style.
    if for some weird reason he doesn’t and it goes to decision, I think Muslim fighters wont be robbed in The Middle East, just my take mate.

    You wont get robbed, but poirier may finish khabib late. Even Khabib can get tired round 4 and round 5 after going 3-0 the first three rounds. In a three round fight -300 isnt the worst price...but youre letting poirier getting another 2 rounds, that should make you think twice. doesnt poirier have more than a 2 in 10 chance of winning in a five round fight?


    Off course its wrong, thats why you shouldnt make the bet, imo.

    But good luck, i hope you win obviously, its only one mans opinion anyway.

1234 ... Last
Top