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    Ras Totals 1/3

    #572 Oakland UNDER 150
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    Thx so much KS!

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    Thanks KS, your contributions are appreciated.

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    2nd total out?

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    #558 Maryland OVER 143

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    Thx bud

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    Thx guys

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    wonder which crew is on sparty..total went up 2 points in the last hour..

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    Hey guys...I know this has been asked many times before, but what is a good "Limit" in terms of line movement on RAS plays in which it would become a no play? Perhaps 1.5 points on sides and maybe 3 points on totals?

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    I appreciate the insight as always...I would assume anything more than these filters would not be profitable...

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    Best is probably that you go on their site check history and analize yourself. They have all there what line they posted closing line and also final score so all you need is take time to check and knowing that future is impredictable.

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    thx

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    totals 0-1

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    I mean these totals aren't even close ... So gross

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    2010-2011 Overall -8.6 Units

    JANUARY
    January's College Basketball Picks - SIDES: Win/Loss: 30-31 | Units: -4.70
    January's College Basketball Picks - TOTALS: Win/Loss: 16-25 | Units: -11.50
    FEBRUARY
    February's College Basketball Picks - SIDES: Win/Loss: 13-18 | Units: -7.50
    February's College Basketball Picks - TOTALS: Win/Loss: 45-40 | Units: +1.00

    Be very careful the rest of the season. January especially. Markets have adjusted accordingly and their biggest edge was in beginning of the season. Sure they would agree as that's when the market is most inefficient.

    Hopefully I am wrong but play within your means or don't even play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Midas View Post
    2010-2011 Overall -8.6 Units

    JANUARY
    January's College Basketball Picks - SIDES: Win/Loss: 30-31 | Units: -4.70
    January's College Basketball Picks - TOTALS: Win/Loss: 16-25 | Units: -11.50
    FEBRUARY
    February's College Basketball Picks - SIDES: Win/Loss: 13-18 | Units: -7.50
    February's College Basketball Picks - TOTALS: Win/Loss: 45-40 | Units: +1.00

    Be very careful the rest of the season. January especially. Markets have adjusted accordingly and their biggest edge was in beginning of the season. Sure they would agree as that's when the market is most inefficient.

    Hopefully I am wrong but play within your means or don't even play.
    There is no doubt that edges on average will get smaller as the season goes on, but using only last year's data to make assumptions is a bad idea. It was our first and only losing CBB season ever, and we didn't have a full totals board until the end of January. Previous three years before last in Jan-Feb only: 132-91, 121-104, and 70-47, for 323-242 (57.1%) overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jolmscheid View Post
    Hey guys...I know this has been asked many times before, but what is a good "Limit" in terms of line movement on RAS plays in which it would become a no play? Perhaps 1.5 points on sides and maybe 3 points on totals?
    The easiest answer is that your goal should always be to beat the closing line.

    We are beating the closing line on sides by +1.15 points per pick, so if you can get within a 1/2 point of the release line on sides, you'll be beating the closing line by slightly more than a 1/2 point on average and do okay. We are beating the closing line on totals by +2.86 points per pick, so you should try to stay at least within 1.5 points of our line to beat the closing line by a reasonable margin. One problem with following these or any other guidelines is that the release lines posted here are quite often inaccurate.

    Of course, if you are betting more than $200 per game, there is no question you should subsribe to the service and give yourself an opportunity at the actual release line, and not miss any releases, ratings, or other pertinent information from the source.

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    None of that matters when the games lose by 15+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward-RAS View Post

    There is no doubt that edges on average will get smaller as the season goes on, but using only last year's data to make assumptions is a bad idea. It was our first and only losing CBB season ever, and we didn't have a full totals board until the end of January. Previous three years before last in Jan-Feb only: 132-91, 121-104, and 70-47, for 323-242 (57.1%) overall.
    I agree that it is a small sample and apologize for that. Obviously long-term you have shown great success. I just know that people follow your plays religiously and always get the worst of it (obviously I am referring the the non-subscribers) so just wanted to reiterate that even the 'best' service' can go through major slumps. Like I said, I hope I am wrong. Good luck the rest of the season!

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    By the way, has anyone noticed since the past week or so an overreaction by the market upon releases?

    To me it almost seems as though they (the market) consider their numbers way more efficient now that January began, and therefore if RAS releases a play they move the line almost double what they would just weeks ago. Of course, it does eventually come back a few points but wondering if anyone else noticed this. It's like they are more scared then ever now because they think they know it all and anything RAS releases they just move a ridiculous amount.

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    agree Midas. I mean that Oakland game was down to 144.5 and the release line was 150. that's the biggest discrepancy i've seen from a play.

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    and it went flying by that

    Quote Originally Posted by BonziWells View Post
    agree Midas. I mean that Oakland game was down to 144.5 and the release line was 150. that's the biggest discrepancy i've seen from a play.
    something stinks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Midas View Post
    even the 'best' service' can go through major slumps
    There is no doubt about that.

    We detail many of our own on our dealing with variance page.

    I just don't think going 2-4 the past two days resembles any kind of "major slump", we're still 13-9 (59.1%) since the holiday break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acavs View Post
    None of that matters when the games lose by 15+
    Sure in a small sample, but there is no doubt that all of it matters over the long run.

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    That Oakland game was crazy. Only 58 points in 1st half then 111 in the 2nd!

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