how do we make money in this FASCINATING INDUSTRY?

[16johnnymac]

For college hoops try wizardbeantown, dozer, and rochester (spelling not sure) they are pretty good just tail a few plays.

[Power Play]

Sell plays

Surefire way to make money. Doesn't matter if you're an effective capper or not. Here are the guidelines:
1. Post in forums (possibly using different screennames until you go on a hot streak. Tout hard in the process and "go pro" to sell your picks after developing a following.
2. Make multiple titles for plays: Monday night Massacre or bookie plays or true steam bomb, or lock of the year or 100% trend plays or twitter plays or morning moves or free plays. That way one of your play subgroups will always be hot and available for touting. Also it makes tracking your true record difficult and hard for people to question your "overall record" because you can just say twitter plays or free plays don't count if it loses. If it wins of course you can tout it hard.
3. Use unrealistic lines. You can either use the wacky lines from small/nonpaying F- books or the line of your choice at dual-line dealing books such as bodog. You can even use phantom lines that already steamed or just add a point in your favor here and there. Trust me those phantom lines add up and help you tout your record as better than it is.
4. Delete a loss here and there from your record when no one's looking. Maybe a losing pick from a month ago. That way it always look like you're hitting 55%+
5. Pay off sports monitors to establish credentials.
6. When you don't have any subscribers at a time. You can totally make up wins as you see fit. For example if a 1 month client's subscription expired, you can just immediately post a 20-0 winning streak and say you're on fire since you have no subscribers to track you. Then someone else will jump on and pay for your picks.
7. Make deals with sportsbooks to increase your earnings. Make deals with them so you get a percentage of your client's deposits. Since the books know you're a shady tout they'll be happy to do business with you.
8. Make ghost accounts in forum touting streaks and begging for plays.

This is just touting 101 more courses are availabe from industry experts such as Stu Feiner, Brandon Lang, and Vegas Runner.

[heleanth]

Power play, that is hilarious! Sounds like the exact directions for anybody that wants to become another VR or IC or Lang or any other scammer out there! Funny, funny shit!

[rafa martin]

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR ALL THE ADVICES AND HELP SOME OF THEM SOUNDS SO NORMAL AND EASY THAT WE OVERLOOK THE FACTS MANY TIMES,. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS YET,

1- WHAT IS LABBY MONEY MANAGEMENT?
2- WHAT ARE THE BEST USA SPORTBOKS?
3- IT IS BETTER TO HAVE 10-12 ACCOUNTS OR JUST STICK TO 2-3 MAXIMUN?
4- IT IS OK IN THE LONG TERM TO DO ARBITRAGE,,, CHECK OUT THIS WEB PAGE ODDS PORTAL,, THEY HAVE EVERYDAY SURE BETS UP TO A 10% many times,,, is this a good tecnique to implement too?
5- SECOND HALF COLLEGE GAMES,, NORMALLY OVER, RIGHT, OR NOT?


I CANNOT GIVE OUT POINTS, ONLY TWO DAMM MEANIGLESS POINTS,, ARE THEY GOLD OR WHAT?.. but i invite anyone who comes to southern sunny españa to come over my house, seville and marbella,, nice places , i soent all my teenager years in the usa, high school, and college, and for that i am so grateful to all of you,,, thanks so much guys and let'S kick some money, you must start all winning or at least not losing, staying in the picture forvth long run, sounds good right?
CIAO COLEGAS Y GRACIAS,RAFA

[rafa martin]

I was in same situation as you man,than i started with labby lines and here is what i do for 3months. I betting soccer and i do that all day,if one finished i make another bet and where i get my picks?Asianodds Org and beting only on blue ones,check that site and you will know,what i talking about..
I know,looks stupid,simple,coin flip,but coin flip in long run ended on 50% and thats what i need for labby and because i do about 5-7plays a day,that long run is shorter..
Its still just 3months,so i not betting big,but if this works another 3 months,LET'S PLAY!
GL

WHAT IS LABBY LINES?,,SO A LOT OF US HAVE GONE THROUGH THE SAME,, DID YOU TURN IT AROUND?,, RYAN TOLD ME HE DID, BUT NOW HE IS NOT IN THE FORUM LATELY,, MAYBE HE QUITS FOR A WHILE,, I WISH I HAVE THE BALLS TO DO THE SAME , BECAUSE I GET TOO EMOTIONAL IF I LOSE . OR GET HOOK IN THE POINT 71.5 AND THINGS LIKE THAT I INMEDIATELY DOUBLE THE NEXT BET AND CHASE,, WRONG RIGHT? HOPE WE ALL LEARN AND BECOME BETTERR PLAYERS,,, I WILL OPEN TOO AN ACCOUNT WITH LEGENDS,, AT LEAST THEY SOUND GOOD AND LEAST STRESSFUL THAN MANY OTHERS BOOKS,,, AVOID ODDSMAKERS THEY COMPARE TO EUROPEANS MI APUESTA.COM SPORTINBET,,, THEY ROB THE PLAYERS,,,,,WE GOT INFOR LET's START WINNING
GRACIAS A TODOS GUYS

[rafa martin]

Surefire way to make money. Doesn't matter if you're an effective capper or not. Here are the guidelines:
1. Post in forums (possibly using different screennames until you go on a hot streak. Tout hard in the process and "go pro" to sell your picks after developing a following.
2. Make multiple titles for plays: Monday night Massacre or bookie plays or true steam bomb, or lock of the year or 100% trend plays or twitter plays or morning moves or free plays. That way one of your play subgroups will always be hot and available for touting. Also it makes tracking your true record difficult and hard for people to question your "overall record" because you can just say twitter plays or free plays don't count if it loses. If it wins of course you can tout it hard.
3. Use unrealistic lines. You can either use the wacky lines from small/nonpaying F- books or the line of your choice at dual-line dealing books such as bodog. You can even use phantom lines that already steamed or just add a point in your favor here and there. Trust me those phantom lines add up and help you tout your record as better than it is.
4. Delete a loss here and there from your record when no one's looking. Maybe a losing pick from a month ago. That way it always look like you're hitting 55%+
5. Pay off sports monitors to establish credentials.
6. When you don't have any subscribers at a time. You can totally make up wins as you see fit. For example if a 1 month client's subscription expired, you can just immediately post a 20-0 winning streak and say you're on fire since you have no subscribers to track you. Then someone else will jump on and pay for your picks.
7. Make deals with sportsbooks to increase your earnings. Make deals with them so you get a percentage of your client's deposits. Since the books know you're a shady tout they'll be happy to do business with you.
8. Make ghost accounts in forum touting streaks and begging for plays.

This is just touting 101 more courses are availabe from industry experts such as Stu Feiner, Brandon Lang, and Vegas Runner.

NICE STUFF, I ENJOY READING THIS,,, THAT IS WHAT THIS SCAM ARTIST JOHN MORRISSON THE GRATEST SPORT SYSTEM DID WITH ME,, I PAY HIM THRU MONEYBOOKERS ABOUT 220 USD,, FOR THIS SYSTEM THAT ADVERTISE AS A 90% sport betting system winning plays,, i the sports cham betting system,, i remember now,,, i got robbed,, never even received his picks to my email,,, i even opened an account with vbet us because he recommended, did not enjoyed the experience, how can things like this happens in the web.. i guess this should be illegal and be consireded as a fraud.... thankfully that is not my case i am for real and would never like to make a players like us lose and get bankrupt

i tailed ic in hockey and naba, from late december,, awful run,,i think ras is good like most of you says,, but maybe sold his brains to the sportbokks,, too much connection between touts an books right?

[rafa martin]

cannot control myself for now!!!! i better quit take a time off, i became a degenerate, so hope you guys win and crash the books, i place too many bets and that way is not possible to profit!!

[fakeandthedrive]

Back the BULLS in every game. 46w -28L . +15 units 62% win.

[pepi]

i am tired of following cappers here and get down an down and down..... when i play ras picks,,, i am at 40%,
IF I PLAY DR. BOB very near 50%, ALSO down in real money not this units systems you guys claim so much,,, down in real euros or usd,, as you prefer, the others are even worse, i followed this cowboy guy,, indian,,,, in nhl and nba,, and went bankruptcy,,,,, if i fade lang cause most of you do the same i am 1 win, and 5 losses, this past week, so could anyone explain to me how to make consisting money in this fascinating but tiresome industry?

just yesterday i have left 1500 euros in my two books accounts,, dowm from 3000 euros a month earlier,, i was so tired of seen my account down one day after another,,, that tired of being patient and disciplinated,, i placed my entire bankrol, or balance as you wish(sorry cannon for my engLISH), in the all star game over,,, i picked myself and trow all remaining money in that bet,,,,, luckily i won it easy,, and got back again to my starting 3000 euros, 3400 usd..aprox.... so now i want to change again my betting behavior and being conservative and polite only betting 3-5% of my bankrol in each pick,,, but the main question is here,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what i must do to start growing this amount,,, not decreasing the starting 3000,, cause if i see going down again, i will do the same and chances are that i will lose this final bet,,,,,,,

hope i get bright and intelligent responses, i accept all advises, including about money mangement techniques,, even i think flat betting is the best way to go,, only it takes passion and adredaline away, it is more boring but i think more convenient,, kelly criterion i only see it for big large capitals,,,,

i got subscription for winning angle,,, they only hit 40%,, so whAT IS THE PURPOSE of posting the picks here,, so that is what i see when i read about this angela christie novel man,, brad lang, if he is not thrusty better not to play him,,, and fading only will take you to about a 45-50% of wins,,, so please explain how this goes?

tks so much rafa

Theres def. money to be made in this industry but it don't involve taking picks every day or in some cases every other day. I follow Deano and myself for the last 6 years and I have made enough to make me happy. I have bought lots of nice things and also went a year scraping and selling some stuff to get buy because I was greedy and impatient. Key work "Impatient". Teddy Covers is good at bases as well as Super Sports Group and a few others. To really, really, make money........ have a HUGE bankroll and chase very very small. From experience it really does work. You won't build your stack a heavy rate but you can protect a lot of loses. I know a lot of people frown on chasing but it can be a good thing if you have the money to back and protect you. If you do not have the money then stop dreaming of the big bucks because most likely you are following recent hot cappers and jumping back and forth probably risking more than you should and in the long haul....broke. I've been betting for a long time and been through the highs and the lows with cappers and with betting my own games. You need to find a capper you are familiar with or someone you talk to is familiar with. You need to know his tendency's, strengths and weaknesses. There is absolutely nothing wrong with passing on some of these guys plays. I've passed on Deano's play's probably 40% of the time this basketball season and rode him late to finish things out. In the end I had a break even season which I could of went broke at one point because he had a losing streak for a month or a little longer. I have a smaller bankroll this year and wanted to protect it and it paid off. Now I'm rollin with his underground baseball with a chunk of it and hope for a profitable season.

Most services are junk and liars, find a legit one with documented records and good rep and learn about that capper. If you want to play your own picks, play 2% flat if you have a small bankroll and mix in some dogs this baseball season. Many good cappers play lots of even money games continuously and finish with 45-50 percent and up units. Pick your spots and look deep in starting pitching and steaks. Never play a team after a loss (personal preference). A team coming off a win has a better mindset than one coming off a loss. 162 games is a lot and many teams play 7 games in one week. So you know they won't play hard all the time. Try to stay with-in divisions (motivation), and create your own value. This is just my opinion man so take it for what its worth

[DrSize]

Go all in on UConn tonight.....75% of your bankroll on -3 game and 25% on -1.5 1H....thats what I did and I will wake up with double what my bankroll was

[LORCET10]

"Nuttin But Winners" TREAD at another FORUM site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!you will win!!!

[jarvol]

Told you a long time ago......fade yourself.

[LLXC]

Do your own handicapping...

This. Sounds like you want easy money following other people's picks...it won't happen.

[sterling111]

Take up Bird Watching. Its free and you don't lose money.

[jsw64]

Fade yourself.

I would really be up if I did that - if I just could ever get up the nerve to do it.

[i4jelway7]

Uconn was the play... hit it hard myself

now to build your bankroll

1. flat bet 2-3% of your bankroll on every play do not fall for the GOY, GOM, 20unit 15unit BS betting strategys, FLAT BET all bets... and then you can take "shots" at stuff you really like by putting 5-6% of your bankroll on, but only do this when you are really confident in the pick or if you have a big enough bankroll you can sometimes hit the in-games for some "sure things".
2. only follow a limited # of winning cappers (check the monitor sites for cappers that are having a good year)
3. check the other forums on here besides the service plays, there are a lot of good cappers on here that you can tail if need be.

[eyeball]

Is it better to be betting one game a day for a c note or divide it into 10 games.


What works better multiple games or 1-2 games per day, it seems the more you bet the more you loose?

[johnkreese]

I enjoyed this thread.

Personally, money management has always been my downfall- bets always seem to get bigger when up big or down big, that is where the trouble happens. Be consistent. Don't step out after a good night or bad night.

[JBT]

Surefire way to make money. Doesn't matter if you're an effective capper or not. Here are the guidelines:
1. Post in forums (possibly using different screennames until you go on a hot streak. Tout hard in the process and "go pro" to sell your picks after developing a following.
2. Make multiple titles for plays: Monday night Massacre or bookie plays or true steam bomb, or lock of the year or 100% trend plays or twitter plays or morning moves or free plays. That way one of your play subgroups will always be hot and available for touting. Also it makes tracking your true record difficult and hard for people to question your "overall record" because you can just say twitter plays or free plays don't count if it loses. If it wins of course you can tout it hard.
3. Use unrealistic lines. You can either use the wacky lines from small/nonpaying F- books or the line of your choice at dual-line dealing books such as bodog. You can even use phantom lines that already steamed or just add a point in your favor here and there. Trust me those phantom lines add up and help you tout your record as better than it is.
4. Delete a loss here and there from your record when no one's looking. Maybe a losing pick from a month ago. That way it always look like you're hitting 55%+
5. Pay off sports monitors to establish credentials.
6. When you don't have any subscribers at a time. You can totally make up wins as you see fit. For example if a 1 month client's subscription expired, you can just immediately post a 20-0 winning streak and say you're on fire since you have no subscribers to track you. Then someone else will jump on and pay for your picks.
7. Make deals with sportsbooks to increase your earnings. Make deals with them so you get a percentage of your client's deposits. Since the books know you're a shady tout they'll be happy to do business with you.
8. Make ghost accounts in forum touting streaks and begging for plays.

This is just touting 101 more courses are availabe from industry experts such as Stu Feiner, Brandon Lang, and Vegas Runner.

LMAO! So sad but at the same time so true...

[i4jelway7]

Is it better to be betting one game a day for a c note or divide it into 10 games.


What works better multiple games or 1-2 games per day, it seems the more you bet the more you loose?

it will be more profitable if you just bet 1-2 games per day, unless you are picking 70% winners

[eyeball]

Thanks
because some of these touts say 10 games because if you do 54% on 10 games well thats a lot more profit than 54% of 1-2 games. ( if you are betting the same per game)

But I think you might just be spreading your bankroll out among lets say 10 games? I hear well if you have a positive EV well play everthing that has a positive EV. But do we really know when we have a positive EV?



Seems a lot more juice spent on multiple games

[halofan]

Fade Lang. Follow Bettingresource. Don't bet anything else. If those two cappers don't have anything, take the day off. Discipline is key.

[Sfritts8]

this thread is full of bad advice from people who dont understand math.

[eyeball]

Lots of touts use all kinds of star systems to inflate their record.. 1,2,3,45 *
Plus they like to give out a ton of plays to give you action, but do these plays actually have a chance of winning?

[rafa martin]

too much marketing involves here,, just follow bl as an example and you guys will profit,but, instead i follow paid cappers and went to hell,, THIS IS A WEIRD INDUSTRY WHOM SEEMS GOOD is awful, and the oppossite i wished i could only bet sj or bl plays,,, not doc's sports, betting resources,ras,ic and all those high name guys,, they hit the saME WE COULD DO,,, ANd when we get down i lose all my control....but i know many of you act like me,, i am not a dumbass,,, i be back like in a stallone movie,,, but i need a push,, not starting with a 5000 usd bankoll and next week be4000,, when that happens to me,, i think i never be able to win away,,,,,it doesn't sound familiar? ONE THING FOR SURE I WON't pay again for touts picks, i learn the hard way,,,,,,,,,,,,have a good playoffs all of you and please crush the books, but not only words,, reality...................maybe i come back placing a big amount in the lakers to win it all..hope sj or bl agrees?.........by the way i am 40,, maybe that's why i am tired of betting, 5 years ago i though this wAS so easy,....... but NOW I KNOW IS NOT.............GOOD LUCK MATES PROFIT PLEASE IT's either us or them, that's the way to look it.

[rafa martin]

Fade Lang. Follow Bettingresource. Don't bet anything else. If those two cappers don't have anything, take the day off. Discipline is key.

how can you say that, they even took a rest because last month they were 15 straithg days lossing, i been a subscriber but do not even play their bets anymore,, today there are on yankies -1.25 montreal and memphis -9 pts... tell me tomorrow, who they did? i do not have the balls to place their bets anymore,, i only trust bl by now,, he is much better than anybody else i wish i could meet him one time, and just follow his advise...play br and tell me tommorrow.. cheers

[mav924]

Flip of a coin and money management

[beefcake]

Follow me on here betting Entertainment bets..

[marinagmendes]

you need to be able to figure out winning picks, focus on specific leagues that you know extremely well

dont follow a bunch of systems

you need to play a TON of games before the variance equals out and you will see if you are a long term winner/loser

make small bets so you dont risk being out of action

[Vaughany]

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR ALL THE ADVICES AND HELP SOME OF THEM SOUNDS SO NORMAL AND EASY THAT WE OVERLOOK THE FACTS MANY TIMES,. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS YET,

1- WHAT IS LABBY MONEY MANAGEMENT?
2- WHAT ARE THE BEST USA SPORTBOKS?
3- IT IS BETTER TO HAVE 10-12 ACCOUNTS OR JUST STICK TO 2-3 MAXIMUN?
4- IT IS OK IN THE LONG TERM TO DO ARBITRAGE,,, CHECK OUT THIS WEB PAGE ODDS PORTAL,, THEY HAVE EVERYDAY SURE BETS UP TO A 10% many times,,, is this a good tecnique to implement too?
5- SECOND HALF COLLEGE GAMES,, NORMALLY OVER, RIGHT, OR NOT?


I CANNOT GIVE OUT POINTS, ONLY TWO DAMM MEANIGLESS POINTS,, ARE THEY GOLD OR WHAT?.. but i invite anyone who comes to southern sunny españa to come over my house, seville and marbella,, nice places , i soent all my teenager years in the usa, high school, and college, and for that i am so grateful to all of you,,, thanks so much guys and let'S kick some money, you must start all winning or at least not losing, staying in the picture forvth long run, sounds good right?
CIAO COLEGAS Y GRACIAS,RAFA

U should bet on mixed martial arts if you want to make money, check out the Boxing/mma forum. Arbitrage betting is the key and this very possible if ur not based in USA and have access to Euro books... check out my thread "Vaughany's MMA picks" for proof!

My best mate has a villa in Sotogrande, not too far from Marbella, and an apartment in Fuengirola which we go to every summer. Hopefully gonna have a couple of nights in Seville this summer tho

[Wrecktangle]

This industry needs lots of fish to survive. Casinos are the Sharks, sharp players are the remoras. If there weren't a lot of folks with issues with gambling, this business wouldn't even exit. A major city was built out in the desert away from anything worthwhile based on betting. i.e. we need a lots of people to lose money to make things work.

Sorry.

[rafa martin]

U should bet on mixed martial arts if you want to make money, check out the Boxing/mma forum. Arbitrage betting is the key and this very possible if ur not based in USA and have access to Euro books... check out my thread "Vaughany's MMA picks" for proof!

My best mate has a villa in Sotogrande, not too far from Marbella, and an apartment in Fuengirola which we go to every summer. Hopefully gonna have a couple of nights in Seville this summer tho

sotogrande is the most expensive area in whole spain!!!,,, you definiteli liked there, right?,, I love it,, then drive to marbella for nightlife,,,, only the road is dangerous, behave,,but the trip is worth it, right?

[constrictor]

i am tired of following cappers here and get down an down and down..... when i play ras picks,,, i am at 40%,
IF I PLAY DR. BOB very near 50%, ALSO down in real money not this units systems you guys claim so much,,, down in real euros or usd,, as you prefer, the others are even worse, i followed this cowboy guy,, indian,,,, in nhl and nba,, and went bankruptcy,,,,, if i fade lang cause most of you do the same i am 1 win, and 5 losses, this past week, so could anyone explain to me how to make consisting money in this fascinating but tiresome industry?

just yesterday i have left 1500 euros in my two books accounts,, dowm from 3000 euros a month earlier,, i was so tired of seen my account down one day after another,,, that tired of being patient and disciplinated,, i placed my entire bankrol, or balance as you wish(sorry cannon for my engLISH), in the all star game over,,, i picked myself and trow all remaining money in that bet,,,,, luckily i won it easy,, and got back again to my starting 3000 euros, 3400 usd..aprox.... so now i want to change again my betting behavior and being conservative and polite only betting 3-5% of my bankrol in each pick,,, but the main question is here,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what i must do to start growing this amount,,, not decreasing the starting 3000,, cause if i see going down again, i will do the same and chances are that i will lose this final bet,,,,,,,

hope i get bright and intelligent responses, i accept all advises, including about money mangement techniques,, even i think flat betting is the best way to go,, only it takes passion and adredaline away, it is more boring but i think more convenient,, kelly criterion i only see it for big large capitals,,,,

i got subscription for winning angle,,, they only hit 40%,, so whAT IS THE PURPOSE of posting the picks here,, so that is what i see when i read about this angela christie novel man,, brad lang, if he is not thrusty better not to play him,,, and fading only will take you to about a 45-50% of wins,,, so please explain how this goes?

tks so much rafa

rafa you will get better results by following me.

send me a pm if you want to and we'll work together.

[PoweRay]

We need to add chargebacks and W U and M G scams/altering money transfer receipts to the list - Cory1111

[Vaughany]

sotogrande is the most expensive area in whole spain!!!,,, you definiteli liked there, right?,, I love it,, then drive to marbella for nightlife,,,, only the road is dangerous, behave,,but the trip is worth it, right?

ha yes his villa is pretty big, Sotogrande is very nice but not great nightlife so that's why we head to Marbella and Fuengirola as well. And yeah the roads arent great but trip is definetly worth it for sure! Have u got houses in Marbella and Seville then?