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  • stealthyburrito
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    • 05-12-09
    • 21562

    #246
    Originally posted by THE PROFIT
    we evolved from simple organisms. Life started as simple cells in the water. No water was on earth at first, so.....

    Fuk, take a science class or watch a little national geographic & science channel & I'll fill in the holes. I cant start with a blank slate of stupidity
    its funny because no plausible theory has been developed to address this question.

    some say something along the lines of lightning and water, shit like that but it is full of holes.

    we can address how life evolved, but not how earth went from abiotic to biotic.

    if we figured it out, could we create life ourselves?
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #247
      damn Christians retook the lead, there goes my hope for a more enlightened group of ppl
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      • lyon804
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        • 11-02-09
        • 6526

        #248
        Originally posted by THE PROFIT
        Im not clueess dude, you said you are. Read a little, do a little research, try, instead of expecting people to answer your questions. Because there's people that will answer them for you with easy to understand answers in big letters at Sunday School! Thats the fukin problem. Non thinking zombies & sheep

        I am not looking for a forum full of life losers to answer any questions. Since we were already stroking very "deep" subjects I thought I would be amused to here other "deep" explanation since the Christian Vs. Athiest had already run it's course. it's evident you do not want to oblige me so carry on power posting.
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #249
          i do see a lot of poster i like on the christian list, as long as they not ass clowns about it like boozeman its all good, hell my mother is a Presbyterian minister and she is great, doesnt like arguing religion with me much though
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #250
            Originally posted by lyon804
            I am not looking for a forum full of life losers to answer any questions. Since we were already stroking very "deep" subjects I thought I would be amused to here other "deep" explanation since the Christian Vs. Athiest had already run it's course. it's evident you do not want to oblige me so carry on power posting.

            OUCH
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            • stealthyburrito
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-12-09
              • 21562

              #251
              Originally posted by lyon804
              I am not looking for a forum full of life losers to answer any questions. Since we were already stroking very "deep" subjects I thought I would be amused to here other "deep" explanation since the Christian Vs. Athiest had already run it's course. it's evident you do not want to oblige me so carry on power posting.
              i am very open to believing in a god myself, so long as someone can provide scientific, factual evidence of a god existing. The evidence presented here in favor of a christian god is fundamentally flawed in that it relies on pre-existing christian beliefs, which are most certainly not grounded in fact themselves (for the most part).
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              • THE PROFIT
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                • 11-27-09
                • 17701

                #252
                great show on right now called 'through the wormhole' with some great discussion of why we humans feel the need to have a cosmic creator
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                • brooks85
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                  • 01-05-09
                  • 44709

                  #253
                  everyone knows the right religion is mormons
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                  • stealthyburrito
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                    • 05-12-09
                    • 21562

                    #254
                    Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                    great show on right now called 'through the wormhole' with some great discussion of why we humans feel the need to have a cosmic creator
                    what channel?
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                    • lyon804
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                      • 11-02-09
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                      #255
                      Originally posted by stealthyburrito
                      i am very open to believing in a god myself, so long as someone can provide scientific, factual evidence of a god existing. The evidence presented here in favor of a christian god is fundamentally flawed in that it relies on pre-existing christian beliefs, which are most certainly not grounded in fact themselves (for the most part).


                      And most likely that will never be presented. I was amused to read the debate on both sides however.
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                      • THE PROFIT
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                        • 11-27-09
                        • 17701

                        #256
                        science
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                        • gmcarroll33
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                          • 03-18-09
                          • 122

                          #257
                          Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                          I found this documentary pretty disappointing as I really like Ben Stein. Religulous(Bill Mahr) is 10 times better and less biased in my opinion. Everyone should definitely watch them both though.
                          Lol what? Maher is an atheist, and admittedly despises religion. You think this was just a non-biased documentary where he went about his way to find answers among the smartest intellects in the field of theology and biggest apologetics of all the major religions? Hell no, he made a hilarious mockery of religion. Even as a believer I thought the movie was totally hilarious, but all he did was go around to the most backwoods places he could find and interview the biggest idiots of each religion he could possibly come across, like the black dude claiming the good lord wanted him to look good and rich while he preached, while throwing out the lol Horus vs Jesus card that can be simply answered. It was an entertaining laugh for sure though. I'd recommend it for a good comedy watch if nothing else
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                          • nobs
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                            • 08-31-09
                            • 4216

                            #258
                            Why are you Christians on a gambling Board ?

                            Isn't gambling a sin ?
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                            • JohnGalt2341
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                              • 12-31-09
                              • 9138

                              #259
                              Originally posted by gmcarroll33
                              Lol what? Maher is an atheist, and admittedly despises religion. You think this was just a non-biased documentary where he went about his way to find answers among the smartest intellects in the field of theology and biggest apologetics of all the major religions? Hell no, he made a hilarious mockery of religion. Even as a believer I thought the movie was totally hilarious, but all he did was go around to the most backwoods places he could find and interview the biggest idiots of each religion he could possibly come across, like the black dude claiming the good lord wanted him to look good and rich while he preached, while throwing out the lol Horus vs Jesus card that can be simply answered. It was an entertaining laugh for sure though. I'd recommend it for a good comedy watch if nothing else
                              It's been a while since I've seen both films but from what I can remember and what I meant was, in Expelled Ben Stein just flat out lied about things that were not even close to being true. However, in Religulous Bill Maher pretty much admitted that he didn't HAVE all the answers and he didn't pretend to. He asked questions to people that DID CLAIM to have all the answers. If they looked like idiots and fools... so be it. People that claim to have answers to things that are essentially unknowable usually are idiots and fools. For instance, you will NEVER see me start a thread with something like this... GUARANTEED LOCK OF THE CENTURY! Yet I see around 10 threads like this a day and half of the time they lose.
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                              • stealthyburrito
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                                • 05-12-09
                                • 21562

                                #260
                                What did he lie about??

                                I know he took things out of context which did bother me somewhat. like how he connected darwinism to nazism, and took some of darwin's quotes out of their context and used it to justify his position regarding the potential results in subscribing to darwinist theory (eugenics, scientific racism, etc.).
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                                • Herrington
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                                  • 06-07-10
                                  • 94

                                  #261
                                  Christians jewish or wathever you are you have to learn to relacionate with the human beings as a society because the laws of phisics come on to work as a society and not as animals so rether you belive in the cience or a religion it al comes into Gods and relations. There not such thing as Good or Bad its Just a balance in your life....So do your Good Stuff and trie your best on everything..................
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                                  • losturmarbles
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                                    • 07-01-08
                                    • 4604

                                    #262
                                    "Religious" was ok. i liked the beginning in the truck stop. wished maher just stuck with that type of documentary. it got boring fast after that. plus it seems a lot of his arguments seemed unoriginal. seems like he watched part 1 from Zeitgeist the movie right before recording that truck stop piece.
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                                    • Metalhead
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 07-14-09
                                      • 719

                                      #263
                                      This video is funny, especially the first 2 minutes.
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                                      • stealthyburrito
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                                        • 05-12-09
                                        • 21562

                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by Metalhead
                                        This video is funny, especially the first 2 minutes.
                                        this was one of the funniest stand ups i've ever seen
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                                        • JohnGalt2341
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                                          • 12-31-09
                                          • 9138

                                          #265
                                          Originally posted by Herrington
                                          Christians jewish or wathever you are you have to learn to relacionate with the human beings as a society because the laws of phisics come on to work as a society and not as animals so rether you belive in the cience or a religion it al comes into Gods and relations. There not such thing as Good or Bad its Just a balance in your life....So do your Good Stuff and trie your best on everything..................
                                          wathever, relacionate, phisics, rether, belive, cience, al, trie,... No offense my friend... but either you are drunk as hell or you need to invest in a spellchecker. One thing that IS good about the Bible is most of the words are spelled correctly. Read the entire Bible and I assure you that will become a better speller. Not to mention that... nothing will lead a person to Atheism faster than reading the Bible. It's incredibly ironic isn't it?
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                                          • gwiz
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                                            • 02-09-10
                                            • 1790

                                            #266
                                            reading the bible is what made me believe in satan

                                            only an evil god would do some of the things attributed to "god"

                                            to make sense of the bible in literal terms it must be understood that the devil is disguised as "god" and you have to be smart enough to decipher which is which

                                            I would suggest looking at the first two pages which someone says is a bunch of nonsense and look at how the words are used,the bible isn't just about one exclusive "god" doing everything,things have to be put into context,I believe that is why it is broken into 66 books

                                            the creator created all things in 7 days and his story ends,from there everytime you see a "god" referred to it is a devil

                                            I would say the bible is a big word puzzle,nothing is spelled out the way a math problem would be.
                                            Last edited by gwiz; 06-12-10, 03:09 AM.
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                                            • Albert Pujols
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                                              • 06-01-10
                                              • 1670

                                              #267
                                              Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                                              I love how with there's 99% of shit that can be explained but 1% not, that has to be the part of god.

                                              What is it about god that you need so bad??? That you have to believe blindly in the face of overwhelming evidence that deities are fiction. Zeus, Thor, were they not good enough. The Christians have to kill races of people to force their new savior onto people who dont want it, now you're gonna sit here & say its real???? What the fuk is wrong with this goddamn world???
                                              Isn't it just a little ironic that you don't believe in God, and rant that it's a bunch of bullshit, and then finish the rant with "goddam?"

                                              Belief in God is undeniable. The world doesn't systematically revolve around a random star in an exact orderly fashion every year on its own.
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                                              • DrStale
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                                                • 12-07-08
                                                • 9692

                                                #268
                                                Originally posted by Albert Pujols

                                                Belief in God is undeniable. The world doesn't systematically revolve around a random star in an exact orderly fashion every year on its own.
                                                Here's the problem with your argument. How is it more likely that there's a giant invisible being that created it than it being random? Either way the odds are insane, IMO. And again, a lot of the arguing in this thread isn't against a belief in God per say, but rather Christianity.
                                                Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                                • mrmarket
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                                                  • 01-26-10
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                                                  #269
                                                  Originally posted by Albert Pujols
                                                  Isn't it just a little ironic that you don't believe in God, and rant that it's a bunch of bullshit, and then finish the rant with "goddam?"

                                                  Belief in God is undeniable. The world doesn't systematically revolve around a random star in an exact orderly fashion every year on its own.
                                                  Prove it.
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                                                  • Albert Pujols
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                                                    • 06-01-10
                                                    • 1670

                                                    #270
                                                    Originally posted by DrStale
                                                    Here's the problem with your argument. How is it more likely that there's a giant invisible being that created it than it being random? Either way the odds are insane, IMO. And again, a lot of the arguing in this thread isn't against a belief in God per say, but rather Christianity.
                                                    God is supernatural. That's the difference. You can choose to believe it's all natural, and all this order just happens on its own. But c'mon. Deep down, everyone has to know that there is something magnificent way beyond what we can see that created this world and holds it together.
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                                                    • Metalhead
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                                                      • 07-14-09
                                                      • 719

                                                      #271
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                                                      • DrStale
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                                                        • 12-07-08
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                                                        #272
                                                        Originally posted by Albert Pujols
                                                        God is supernatural. That's the difference. You can choose to believe it's all natural, and all this order just happens on its own. But c'mon. Deep down, everyone has to know that there is something magnificent way beyond what we can see that created this world and holds it together.
                                                        If there's a supernatural being "holding the world together" then its doing a pretty shitty job of it. War, famine, etc. will kill everything off within the next thousand years. If anything, seeing all the shit that human beings have done and are doing leads me to believe there is nothing out there. The only possibility IMO is that whatever is out there has constructed a plan that the human brain cannot conceive, though if that plan still involves torture and murder of helpless human beings it does seem fvcked up to me.
                                                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                        If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                                        • Jule
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                                                          • 04-02-10
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                                                          #273
                                                          Atheist here...God id dead (if he ever was alive).
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                                                          • THE PROFIT
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                                                            • 11-27-09
                                                            • 17701

                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by Albert Pujols
                                                            Isn't it just a little ironic that you don't believe in God, and rant that it's a bunch of bullshit, and then finish the rant with "goddam?"

                                                            Belief in God is undeniable. The world doesn't systematically revolve around a random star in an exact orderly fashion every year on its own.
                                                            you're an idiot!
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                                                            • THE PROFIT
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                                                              • 11-27-09
                                                              • 17701

                                                              #275
                                                              Sorry, Pujols. I shouldnt say that. I apologize. I just find it a little crazy that in the face of rational thought & scientific evidence & reasoning of how the solar system operates you say the undeniable one is the magic man
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                                                              • Albert Pujols
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                                                                • 06-01-10
                                                                • 1670

                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                                                                Sorry, Pujols. I shouldnt say that. I apologize. I just find it a little crazy that in the face of rational thought & scientific evidence & reasoning of how the solar system operates you say the undeniable one is the magic man
                                                                I say that rational thought and scientific evidence points to a creator. Order does not happen on its own. You look at Mount Rushmore and you know that someone created it. You look at a computer, and you know it isn't just matter that decided on its own to form into a beautiful machine. How much more complicated and wonderfully constructed is the earth and all of its different life forms? How unreal is the human body and the processes that it goes through every day just to sustain life. Our hearts don't keep beating because matter just formed them. They keep beating because a creator made them. I'm rational and deep thinking, and I conclude that it's completely irrational and absurd to believe believe that is no God. You're perfectly welcome to come to another conclusion, but my beliefs don't make me an idiot.
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                                                                • Albert Pujols
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                                                                  • 06-01-10
                                                                  • 1670

                                                                  #277
                                                                  Originally posted by DrStale
                                                                  If there's a supernatural being "holding the world together" then its doing a pretty shitty job of it. War, famine, etc. will kill everything off within the next thousand years. If anything, seeing all the shit that human beings have done and are doing leads me to believe there is nothing out there. The only possibility IMO is that whatever is out there has constructed a plan that the human brain cannot conceive, though if that plan still involves torture and murder of helpless human beings it does seem fvcked up to me.
                                                                  Your questions are reasonable and warranted. They are very fair questions. I have similar questions and doubts myself. I do know that the Bible teaches that this world is currently under the rule of Satan. The Bible talks about how the world will end and eventually be destroyed, and talks about the very things that you speak of.
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                                                                  • Jule
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                                                                    • 04-02-10
                                                                    • 404

                                                                    #278
                                                                    A computer created by God? Hmmm... that does not convince me. The world is the way it is (and trust me, it is a pretty shitty place) because of mere chance and people's minds. We come alone and we leave alone (I know, so Camusesque). Outside of our sorry lives a whole lot of nothing is awaiting us. If a person is narcissistic enough to leave some kind of trace, he/she should have a baby.
                                                                    Oh, and seriously, who would want to be in "heaven" and sit on a silly cloud for ETERNITY? Sounds lame to me.
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                                                                    • mrmarket
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                                                                      • 01-26-10
                                                                      • 4953

                                                                      #279
                                                                      Originally posted by Albert Pujols
                                                                      I say that rational thought and scientific evidence points to a creator. Order does not happen on its own. You look at Mount Rushmore and you know that someone created it. You look at a computer, and you know it isn't just matter that decided on its own to form into a beautiful machine. How much more complicated and wonderfully constructed is the earth and all of its different life forms? How unreal is the human body and the processes that it goes through every day just to sustain life. Our hearts don't keep beating because matter just formed them. They keep beating because a creator made them. I'm rational and deep thinking, and I conclude that it's completely irrational and absurd to believe believe that is no God. You're perfectly welcome to come to another conclusion, but my beliefs don't make me an idiot.
                                                                      You are neither rational nor deep thinking. Your beliefs do make you look foolish and it is not particularly difficult to understand that there is no god. Once again please PROVE your assertions. Your faith is irrelevant.
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                                                                      • gwiz
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                                                                        • 02-09-10
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                                                                        #280
                                                                        you fail to understand that by saying there is no god you are acting as god,

                                                                        you want to not believe thats your choice,but to force your belief on someone else is to act as god over them

                                                                        it is its own form of religion

                                                                        nobody has to prove anything
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