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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelewis View Post
    Listen Idiot, you posted that you "fake coughed" during the pandemic, not me....I am a proud American and your weak ass country would be a territory of Russia if it wasn't for US...show some respect....you have to beat the Champ to be the Champ and here in America we are undefeated...we don't lose
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    Texas Gov Abbott is threatening Texans if they don't want to mask up as he ordered a week ago, they will see a another lockdown.

    Not wearing a mask in Texas will have consequences. So their Texans, get the word out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRocks View Post
    Texas Gov Abbott is threatening Texans if they don't want to mask up as he ordered a week ago, they will see a another lockdown.

    Not wearing a mask in Texas will have consequences. So their Texans, get the word out...
    That what Iím saying. If wearing a mask keeps shit opened I donít understand why ppl wanna be so difficult? It kinda annoys me but it really not that big a deal, beats the shit out of being stuck back at home not doing shit again!!

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    sooner everyone does the mask, the sooner this BS goes away. it's not a big deal to wear one. look like a train robber when you go out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRocks View Post
    Texas Gov Abbott is threatening Texans if they don't want to mask up as he ordered a week ago, they will see a another lockdown.

    Not wearing a mask in Texas will have consequences. So their Texans, get the word out...

    The great thing about America is you have the right to be an idiot. If you want to stop them from exercising that right constantly, you have

    to make laws and then enforce them. I am against taking our freedoms, but in this case I believe it is warranted, like seat belts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    There are people who don't wear seat belts when driving or helmets when riding motorcycles. There is always going to be an amount of stupid people in any society. This is why Darwinism will always work. Survival of the fittest.
    This would make sense, if not wearing a seat belt caused you to be a higher risk to kill others, not just yourself.

    Better example would be parents who purposely have their kids NOT wear seat belts. It's my right, don't tread on me blah blah. In the end, their decision adversely affected others.

    In countries with socialized medicine, I can see why seat belts and helmets for motorcycles are mandatory. (since the medical system shared by all will bear the brunt of people sustaining much greater injuries)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRocks View Post
    Texas Gov Abbott is threatening Texans if they don't want to mask up as he ordered a week ago, they will see a another lockdown.

    Not wearing a mask in Texas will have consequences. So their Texans, get the word out...
    Does nobody realize that the executive order lockdowns have already been found unconstitutional (Wisconsin).

    There is no more shutting down without legislative action state by state.

    Each new EO shutdown is subject now to millions in liability via lawsuits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_Guest_Pro View Post
    sooner everyone does the mask, the sooner this BS goes away. it's not a big deal to wear one. look like a train robber when you go out.
    It's not a big deal to YOU to wear one. Way more think that it is taking away more than they can handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    It's not a big deal to YOU to wear one. Way more think that it is taking away more than they can handle.
    But itís really not is it? I enjoy being a asshole as much as the next guy. I have serious issues with the shutdowns and crap, but the mask when indoors around others is really a very small ask in the grand scheme of things.

    If the experts think wearing one will prevent shutting down again and get our sports back then I will wear the mask! There tons of laws and rules that infringe upon freedom way more than this! And if there even a chance wearing the mask is helping out others we should be happy to do so! Nothing wrong with being decent every now and again!!

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    LOL of all the guys that think masks work

    100% mask usage in China and spread uncontrollably through the entire country
    Israel with mandatory masks the last two months and much more strict than USA curve looks like FLA and about to lockdown again
    South Africa with mandatory mask the last two months and record number of cases the last week
    Norway, Finland, Switzerland, New Zealand, Denmark with 0 mask usage and some of the countries with the best results.

    CNN and MSNBC with there 24/7 masks are the cure message is 100% false

    First they said not to wear masks
    Then wear masks
    Then my mask saves you, your mask saves me
    Then your selfish if you dont wear a mask
    Now were going to close back down if you don't wear a mask
    Now need to wear masks outside and in your home
    Now if you want fall sports you need to wear a mask

    It just never ends

    They need to STFU about masks... those of us who are not going to wear them will not be changing our minds any time soon no matter how much they want to guilt us or fine us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_Guest_Pro View Post
    sooner everyone does the mask, the sooner this BS goes away. it's not a big deal to wear one. look like a train robber when you go out.
    It's crazy that it's so political. Anti science people always believe there are dark motives behind anything branded by science. Someone posted in here how they instinctively don't trust doctors. Sweet jesus.

    Hyper political people always believe everything either helps or hurts them. No concern about right or wrong, just is this a net gain or loss politically.

    The ones whining about the mixed messaging are the same people who whine when a scientific study says eggs are good, then eggs are bad, then eggs cure cancer, then eggs cause cancer. Science is not religion (or pure faith based belief in things). The scientific method is based on hypothesis and begs to be proven wrong. It's based on the best current available evidence. That's why things are called the THEORY of evolution or The Big Bang THEORY. Theories can be tested. If it's the best theory, people talk about it like fact, but theories are just that, supposition based on available evidence.

    The evidence is that in countries where

    - mass testing was done early
    - those who tested positive were isolated/quarantined
    - masks were predominately used

    The level of infection dropped. It doesn't mean they beat the virus.

    Since the vast majority of "high risk" people are still isolating, it makes sense you'll see a much lower death rate right now. With post virus symptoms like heart/lung damage or even neurological issues, it's easy for people to say "let's all get it and build up herd immunity so I can enjoy The 'Bama game".

    It's just sad that it seems like we have a pretty good idea of what will bring us back to even partial normalcy, and it's being painted as "my ability to infect you" is couched as a freedom/liberty thing.

    Past generations had no choice and went and fought wars in places they never heard of, for people who'd never get to thank them. Those behind went without foods and goods to support a war effort that didn't appear to even be directly a threat to the homeland.

    Some in this generation think wearing a mask when they go to Costco is too much of a sacrifice.

    When the virus first began spreading, talk of masks was from a health care perspective. N95 masks, face shields were thought to be the best way for health care workers to try and prevent becoming infected. The thinking at first was "how to not catch it". With a limited supply of N95 masks available, the surgeon general was stuck basically trying to say "leave the masks for the health care workers" which to many would translate to "their lives are more valuable than yours".

    As understanding of the spread evolved, and through witnessing other countries and their mass use of masks, it seemed to be that the biggest cause of spread was through droplets expelled from the mouth. So while not ideal, cloth masks cut down the spread significantly (up to 95% by some estimates). It still won't stop you from catching it - but as previously said, if you're a carrier without symptoms, it'll cut down your ability to share it with who knows how many people.

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    I donít know if they work or not Emily . If there a chance they do it seems awful damn ignorant not to. What exactly about wearing one is such a problem for you? I been as opposed to the drís and media about corona as anyone but the mask is no big deal!! Why not just give it a shot? What does wearing one hurt???

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    I don’t know if they work or not Emily . If there a chance they do it seems awful damn ignorant not to. What exactly about wearing one is such a problem for you? I been as opposed to the dr’s and media about corona as anyone but the mask is no big deal!! Why not just give it a shot? What does wearing one hurt???
    Government doesn't get to tell me what to do.

    Mask mandates in 19 states with Democrat governors yet in only 3 with Republican governors

    I get punished for simply living in a state with a democrat governor.

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    I donít trust drís one bit. I think trusting them is just as crazy as you seem to think not trusting Them is! We are talking about a group of ppl who caused a opioid epidemic peddling drugs for the pharmacy industry.

    That said I believe if wearing a mask has a chance of helping it ignorant not to give it a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    Government doesn't get to tell me what to do.

    Mask mandates in 19 states with Democrat governors yet in only 3 with Republican governors

    I get punished for simply living in a state with a democrat governor.
    Oh come on, they actually do get to tell us what to do, unless you wanna face prison sentences there plenty we told to do or not do!! Of all the stupid ass laws that infringe upon freedom wearing a mask is way more reasonable! Shouldnít need to be forced, if there a chance it helps others why not just do it? Iím not wearing cause any law or mandate. Iím doing so cause it might help and I donít want another shut down, and I want sports back!

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    Masks lmao
    Y'all some dumb mother fukkers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    Government doesn't get to tell me what to do.

    Mask mandates in 19 states with Democrat governors yet in only 3 with Republican governors

    I get punished for simply living in a state with a democrat governor.
    Can't tell you what to do?

    Being punished?

    Sounds pretty dramatic. I hope you gain a lot from your protest, or punshment avoidance, or whatever it is you're trying to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrogen View Post
    This would make sense, if not wearing a seat belt caused you to be a higher risk to kill others, not just yourself.

    Better example would be parents who purposely have their kids NOT wear seat belts. It's my right, don't tread on me blah blah. In the end, their decision adversely affected others.

    In countries with socialized medicine, I can see why seat belts and helmets for motorcycles are mandatory. (since the medical system shared by all will bear the brunt of people sustaining much greater injuries)
    All Americans who need Emergency treatment get it regardless of whether or not they have health insurance.

    Who pays for it?

    People who have health insurance and this is only one of the reasons premiums are so high.

    The biggest reason for high premiums is the for profit medical system.

    Britain adopted the US for profit approach not very long ago and now have the worst healthcare system ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    LOL of all the guys that think masks work

    100% mask usage in China and spread uncontrollably through the entire country
    Israel with mandatory masks the last two months and much more strict than USA curve looks like FLA and about to lockdown again
    South Africa with mandatory mask the last two months and record number of cases the last week
    Norway, Finland, Switzerland, New Zealand, Denmark with 0 mask usage and some of the countries with the best results.

    CNN and MSNBC with there 24/7 masks are the cure message is 100% false

    First they said not to wear masks
    Then wear masks
    Then my mask saves you, your mask saves me
    Then your selfish if you dont wear a mask
    Now were going to close back down if you don't wear a mask
    Now need to wear masks outside and in your home
    Now if you want fall sports you need to wear a mask

    It just never ends

    They need to STFU about masks... those of us who are not going to wear them will not be changing our minds any time soon no matter how much they want to guilt us or fine us.
    They didn't say "not to wear masks" they said don't go buy N95 masks as you're taking them from hospital workers who need them more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    LOL of all the guys that think masks work

    100% mask usage in China and spread uncontrollably through the entire country
    Israel with mandatory masks the last two months and much more strict than USA curve looks like FLA and about to lockdown again
    South Africa with mandatory mask the last two months and record number of cases the last week
    Norway, Finland, Switzerland, New Zealand, Denmark with 0 mask usage and some of the countries with the best results.

    CNN and MSNBC with there 24/7 masks are the cure message is 100% false

    First they said not to wear masks
    Then wear masks
    Then my mask saves you, your mask saves me
    Then your selfish if you dont wear a mask
    Now were going to close back down if you don't wear a mask
    Now need to wear masks outside and in your home
    Now if you want fall sports you need to wear a mask

    It just never ends

    They need to STFU about masks... those of us who are not going to wear them will not be changing our minds any time soon no matter how much they want to guilt us or fine us.
    1st sentence and your done.

    China has 83,587 total cases with a population of 1,439,323,776 people and you said it "spread uncontrollably through the entire country"

    Meanwhile the US had 71,787 new cases yesterday for fukks sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    Government doesn't get to tell me what to do.
    They certainly do. Go ahead and continually run red lights. Eventually you'll (assuming you live) lose the ability to legally use the roads with your vehicle. Go ahead and bring a gun through the TSA. Go hunt some game and sell it on the side of the road. Import some toothpaste from china and sell it to schools. Go film some porn with 17 year olds. Got a bunch of land, grow poppies and sell the amazing products you can make from it.

    Gov't representatives will be more than clear to you about some things you can, and cannot do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    Masks lmao
    Y'all some dumb mother fukkers
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    All Americans who need Emergency treatment get it regardless of whether or not they have health insurance.
    That's pretty much everywhere. Most civil societies aren't going to refuse to treat someone who is having a heart attack or whatnot.

    They get treatment in emergency, and then get a bill (assuming they have no insurance). Whether they can pay it or not is another question as a brain injury can run into the millions for costs.

    My point was, if a society has a nationalized health plan, then things like seat belts and helmets are justifiably laws as those who refuse to wear them will invariably have a negative impact on trying to keep costs in line. (as do people who make other poor lifestyle choices, but in the case of those 2, there's a direct line between the act and the cost.)

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    Masks ON!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    He does not look happy.
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    That pretty much shoots his post all to hell.
    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    1st sentence and your done.

    China has 83,587 total cases with a population of 1,439,323,776 people and you said it "spread uncontrollably through the entire country"

    Meanwhile the US had 71,787 new cases yesterday for fukks sake.

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    only cool people wear masks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelewis View Post
    Listen Idiot, you posted that you "fake coughed" during the pandemic, not me....I am a proud American and your weak ass country would be a territory of Russia if it wasn't for US...show some respect....you have to beat the Champ to be the Champ and here in America we are undefeated...we don't lose
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_Guest_Pro View Post
    only cool people wear masks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikelewis View Post
    Listen Idiot, you posted that you "fake coughed" during the pandemic, not me....I am a proud American and your weak ass country would be a territory of Russia if it wasn't for US...show some respect....you have to beat the Champ to be the Champ and here in America we are undefeated...we don't lose
    Lol,where you from Arkansas,Mississippi or Alabama?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrogen View Post
    That's pretty much everywhere. Most civil societies aren't going to refuse to treat someone who is having a heart attack or whatnot.

    They get treatment in emergency, and then get a bill (assuming they have no insurance). Whether they can pay it or not is another question as a brain injury can run into the millions for costs.

    My point was, if a society has a nationalized health plan, then things like seat belts and helmets are justifiably laws as those who refuse to wear them will invariably have a negative impact on trying to keep costs in line. (as do people who make other poor lifestyle choices, but in the case of those 2, there's a direct line between the act and the cost.)
    Agree.

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    In the Vietnam war the North infantrymen had AK 47's while the US had M16's that were good for 3 shots,4 if you're lucky, then it'd jam and you'd have to tear the POS apart and clean it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post
    In the Vietnam war the North infantrymen had AK 47's while the US had M16's that were good for 3 shots,4 if you're lucky, then it'd jam and you'd have to tear the POS apart and clean it.
    Dude, come on

    Between 55-75 3.1 million domestic deaths in Vietnam, of which the US suffered 47,000 deaths.

    The US military kills at the most effective rate in world history. It is a civilian lead military, hence the politicians are weaklings when it comes to wiping opponents off this planet. Which, had we done in '19 or '45 or '73 or '91 we'd be in a much safer and cleaner world, but inevitably you have the liberals and their dovish attitude towards life and reform of enemies so we now to their liberalism and go clean up their mess every generation thereafter.

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