[Buckandadime]

How much value do you place on this bet?

[thomorino]

How much value do you place on this bet?

Get lost dumb shit.

[thomorino]

Yeah because 2nd year and rookie quarterbacks should be putting up HOF #'s..

He's the worst QB in the league statistically dumb shit.

[Buckandadime]

He's the worst QB in the league statistically dumb shit.

3 games makes a season...
I forgot we were doing macaronio math..

[thomorino]

3 games makes a season...
I forgot we were doing macaronio math..

He's been garbage against good defenses for 2 years.

[thomorino]

3 games makes a season...
I forgot we were doing macaronio math..

Dumb shit.

[Buckandadime]

He's been garbage against good defenses for 2 years.

Kind of like your math, huh??

[thomorino]

Kind of like your math, huh??

Get lost dumb shit.

[Buckandadime]

So, you like Hurts to win the Heisman but don't think he is first round worthy??
Say he is invited to the Heisman presentation..
How many draft eligible players invited to the presentation haven't been drafted in the first round?
Not winners because that's an obvious answer but a participant?
Are there any?

[thomorino]

So, you like Hurts to win the Heisman but don't think he is first round worthy??
Say he is invited to the Heisman presentation..
How many draft eligible players invited to the presentation haven't been drafted in the first round?
Not winners because that's an obvious answer but a participant?
Are there any?

There are many Heisman winner who didn't play or weren't good in the NFL. Look at Ware and Tony rice. Get lost.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

There are many Heisman winner who didn't play or weren't good in the NFL. Look at Ware and Tony rice. Get lost.

Tony Rice never won the Heisman.

That said, the list goes on and on in terms of Heisman winners not translating to the NFL.

[Buckandadime]

So, you like Hurts to win the Heisman but don't think he is first round worthy??
Say he is invited to the Heisman presentation..
How many draft eligible players invited to the presentation haven't been drafted in the first round?
Not winners because that's an obvious answer but a participant?
Are there any?

There are many Heisman winner who didn't play or weren't good in the NFL. Look at Ware and Tony rice. Get lost.

That wasn't the question..
As usual a circular answer from you..
BTW; Wasn't Ware the #1 overall pick in the draft?

[thomorino]

Tony Rice never won the Heisman.

That said, the list goes on and on in terms of Heisman winners not translating to the NFL.

There are many Heisman finalists and winners who were not good in the NFL. Don't care.

[thomorino]

That wasn't the question..
As usual a circular answer from you..
BTW; Wasn't Ware the #1 overall pick in the draft?

There are several Heisman winners who were not drafted in the first round, Troy Smith, Eric crouch,Charlie ward.

It is interesting if you look at quarterbacks who have won the Heisman, the overwhelming majority were busts in the NFL.

Leinart
Detmer
Ware
Weinke
White
Tebow
Griffin
Manziel
Mariota
Winston

[thomorino]

That wasn't the question..
As usual a circular answer from you..
BTW; Wasn't Ware the #1 overall pick in the draft?

Yeah if you look at players who win the Heisman or were Heisman finalists that weren't drafted early most were inaccurate passers who were dual threat QBs like hurts in college.

[thomorino]

There are many dual threat QBs who won the Heisman or were Heisman finalists that were not drafted in the first round.

[Buckandadime]

There are several Heisman winners who were not drafted in the first round, Troy Smith, Eric crouch,Charlie ward.

It is interesting if you look at quarterbacks who have won the Heisman, the overwhelming majority were busts in the NFL.

Leinart
Detmer
Ware
Weinke
White
Tebow
Griffin
Manziel
Mariota
Winston

Plenty of.busts..
No.disagreement there..
A lot of GM's (and coaches) have blinders on when it comes to.evaluating .talent and how it could relate to the.nfl..
Out of.all those though, how many were.drafted in the first round?
Quite a lot..
Your list, maybe all..

[thomorino]

Plenty of.busts..
No.disagreement there..
A lot of GM's (and coaches) have blinders on when it comes to.evaluating .talent and how it could relate to the.nfl..
Out of.all those though, how many were.drafted in the first round?
Quite a lot..
Your list, maybe all..

Again dumb one, if you look at dual threat quarterbacks who were finalists or won the Heisman, many were not first round picks.

Crouch, rice, ward, are 3.

[thomorino]

Part of the reason I like this bet too is I think we will see mayfield and Murray get exposed this year as being system quarterbacks not ready for the NFL.

[Buckandadime]

The draft is months........... Months away..
I've seen Hurts projected as high as #12 O/A going to.Indy and a month ago he wasn't even a.blip..

[thomorino]

The draft is months........... Months away..
I've seen Hurts projected as high as #12 O/A going to.Indy and a month ago he wasn't even a.blip..

Indy just signed brisset to an extension.

It's a 24 hour news cycle and the most in the media have attention defi it disorder. Those ridiculous mock drafts just show it's time to sell high. 3 weeks ago many like kiper didn't even have hurts getting drafted and he's played no one with a defense. Everything is fluid.

[thomorino]

The draft is months........... Months away..
I've seen Hurts projected as high as #12 O/A going to.Indy and a month ago he wasn't even a.blip..

A lot can change in 3 months, 3 months before the NFL draft last year Murray wasnt even seen being a first round pick.

[Buckandadime]

Again dumb one, if you look at dual threat quarterbacks who were finalists or won the Heisman, many were not first round picks.

Crouch, rice, ward, are 3.

Can't even act like a man for Just a short moment..

Part of the reason I like this bet too is I think we will see mayfield and Murray get exposed this year as being system quarterbacks not ready for the NFL.

Your an idiot..
Intelligence can adapt in the NFL..

[thomorino]

Can't even act like a man for Just a short moment..

Your an idiot..
Intelligence can adapt in the NFL..

Get lost dumb shit. You are embarassing, you've posted trash hundreds of times in my threads this week.

[Buckandadime]

The dumb shit comes into my thread and tries to argue that Jalen Hurts, one of the most inaccurate quarterbacks in all of college football, is a first round pick. I tell him how stupid he is and challenge him to a bet where the loser leaves the forum and the little shit disappears.

Jalen Hurts is not a first round pick, not even close, he's not even on the draft big board for guys like Kiper right now. The take that Hurts will go in the first round is the one of the dumbest takes I've ever heard.

Tell us why he has the #1 qb rating in D1 ball then if he's one of the.most inaccurate qb's in all of college football..
Do you hear yourself talk?
If so, you must be laughing constantly..

[Buckandadime]

He's the worst QB in the league statistically dumb shit.

[thomorino]

Tell us why he has the #1 qb rating in D1 ball then if he's one of the.most inaccurate qb's in all of college football..
Do you hear yourself talk?
If so, you must be laughing constantly..

Hard to believe someone could be this dumb. He hasn't played a single defense that is too 100. Top 100.

[thomorino]

Get lost dumb shit.

[Buckandadime]

Hard to believe someone could be this dumb. He hasn't played a single defense that is too 100. Top 100.

That's true..
Your claim of Hurts being one of the most inaccurate passers though doesn't compute well to him having the #1 qb rating in D1..
If he's as bad as you say, wouldn't it be lower than #1???
#2 perhaps?

[thomorino]

That's true..
Your claim of Hurts being one of the most inaccurate passers though doesn't compute well to him having the #1 qb rating in D1..
If he's as bad as you say, wouldn't it be lower than #1???
#2 perhaps?

We all watched him with Alabama, we know what he is. Inaccurate.

[Buckandadime]

We all watched him with Alabama, we know what he is. Inaccurate.

42 games..
62.9% completion..
48TD/12Int..
All at Bama..

Inaccurate??

[thomorino]

42 games..
62.9% completion..
48TD/12Int..
All at Bama..

Inaccurate??

Again look at his numbers against good defenses, he couldnt complete a pass in the first half against Georgia in the national championship game, that why he was benched. Alabama plays a lot of garbage teams each year.

[Buckandadime]

Again look at his numbers against good defenses, he couldnt complete a pass in the first half against Georgia in the national championship game, that why he was benched. Alabama plays a lot of garbage teams each year.

He was 3/8 that game..
Next year they played Georgia and he was 7/9..

[Eddy Munny]

Whether or not Jalen Hurts warrants a first round price tag or actually goes in the first round are two completely different takes because NFL GM's apparently have no discernment when it comes to quarterbacks. I've seen a lot of trash go in the first round. The list is a long one and Jalen Hurts certainly wouldn't be the worst among them.

[Buckandadime]

The dumb shit comes into my thread and tries to argue that Jalen Hurts, one of the most inaccurate quarterbacks in all of college football, is a first round pick. I tell him how stupid he is and challenge him to a bet where the loser leaves the forum and the little shit disappears.

Jalen Hurts is not a first round pick, not even close, he's not even on the draft big board for guys like Kiper right now. The take that Hurts will go in the first round is the one of the dumbest takes I've ever heard.