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What Happened To Men Being Men And Making Sacrifices?
What happened to getting married, working hard, providing, having kids, being strict but your family still knows youre there for them days? Im talking about being 30 and being respected and being faithful to one woman forever? Seems like men act like boys and are scared to grow up so they wear comic t shirts and mock marriages and family and they dont make personal sacrifices for the other
yeah some guys are smart enough at a young enough age that they know they don't want to be tied down by a wife, kids, etc all pretty much dictating what you do 90% of the year
some guys are smart enough not to have kids when they know they aren't ready mentally/financially/etc to be a father and or/stay on top of all the financial requirements that comes with having a kid
doesn't mean they dress like Sheldon and play a ton of video games, don't know how to be social
In America it happened the day we realized we had the freedom to do whatever the penetrate we wanted and not care whatever the penetrate you think about us.
I'm just wondering whatever happened to all the men who stopped doing whatever they wanted and needed to do to make the best life for themselves just because someone on the internet told them to make "sacrifices". Why did you let that happen to you?
Fixed itOriginally Posted by 5mike5
lakerboy take over seaweeds account tonight
The laws punish men and reward women. Thats why. Women arent living up to their end of the social contract yet demand special privileges.
White women are undermining their own men by voting to flood the country with dumb aggressive brown people. Its why women werent allowed to vote throughout history.
I decided in my 20's that I wanted to retire by 50. I was able to do it at 49. No kids is the key. Or I guess I should say it was MY key. Your mileage may differ.
I’m going to be that man soon, Weeder. I don’t need anything in my life except to be with the woman that I love. She will have our baby, and I’ll work to take care of all of them. Including the two kiddos she already has. I’m fine with my busting my ass everyday to take care of the wife and kids. We may not end up living in a big house, but we will have a roof over our head and food on the table.
He's obviously at it again.... cue the f'n haiku, in traditional Japanese 5-7-5 syllable format:
What happened to the last guy?
That is going to be you one day.
She's not your's, it's just your turn.
Ouch be easy man kinda overstepped there. You can’t say what his situation is.
weeders off the deep end
It is common knowledge that marriage is an incredibly bad deal for men.
90% of divorces are initiated by the women.
She can call the police and have you arrested any time she wants.
Your kids are not yours, they belong to the woman and the state.
If anything I'm helping this guy to realize what he is getting into.
Anyone seeking more information on this topic should read the book "the predatory female".
Dont get sucked up into the marriage mill.
Date women, have fun with them but don't ever marry them.
Its simply a horrible one sided deal for men that is incredibly -EV
canadians are weird
Would you jump out of a plane if your parachute worked 50% of the time?
The liberalization of women has destroyed the idea of family and a mans life and finances are taken away by the courts if she opts to leave.
If you get married before 40 you're fukked
This guy gets it.
Are you or have you ever been married fatty?
You seem to have nice things and be fairly successful in life.
Men do it to themselves. Can't blame women for men being too stupid about certain things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenuptial_agreement
Married at 25, she left me when my 1st set of businesses collapsed during the recession...like a rat off a ship.
Made it all back and then some in under 4 years, and she actually went to court to assert a spousal maintenance claim. I couldn't believe it....court denied, but I had my life in the hands of a judge basically, nothing I could control.
Watched my mother put my father in an early grave w spousal maintenance and playing the "not living with a new guy/ not remarried" game to keep the money coming in, even after he had a massive stroke and couldn't work.
Never put your future in the hands of a judge or jury....way too risky.
Q. What is marriage?
A. Marriage is a contract between three
parties, traditionally a man, a woman, and
the state. The state reserves the right to
change the conditions and obligations of the
contract without permission from the other
two parties. The ingredients of the contract
are fragmented into both statutory and case
law. The contractual agreement with the state
is rather nasty and one sided, designed to pro-
tect the female and her children. It gives herrights to her husband's finances, property,
and future earnings. It provides her with
leverage to have him placed under restraining
orders, evicted from his home, or subjected to
garnishment of his wages. She may institute
proceedings to have him committed to a men-
tal institution. Community property laws give
her rights to his retirement.
Q. What about premarital contracts?
A. We live in the "land of writs and torts."
It's a society teeming with greedy attorneys
who make enormous sums of money encour-
aging marriage (a contract) and writing addi-
tional contracts as codicils (prenuptial
agreements). Attorneys are happy to sell you a
premarital or prenuptial agreement, and even
happier to bill you for its defense. Every mar-
ried couple has a contract with the state.
Some have added these additional agreements
of their own. A judge may uphold or set aside
provisions of the contracts as he sees fit.
This is an expensive process and can be very
emotional. It is not fun. A pre-marital con-
tract may be voided if it is contrary to the
public interest, written in anticipation of a
divorce, or improperly constructed. Parties
relinquishing something must be given con-
sideration. That means money. At best, a
pre-marital contract is a sticky wicket. None-
theless, they are highly recommended if you
are determined to involve yourself in these
proceedings.
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Even still they dont regulate child support issues.
Woman could bail, take the kid, and if you're successful and pulling in $300-$400k year shes still going to get $125k/ yr and get to bang loser dudes w man buns
Stop being such a victim and take ownership over your life: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasectomy
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The doctor will turn you away if you have never had kids.
It’s all good. I’ve already heard it all from everyone I know. Brick just trying to help, but I have it all under control. Been friends with this girl for well over a decade. There’s no fake or phony shit going on between us. If we don’t work out, then one of us will say it.
Bullshitte. I had one when I was 18. Best fukking decision I ever made. Pun intended.
Haha , no they wont .
I have several friends with no kids yet had it done .
Q. It really frosts me to see my ex-wife living
regally, sometimes with other men, in the
home I was evicted from, while I have to exist
in a sleazy apartment with rented furniture,
overlooking the freeway, next door to three
families of illegal aliens, and directly above a
noisy Dempsey dumpster.
A. Wait until your kids inform you that her
new boyfriend is overhauling his Harley
Davidson "fat bob" in the living room.
I think OP brings up a good subject. Unless one is delusional it is easy to see that America is a dying nation, seems to me he only wants to revive the soon to be shit-hole.
Good luck gentlemen, I have been seeing it and saying it for three decades - this is no place for children.
oh, and there are some smart, caring men here that are doing their Mothers and society Justice that I`ll not name, as for now I am an outcast and do not want to draw anyone in
No fukkin way pal lol
Good to see how many guys are red-pilled these days.
This was always the inevitable result of society-wide feminization.
There's good and bad aspects. For a guy, the good part is that with decent skills, you can bang dozens/hundreds of women, for as long as you want, and never commit to any. Just churn, rinse, and repeat. It only gets better as you pass 30, and you accumulate more status and leverage. The downside for guys is that women have far more options than ever before - birth control/abortion means sex is not risky for them (therefore monogamy and loyalty is, realistically, out the window), and dating apps like tinder give average women massive leverage, allowing them all to chase after the same top-tier guys. As a result, most men find the deck stacked against them, and even the marriage minded ones have very little assurance of ever having a stable home and family. If you choose to marry, your wife can (and probably will) eventually divorce you, taking both your money and kids.
For women, the good news is that they get to be financially independent from their partner, and get to bang tons of dudes when they are in their 20's, with no concern of pregnancy. And the slanted tinder economy means that women who are 6's can routinely bang guys who are 9's, giving them tons of emotional validation in the form of attention. The downside doesn't hit them until later, when they realize that most of those guys are not really interested in marrying (why bother when you are already banging her or even living together). Many women hit 30 and realize there's no prince charming waiting to bail them out, and they just continue to be used for sex by guys who don't have much interest in commitment. She wants a guy to 'step up' and marry her at that point, and is completely baffled that guys don't jump at the 'opportunity'. One of the saddest things I've seen is when women are honestly surprised that guys don't factor in the career they've slaved away in, and are genuinely shocked to learn that guys pretty much exclusively prioritize attractiveness and youth and DGAF about the fact that you are an accountant or whatever. As their fertility declines and they remain alone, they generally go crazy and begin ranting more and more about politics and socialism. It's very pathetic to see.
Overall its a pretty awful deal for everyone, since tons of guys in the 4-6 range don't have any success at all (at least until they hit 30), and many women wind up frustrated and unhappy, as they've been lied to their whole lives and believe they deserve this weird fairy tale ending. No one has ever told them the truth that their market value plummets after 30, and that the 'liberated' sex life they enjoyed in their 20s ultimately works against them if enough guys stop participating with the marriage contract. The biggest winners are the guys at the top that play the game to win (hint - be one of those guys).
The downside for everyone, of course, is a non-functioning society that comes apart at the seams, with no cohesion and family/community structure. Eventually this will result in total social decay.
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My daughter tried to get fixed after having my grandson and was told
either their policy or law was she had to be 26 or have 2 kids or medical reason If I recall.
Great thoughts/post.
we have already come apart at the seams and are living on/surviving on ink
to mark ourselves and print cash
woohoo
America - greatest con-job going
NWO is going to take most of you by surprise when it slaps you in the face and takes your gambling winnings/account and get this
property
my gov`t knows I`ll be dead before then so I can write these things
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