[b1slickguy]

Cobain got the notoriety for the grunge movement, but Andrew Wood (Malfunkshun and Mother Love Bone) is the true godfather of Seattle grunge. Check out the compilation album Deep Six and members of the bands on it. Great story in itself.

[Cuse0323]

Overrated.

[unlearn]

Nevermind, Batmotorfinger, Facelift and Ten were among the first CDs I ever owned back when you had Columbia House and BMG with the buy 1 get 10 for a penny deal.

Interesting note:
Layne Staley died on the same day 8 years later.

[slayer14]

[thechaoz]

Best music video ever. That album was the epitome of Nirvana and he knew it. In Utero would never be topped.

[thechaoz]

Overrated.

Just like non pros opinions

[pablo222]

Nirvana was great band. But i think they are a little overrated. I will share my story of when i heard he died.
We had a half day from school for whatever reason, and me and four buddies were having an all day one on one basketball tournament while listening to the classic rock station. When the anouncement came over the radio, my buddy started crying. I busted out laughing that he was crying like a close family member had passed. I feel a little bad for being a D!ck but I guess I will always remeber where I was when I heard the news.

[JIBBBY]

Nirvana experience. Seattle Grunge.. What I remember back then -

It was a different time and a new sound in the main stream music scene.. Nirvana hit the MTV videos and blew up. It wasn't rock sounding really, not heavy metal either.. Somewhere in between. Just a slow beat and rhythm type rock sound with a rock sounding voice singer.. I liked it..

Before my music time were The Doors also that blasted on the music scene with a new sound also.. Their slow blues and rock beat sound with the organ play was revolutionary and original in sense I think..

Doors and Nirvana both were new sounds that hit the charts and both lead singers died early in life and on drugs..

Elvis stretched into his 40's and on drugs, Michael Jackson and Prince to their 50's and on drugs too..

It makes you step back and go hmmmm? Do ya really wanna be a famous? Becareful for what you wish for...

I think it's the fame and riches that leads to isolation and drug abuse that eventually kills them all.. They get high grade drugs too, the best. That's not a good thing, you get addicted on the good stuff.. Become lonely, but you're famous, rich and addicted and on top. Not good for some people, especially the young people!!!!!

Better have your feet on solid ground morally to give that a try IMO.. Tough life in my opinion.. You do get your name in the record books though.. Something to be said about that!!!

[Auto Donk]

still listen to nirvana all the time while playin pokerl....

few of my favs:

[The Kraken]

They were original and not many bands ever get to say that. Anything but overrated.

[HurryUpAndDrink]

One of the best bands ever, period. Live, they were usually hit or miss.

I have done lots of research and there is no doubt in my mind Kurt Cobain was murdered.

[slayer14]

[Bluehorseshoe]

still listen to nirvana all the time while playin pokerl....

few of my favs:

Live version is better....

[JohnGalt2341]

One of the best bands ever, period. Live, they were usually hit or miss.

I have done lots of research and there is no doubt in my mind Kurt Cobain was murdered.

For a long time I felt that Courtney Love killed Kurt. I still sort of do. What do you think?

[Bluehorseshoe]

For a long time I felt that Courtney Love killed Kurt. I still sort of do. What do you think?

100% she did. Who leaves their spouse alone after he tried to kill himself months before?

[The Kraken]

He was so fukked up on drugs and struggled with depression, i kinda feel he offed himself

Occams razor

At this point we’ll never know

[HurryUpAndDrink]

For a long time I felt that Courtney Love killed Kurt. I still sort of do. What do you think?

Also-fuckin-lutely she had it done, she did not do it personally but... she had someone else do it. Lots of shady things.

I am making a documentary myself about the murders of Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington, and Tom Grant is a consultant, as you know he was hired by Courtney to look for Kurt just to have him suspecting from her.

*No fingerprints on the shotgun, no gloves on Cobain.
*Shells disposed on the other side, pointing the gun was shot by someone else.
*Heroin overdose of over 3 times the lethal dose, instant nodding expected due to it.
*Courtney making up stories for the press, victimizing herself and pushing the notion he was suicidal.
*The overdose in Rome was not a suicide attempt, it was a murder attempt by Courtney that didn't work.
*Rosemary Carrol, their lawyer, states Kurt was divorcing and leaving Courtney and Nirvana, requested a change in his will.
*Rosemary also found some "test sheets" on Courtney's backpack where she was trying to mimic Kurt's handwriting.
*The suicide letter itself is only made out to be one by the last added paragraph in which the writing mimics the test sheets found.
*Eldon Hoke, was offered $30,000 by Courtney to kill Kurt, he didn't pull through, a week after this statement, he dies ran over by a train.
*Courtney maintained a friendship and SEXUAL INTERCOURSE with not only the coroner but also the Seattle PD detective in charge.
*Cali DeWitt, Frances nanny was supposed to be in the house when Kurt died, yet he never bumped into him. He receives $ from Courtney.
*Kristin Pfaff, Hole's bassist. dies of an overdose after leaving the band and 1 day before moving back home. No one leaves Courtney.

Thats just of the top of my head, I could list 30 items.

If you are interested, this documentary is pretty extensive, has some cuts from Soaked in Bleach and some added material from another researcher... it's very well done

[Auto Donk]

Live version is better....

never cared for that back up pat smear coming on and lurking around on stage, makin' sure kurt's H problem was "covered".....

1991-92 live versions are better, as I don't have to see smear gettin' in the way:

[JohnGalt2341]

Also-fuckin-lutely she had it done, she did not do it personally but... she had someone else do it. Lots of shady things.

I am making a documentary myself about the murders of Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington, and Tom Grant is a consultant, as you know he was hired by Courtney to look for Kurt just to have him suspecting from her.

*No fingerprints on the shotgun, no gloves on Cobain.
*Shells disposed on the other side, pointing the gun was shot by someone else.
*Heroin overdose of over 3 times the lethal dose, instant nodding expected due to it.
*Courtney making up stories for the press, victimizing herself and pushing the notion he was suicidal.
*The overdose in Rome was not a suicide attempt, it was a murder attempt by Courtney that didn't work.
*Rosemary Carrol, their lawyer, states Kurt was divorcing and leaving Courtney and Nirvana, requested a change in his will.
*Rosemary also found some "test sheets" on Courtney's backpack where she was trying to mimic Kurt's handwriting.
*The suicide letter itself is only made out to be one by the last added paragraph in which the writing mimics the test sheets found.
*Eldon Hoke, was offered $30,000 by Courtney to kill Kurt, he didn't pull through, a week after this statement, he dies ran over by a train.
*Courtney maintained a friendship and SEXUAL INTERCOURSE with not only the coroner but also the Seattle PD detective in charge.
*Cali DeWitt, Frances nanny was supposed to be in the house when Kurt died, yet he never bumped into him. He receives $ from Courtney.
*Kristin Pfaff, Hole's bassist. dies of an overdose after leaving the band and 1 day before moving back home. No one leaves Courtney.

Thats just of the top of my head, I could list 30 items.

If you are interested, this documentary is pretty extensive, has some cuts from Soaked in Bleach and some added material from another researcher... it's very well done

I didn't know about most of that. I just had a gut feeling mostly. When she read his suicide note it just seemed phony to me and I felt like she had something to hide. After reading your post it looks totally undeniable. How come she was never charged?

[HurryUpAndDrink]

I didn't know about most of that. I just had a gut feeling mostly. When she read his suicide note it just seemed phony to me and I felt like she had something to hide. After reading your post it looks totally undeniable. How come she was never charged?

Corrupt and inefficient law enforcement + coroner practicing the autopsy

For Seattle PD it was a slam dunk case when it shouldn't have been, same with Chris Cornell, declared as SUICIDE in less than 24 hours and without the medical/chemical results to back it up.

Once the inconsistencies began to be made public (mainly during Nick Broomfield's documentary "Kurt and Courtney" in 1997) the case had been closed for 3 years, and people don't know this but Seattle PD would have been sued and torched if they backtracked because of the immense amount of copycat suicides of kids losing hope cause their idol did. It's very sad.

The documentary I posted clears all that... murdering a drug addict grunge rock star who sings about being depressed and disenfranchised and staging it as suicide is one of the easiest crimes. It's expected and it added to the folklore. Sadly, for the worst.

That said since Kurt was leaving Nirvana and Courtney, is not that farfetched to think Courtney had David Geffen's blessing to off Kurt, for monetary AND PAYBACK REASONS: For the most part, the band kept censorship of the cover at bay. Some reports say Cobain insisted any censorship be accompanied by the following message: “If you’re offended by this, you must be a closet pedophile.”

This was his reply when David Geffen (CEO of GEFFEN records, who is a rumored rapist pedophile and human trafficker) wanted to boycott Kurt's chosen picture for the Nevermind cover. Geffen was involved in the murder of Michael Jackson and Chris Cornell as well. It is well known Geffen is one of the heads of the so-called Velvet or "Gay" mafia that runs Hollywood... he is involved in much shady stuff and has no qualms about getting people offed... just like Tom King, the writer of his autobiography. Geffen is worth $7.8 BILLION... he can grease and buy almost anyone... Kurt WAS WORTH MORE DEAD, THAN LEAVING NIRVANA AND BEING ALIVE. His suicide propelled him into legendary status and the number of records sold was unbelievable.

[maggiethebestdog]

I don't care who killed him
I am just glad I didn't have to listen to his untalented shit garbage he called music anymore
Same goes for Cornell

[VeggieDog]

[mikejamm]

Corrupt and inefficient law enforcement + coroner practicing the autopsy

For Seattle PD it was a slam dunk case when it shouldn't have been, same with Chris Cornell, declared as SUICIDE in less than 24 hours and without the medical/chemical results to back it up.

Once the inconsistencies began to be made public (mainly during Nick Broomfield's documentary "Kurt and Courtney" in 1997) the case had been closed for 3 years, and people don't know this but Seattle PD would have been sued and torched if they backtracked because of the immense amount of copycat suicides of kids losing hope cause their idol did. It's very sad.

The documentary I posted clears all that... murdering a drug addict grunge rock star who sings about being depressed and disenfranchised and staging it as suicide is one of the easiest crimes. It's expected and it added to the folklore. Sadly, for the worst.

That said since Kurt was leaving Nirvana and Courtney, is not that farfetched to think Courtney had David Geffen's blessing to off Kurt, for monetary AND PAYBACK REASONS: For the most part, the band kept censorship of the cover at bay. Some reports say Cobain insisted any censorship be accompanied by the following message: “If you’re offended by this, you must be a closet pedophile.”

This was his reply when David Geffen (CEO of GEFFEN records, who is a rumored rapist pedophile and human trafficker) wanted to boycott Kurt's chosen picture for the Nevermind cover. Geffen was involved in the murder of Michael Jackson and Chris Cornell as well. It is well known Geffen is one of the heads of the so-called Velvet or "Gay" mafia that runs Hollywood... he is involved in much shady stuff and has no qualms about getting people offed... just like Tom King, the writer of his autobiography. Geffen is worth $7.8 BILLION... he can grease and buy almost anyone... Kurt WAS WORTH MORE DEAD, THAN LEAVING NIRVANA AND BEING ALIVE. His suicide propelled him into legendary status and the number of records sold was unbelievable.

You are so fuk'in full of shit, it's unreal. Stop believing every phony bullshit conspiracy you read on the internet. You have no proof to any of your stupid copied and re-posted claims that you believe from a fuk'in phony video. Read the real police report and the evidence speaks for itself. He was a depressed junkie who blew his head off.

[HurryUpAndDrink]

You are so fuk'in full of shit, it's unreal. Stop believing every phony bullshit conspiracy you read on the internet. You have no proof to any of your stupid copied and re-posted claims that you believe from a fuk'in phony video. Read the real police report and the evidence speaks for itself. He was a depressed junkie who blew his head off.

LOL, so the interview with the former Seattle PD Sargeant stating they rushed the investigation and that he thinks there are enough inconsistencies to reopen the case immediately as a murder investigation don't matter?

So you are basically saying I should take your unqualified biased hater-driven opinion over those opinions of highly decorated law enforcement officers and medical forensic experts? yeah sure, gimme 2 secs delusional asshole.

Truth is the average low IQ citizen (such as yourself) is trained and programmed to trust police and police reports, nah, they are never on the take, there has never been corruption cases involving law enforcement what a stupid piece of wanker you are... a fuckin square trying to pretend he is still hip but you couldn't be more boring and establishment if you tried. You are cattle, I don't know if there was ever an ounce of rebellion on your body but I guess that went limb like your dick, bummer for you, there is no viagra for the soul you walking dead ************.


CUI BONO? Motherfukker!


OPTION 1)A disgruntled Cobain leaves Love and Geffen with zero $$$... and Love's reputation is destroyed coinciding with her record release, the ugly details of the divorce are made public by Cobain and Love suffers a PR backlash her career will never recover from...

OR

OPTION 2)She has him killed, as she never loved him in the 1st place and as she always planned to marry a rich/famous man and take him for everything he had, she literally wrote a step by step plan to do this on her diary JESUS-FUCKIN-CHRIST.

She offs him and secures over $1 BILLION in future royalties.


I'll go with option 2, when even Courtney Love's father thinks she had him murdered, people should listen. Kurt's own grandpa, Leland Cobain thinks the same thing.

The truth is out there for those not lazy and not mediocre enough to conform with the bullshit mainstream version, if you suck at being social, you are probably a lazy sheeple too.

[PittsburghPlayer]

damn Hurry, you can write. Really, you have abilities and redeeming qualities if my opinion matters, and it does as yours deserves consideration, or we would have never said hello or to told one another to go fukk themselves.

anywho, the price for stardom is maybe higher than the price of freedom, as stardom is a choice - freedom a necessity

today like many, I am remembering John Wetton of Roxy Music, King Crimson, UK, Asia and a few others
and the men of their generation
and many men/women that are still alive like Robbie Robertson, men/women that write and sing for Justice

[maggiethebestdog]

A reliable source has told me that Courtney Love was the shooter on the grassy knoll in the JFK assassination

True story
I might write a book about it

[HurryUpAndDrink]

damn Hurry, you can write. Really, you have abilities and redeeming qualities if my opinion matters, and it does as yours deserves consideration, or we would have never said hello or to told one another to go fukk themselves.

anywho, the price for stardom is maybe higher than the price of freedom, as stardom is a choice - freedom a necessity

today like many, I am remembering John Wetton of Roxy Music, King Crimson, UK, Asia and a few others
and the men of their generation
and many men/women that are still alive like Robbie Robertson, men/women that write and sing for Justice

All good man, and thanks... been working on my writing for the last year and I think there has been some improvement.

To reach that level of stardom, there are a lot of things that are compromised, your humanity for one. Kurt loved playing music and having the creative control he had, managers and the record label had to basically yield almost always with him... but he was ambitious and proud, this image the media sold about this depressed Kurt wallowing on his problems is bullshit... King Buzzo from the Melvins said it himself, remember Kurt was a roadie for the Melvins and the drummer for the band was the drummer for Nirvana on the early days.

Truth is, Courtney is a very vicious and ruthless snake... she has always been and most people who have interacted with her have the same opinion, at least those who she wasn't able to threaten or murder into silence...


Women kill or cheat men out of their money and marriage all the time, and we are not talking $1 billion, women do this for much less.

Courtney is very capable of this, she has all the red flags... the bitch is a fuckin oyster for gods sakes... but people want Cobain to be suicidal so bad, either out of hate or out of musical mythology we won't let ourselves see Courtney for what she truly is and was, and STD filled sewer-mouth gold digging skank, who actually stabbed one of her classmates while on juvie and who has threatened more people than people can count...

[PittsburghPlayer]

alright Hurry, you and I are cool until the end

something positive just came from the death of Curt Cobain 25 years later

Says everything!

[JIBBBY]

The dude was mental and a total drug attick, hooked on heroin with Courtney Love. Total loser in life if he didn't have his music..

Even back then I wasn't shocked he took his own life.. His chick was trash and garbage looking to.. Freaks..

[DABOOK]

I watched all the documentaries and YouTube vids. Just like you. All signs point to Courtney paid someone to do it. Where there is smoke. Most of Kurt s friends didn’t believe he was suicidal after his daughters birth . The note he supposedly left was a total farce. Anyone that looked at that can see kurts writing at the top doesn’t seem like he is killing himself. Then at the bottom in clearly different writing style he does.

[TheMoneyShot]

He was a depressed junkie who blew his head off.

It blows my mind how famous a band or musician can be.... and you're depressed? You have women throwing their boobs and snatch in front of you... just dying to be fukked by famous musicians... and you are depressed? Wow.

My brother in his younger years was a musician.... and he told me endless stories of how many broads he fukked.

Cobain must of been high or coming down when he killed himself. Unreal the talent he had.

[HurryUpAndDrink]

It blows my mind how famous a band or musician can be.... and you're depressed? You have women throwing their boobs and snatch in front of you... just dying to be fukked by famous musicians... and you are depressed? Wow.

My brother in his younger years was a musician.... and he told me endless stories of how many broads he fukked.

Cobain must of been high or coming down when he killed himself. Unreal the talent he had.

He DIDNT KILL himself, end of story, watch this short one

[HurryUpAndDrink]

I watched all the documentaries and YouTube vids. Just like you. All signs point to Courtney paid someone to do it. Where there is smoke. Most of Kurt s friends didn’t believe he was suicidal after his daughters birth . The note he supposedly left was a total farce. Anyone that looked at that can see kurts writing at the top doesn’t seem like he is killing himself. Then at the bottom in clearly different writing style he does.

yep, you are on the right side of history

is very sad how 90% of trhe population chose to believe the drug addicted skank Courtney, and people bash Kurt as a pussy "for killing himself"... when he was killed

Its a fuckin tragedy and it pisses me off

[BeatTheJerk]

100% incorrect

He was a Grunge era Legend Brock & I loved his black soul, but the guy even said it himself the motivation to become a millionaire was to be a full blown “junkie” for the rest of his life. JJ is right, at the end of the day he was a bleeping junkie.

[HurryUpAndDrink]