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    Young Silver Medal Cyclist girl commits suicide says F it


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    No help for mental illness worldwide

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    Suicide, she quit.. No sympathy here.. I understand depression too from a severe concussion I got. It's a living hell!!

    Seek help, don't give up on life, even take your meds if necessary if you absolutely in need of them. Find God and work from there. Best of all stay sober and keep up the cardio..

    It's surprising to me when athletes commit suicide because they are working out daily and releasing those important endorphins.

    Next....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Suicide, she quit.. No sympathy here.. I understand depression too from a severe concussion I got. It's a living hell!!

    Seek help, don't give up on life, even take your meds if necessary if you absolutely in need of them. Find God and work from there. Best of all stay sober and keep up the cardio..

    It's surprising to me when athletes commit suicide because they are working out daily and releasing those important endorphins.

    Next....
    So by your statement there should be sympathy.

    You know there's a massive difference between being depressed and having full time depression?

    Nobody in the world wants to kill themselves, and they have the "balls" to actually go through with it is on a whole other level.

    RIP.

    Edit: God? Lol ... I surely hope you're joking. They are already dealing with mental health issues, the don't need more insane dillusions in their head.

    That's still a thing in 2019? Wow

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    She had attempted suicide a month ago too. She told her brother she was frustrated about the failed attempt. Had to be hospitalized for the attempt too. Had an email auto send to her parents after the attempt. A lot of warning signs she could try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechaoz View Post
    So by your statement there should be sympathy.

    You know there's a massive difference between being depressed and having full time depression?

    Nobody in the world wants to kill themselves, and they have the "balls" to actually go through with it is on a whole other level.

    RIP.

    Edit: God? Lol ... I surely hope you're joking. They are already dealing with mental health issues, the don't need more insane dillusions in their head.

    That's still a thing in 2019? Wow
    I had full depression for a month.. I wanted to end my life.. NO LIE.. I just knew things would get better and they did.. If they didn't I would have gotten help.. I literally laid in my bed for a month after slamming my head on solid concrete..

    I didn't know for sure if I'd get better but even in my deepest depression I would never give up and take my own life to escape it..

    Everyone is built different though...

    I've known mentally ill people, hearing voices in their heads constantly, talking to themselves, etc.. it was mostly all brought on by hard drug use and a poor diet. Lack of sleep. That's keeping it real..

    It's not a disease in most cases, it's brought on by the individuals poor life styles and choices made in life..

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    I agree with all you said chaoz.
    Quote Originally Posted by thechaoz View Post
    So by your statement there should be sympathy.I

    You know there's a massive difference between being depressed and having full time depression?

    Nobody in the world wants to kill themselves, and they have the "balls" to actually go through with it is on a whole other level.

    RIP.

    Edit: God? Lol ... I surely hope you're joking. They are already dealing with mental health issues, the don't need more insane dillusions in their head.

    That's still a thing in 2019? Wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I had full depression for a month.. I wanted to end my life.. NO LIE.. I just knew things would get better and they did.. If they didn't I would have gotten help.. I literally laid in my bed for a month after slamming my head on solid concrete..

    I didn't know for sure if I'd get better but even in my deepest depression I would never give up and take my own life to escape it..

    Everyone is built different though...

    I've known mentally ill people, hearing voices in their heads constantly, talking to themselves, etc.. it was mostly all brought on by hard drug use and a poor diet. Lack of sleep. That's keeping it real..

    It's not a disease in most cases, it's brought on by the individuals poor life styles and choices made in life..
    I think by saying "I just knew things would get better and they did" is what would separate you from someone with clinical depression. From what I understand from a few I've known who have suffered from this, they never think things will get better. They don't have that little voice of reason in the back of their head telling them that if they just get through this patch everything will eventually be ok. That's why they see no hope for the future no matter how outwardly successful or together they may appear. And now they're looking at whether her concussions contributed to CTE just as it has to many NFL players. Apparently that triggers severe depression also. Very sad for such a young woman and her family.

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    So sad 😞

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Suicide, she quit.. No sympathy here.. I understand depression too from a severe concussion I got. It's a living hell!!

    Seek help, don't give up on life, even take your meds if necessary if you absolutely in need of them. Find God and work from there. Best of all stay sober and keep up the cardio..

    It's surprising to me when athletes commit suicide because they are working out daily and releasing those important endorphins.

    Next....
    Unreal
    What an uneducated jackass you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I had full depression for a month.. I wanted to end my life.. NO LIE.. I just knew things would get better and they did.. If they didn't I would have gotten help.. I literally laid in my bed for a month after slamming my head on solid concrete..

    I didn't know for sure if I'd get better but even in my deepest depression I would never give up and take my own life to escape it..

    Everyone is built different though...

    I've known mentally ill people, hearing voices in their heads constantly, talking to themselves, etc.. it was mostly all brought on by hard drug use and a poor diet. Lack of sleep. That's keeping it real..

    It's not a disease in most cases, it's brought on by the individuals poor life styles and choices made in life..

    Once again, what an ignorant, narcissistic, uneducated asswipe you are

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    very sad

    i didn't click through. is there some underlying mental health issue here? i mean, before depression.... OCD? bi-polar?

    i remember reading about Go Daddy CEO (i think) and a turning point in his life being at a very expensive Hawaiian resort. he saw that the 55 year old poor shuttle bus driver was a very happy person and he, worth $500MM or more, was not. made him think about life

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I've known mentally ill people, hearing voices in their heads constantly, talking to themselves, etc.. it was mostly all brought on by hard drug use and a poor diet. Lack of sleep. That's keeping it real..
    i've seen this too......... is it permanent though? i assumed no more hard drug use and it clears up

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    I think by saying "I just knew things would get better and they did" is what would separate you from someone with clinical depression. From what I understand from a few I've known who have suffered from this, they never think things will get better. They don't have that little voice of reason in the back of their head telling them that if they just get through this patch everything will eventually be ok. That's why they see no hope for the future no matter how outwardly successful or together they may appear. And now they're looking at whether her concussions contributed to CTE just as it has to many NFL players. Apparently that triggers severe depression also. Very sad for such a young woman and her family.
    This is true

    Depression isn't something you can reason your way out of. You can't really take a step back and think of things objectively. Probably didn't help that this girl was most likely a lesbian too.

    I don't buy the whole CTE thing though. Yeah maybe repeated head injuries are a problem but if having a bad concussion or two caused suicidal tendencies half the male population would have tried to kill themselves by their senior year in high school.

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    she did the right thing.....

    go gold or go home....

    silver medals are for losers

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Suicide, she quit.. No sympathy here.. I understand depression too from a severe concussion I got. It's a living hell!!

    Seek help, don't give up on life, even take your meds if necessary if you absolutely in need of them. Find God and work from there. Best of all stay sober and keep up the cardio..

    It's surprising to me when athletes commit suicide because they are working out daily and releasing those important endorphins.

    Next....
    I have heard that from people my whole life... "she quit" or "that is the easy way out". I think you need to rethink things seriously. I have two two very awesome young men (18 and 19) brothers commit suicide. They were childhood friends of my sons when they were younger. They gave signs and the adults around them at the time did not care to listen. Be a compassionate person when it comes to this stuff... when it strikes close to you, trust me you will not be such a hardass about it. You definitely do not want to be the person that realizes maybe you should have listened and taken more action. real life shit that will instantly make you a crazy person if you have any conscience at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer14 View Post
    No help for mental illness worldwide
    There is no easy answer for this. Actually not sure there is a practical answer. When people ask for help yeah that is the easy part. But spotting it and them intervening is two almost impossible things to do in reality. Tough to spot with certainty and also tough to convince or submit any person to something they do not accept. Media and politicians talk about it all the time as if they think they could do better, but they cannot.

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    I will say one more thing about suicide... I have never bought the party line that suicide = mental disease. That is a label that is a bit of a copout so that all of us living people can wash ourselves clean of shame and responsibility. I will submit to you that there is not a single person alive today or reading this that has not thought about suicide to some extent at some point in their life. Infinite shades of grey as to how much you thought about it... or how much you might have planned or come close... but I think this is true. Does that mean we all have mental illness to some degree? Nope. People take their lives when they no longer see any hope. There is no disease involved there... just lack of perspective. Sometimes it is simply true - there is no hope. That is a sad fact but if your life really sucks and you are totally convinced there is no way to find a better place, you will do the deed.

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    Suicide is VERY COMMON in Asian cultures... shame does it. It is to a large extent expected and accepted. You screw up to your family or to your employer in a major way... you need to take care of it yourself. It is expected. Sad but true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thechaoz View Post
    So by your statement there should be sympathy.

    You know there's a massive difference between being depressed and having full time depression?

    Nobody in the world wants to kill themselves, and they have the "balls" to actually go through with it is on a whole other level.

    RIP.

    Edit: God? Lol ... I surely hope you're joking. They are already dealing with mental health issues, the don't need more insane dillusions in their head.

    That's still a thing in 2019? Wow
    Hard agree

    Especially hate when people say suicide's the cowards way out. You realize how goddamn hard-wired the survival instinct is in humans? Then they want to act like fighting that off and killing yourself is somehow "easy" or "cowardly"? Give me a break. The very fact that people do it should be enough to tell you how extreme and debilitating depression can be and what it does to the mind

    And all that "I've been depressed too but I faced it like a man" crap can get right out of here too. Surprise, not all feelings/chemical imbalances are created equal. Besides, I'm sure at least half the people who say that haven't experienced legitimate clinical depression. It's not the same as just feeling sad or bummed out by your situation
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    Have you seen the movie, " Sea of Trees " w/ Matthew McConaughey ? It's on Netflix

    Quote Originally Posted by flipacoin9698 View Post
    Suicide is VERY COMMON in Asian cultures... shame does it. It is to a large extent expected and accepted. You screw up to your family or to your employer in a major way... you need to take care of it yourself. It is expected. Sad but true.

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    A man walked into a library and asked for a book on how to commit suicide, the librarian responds with ”f... off you won’t bring it back!”

    Suicide is illegal because it’s a crime to destroy government property

    Many try to argue that we live in a world that is all too politically correct, but joking about serious illnesses and life-threatening situations needs to come to an end. With someone taking their life approximately every 12 minutes, this is not something to be trivialized. It is a real problem that can’t be ignored, and we need to stop the stigma that mental illness is any less legitimate than any other disease.
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    Suicide is garbage... I can't stand people that give up and check out like that.. Man up or Woman up and fight the POWER!! NEVER GIVE UP!!!

    Life is a gift don't throw it away.. Tomorrow is always a better day.. Ride it out and see what happens tomorrow.. Time is the healer of all pains!!! You move on and make changes in life.. Turn the page and roll with the CHANGES!!!

    NEVER BE AFRAID OF LIFE CHANGES!! Welcome it for better or worse, that's living!!

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    I thought I was the only one left who like REO. Gary Richrath was a beast... but he basically drank himself to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipacoin9698 View Post
    I thought I was the only one left who like REO. Gary Richrath was a beast... but he basically drank himself to death.
    Great song writer!! REO rocks!!! Love the lyrics and music.. Stuck with me thru the years... It was before my time too.. I just listened and said to myself that's good music and solid lyrics...

    Roll with those changes!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipacoin9698 View Post
    I thought I was the only one left who like REO. Gary Richrath was a beast... but he basically drank himself to death.
    Older stuff is fantastic! "Ridin the Storm Out, "Keep Pushin", and "Golden Country" -- As good as it gets!

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    This was another boost me up song in my early 20's in college.. Just gotta fight thru the tough times!!

    This is UB40.. One of my favorite songs to date for inspiration and to carry on!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Great song writer!! REO rocks!!! Love the lyrics and music.. Stuck with me thru the years... It was before my time too.. I just listened and said to myself that's good music and solid lyrics...

    Roll with those changes!!!
    I like almost all of their catalogue... but the best IMO are older songs Golden Country and Back on the Road again
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    I was dating a chick a few years back... she had a funny story she was hanging in a bar after the REO show (years ago)... and she met Kevin Cronin at the bar. She said he was all into her talking... then she mentioned her bf and he got rude and told her to penetrate off lmao

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    not sure exactly what point i'll be making..

    that video made her seem very deep thinking (a good thing)...... but i also think very smart people tend overthink things often too; overactive brains

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