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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    Why do you believe everything you see on sbr?

    Strange philly
    Not sure what you mean. I wasn’t commenting on your supposed statements as we’ve chatted offline and have always been cordial. I was referring to the jihad guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    Not sure what you mean. I wasn’t commenting on your supposed statements as we’ve chatted offline and have always been cordial. I was referring to the jihad guy
    Sorry

    And Opti said above
    Plus lots of those guys hate sbr over BI
    That said those guys are scumbags

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I knew who he was months ago.

    I didn't bother with it as he was only banned for losing his mind about BigDaddyJames stiffing him, and no one caring about it.

    I also thought he was generally honorable and would not have expected him to be a scammer.

    Goes to show. Never give a punk an even break eh.
    really depends what you consider a punk

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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    Sorry

    And Opti said above
    Plus lots of those guys hate sbr over BI
    That said those guys are scumbags
    A generally honorable punk. Interesting

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    Opti why not kick him out when you knew?

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    Pretty sad world when you have people openly gloating like that when there are people who finished below him who probably really could’ve used the bump up in rankings/prize money but you know what? Good on him or her. It’s a massive learning lesson for all of us who work here on how to do better and what we should and shouldn’t tolerate. Other than my super important and exciting tennis contests BTP is the highlight contest of our year and we need to ensure it’s as foolproof and scam free as possible. I used to have to worry about Eastern Euros trying to jack us every year and while it’s a bit sad a forum lifer would do it now, that’s obviously the way things are now so thanks for the heads up and for whomever he is for putting it out there for us to read here. SBR did the right thing I think by paying out this year despite the murkiness around it. It took me a couple of days to come to really think about it and come to that conclusion but any other alternative would’ve been just as bad as one of the fly by night dodgy books we get complaints about. One and done and it won’t happen again in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    Will sbr make a statement on this?


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    Today, 01:55 PM
    This is a really long story but IAG was unknowingly lured into my jihad of SBR. The jihad is now complete and all scores settled. Karma is apparently a real thing.

    SBR has amazingly paid me the 10K for winning the contest despite banning me for doing it.

    IAG initiallly gave a NASCAR contest entry thinking I had been banned and did not have an account to use. So was happy to let me put in picks for her as a favor. I won with it. Nothing really wrong so far. It was just $100. Trouble is I also won almost all the other prize money that the morons had already counted as their own with my other entries which she was not aware of. Hard feelings ensued as this was completely unexpected from new and unknown arrivals.

    After this success, I then told IAG about BTP and encouraged her to do it. She forgot the first two weeks and said I could give her the picks and she would submit and even let me have the winnings if I placed because she is just that nice and was just not interested enough to remember.

    I did a little too good with the entries and one of the NASCAR scumbags over there that pays close attention to me figured out what was going on with me coming up picks for three different accounts. He did not initially mind me being in the NASCAR contest because he liked to compete against me because we despise one another, but he did not count on me beating him soundly with his paid for picks and knocking him completely out of the money when he thought first was his.

    IAG was basically inattentive and not particularly aware of what was happening because she was not very interested. She got caught up in it all when the scumbag excitedly jumped out to foil the plan. Unfortunately for him, the moron waited too long and they gave me the prize anyway.

    Technically, these were three separate accounts with separate operators in different locations but I was the brains behind all of them when it came to picks. We finished 1, 8 and 30-something in BTP after finishing 1, 3, 4 in the NASCAR contest and landing a grand total of $12,000+ dollars

    Given the incredible stupidity and scumbaggery of the likes of PO69 and RooRoo, it was assumed by many of the morons that IAG was running the whole operation which is the last thing she would ever do. They proceeded to try to get her banned and the winnings forfeited.

    There is much more to this story but far too long to tell but that is the general idea. Maybe I will go into it later because it is all beyond belief and could not have happened without the help of the Gamblng Gods.
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    well, sums it up perfectly for me from a factual standpoint, now the question becomes was this a violation of account rules....

    main question on my mind is can you have a buddy on the site and rely totally on him to give you picks and plays in a sbr hockey contest because you're a neophyte who, using my own case for example, cares more about sex than hockey and haven't watched a hockey game since you were an austin icebats vip season ticket holder in the mid nineties?


    ps I knew something was up in nascar when iag was rollin' up the field in a couple of races, but didn't say shit b/c my drivers were busy wreckin' themselves when 4 outta 5 were in the top ten of the race with three laps to go (think roval)

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    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post28295441

    Definitely fishy, but both users went SBR Pro and were not otherwise linked by household. Friends sharing plays is always a tough one and it is why you see the complaint every so often with online sportsbooks, often not black and white. The contests software is being upgraded to thwart this type of activity; hopefully in time for next year, but this does reinforce that changes are needed to the eligibility requirements.

    The ruling stands. We will be compensating with a healthy betpoints reward the users in this thread who helped discover what slipped past our radar. Look for this by Wednesday.

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    ill actually accept the $123.45 i just sent to angelman in terms of points



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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    Opti why not kick him out when you knew?
    I made a mistake.

    I should have reported it at least.

    And definitely should have twigged something wasn't right when he was pro again under the new handle.

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    i dont think reporting matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I made a mistake.
    I should have reported it at least.

    And definitely should have twigged something wasn't right when he was pro again under the new handle.


    well here is someone who should not be a mod. That's not acceptable if you're an adult.

    lol what else could have possibly crossed your mind?

    "hey here is a guy cheating..I'm going to go make a hot pocket"

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    Pretty sad world when you have people openly gloating like that when there are people who finished below him who probably really could’ve used the bump up in rankings/prize money but you know what? Good on him or her. It’s a massive learning lesson for all of us who work here on how to do better and what we should and shouldn’t tolerate. Other than my super important and exciting tennis contests BTP is the highlight contest of our year and we need to ensure it’s as foolproof and scam free as possible. I used to have to worry about Eastern Euros trying to jack us every year and while it’s a bit sad a forum lifer would do it now, that’s obviously the way things are now so thanks for the heads up and for whomever he is for putting it out there for us to read here. SBR did the right thing I think by paying out this year despite the murkiness around it. It took me a couple of days to come to really think about it and come to that conclusion but any other alternative would’ve been just as bad as one of the fly by night dodgy books we get complaints about. One and done and it won’t happen again in the future.
    Shari probably respect you more (and your fellow Aussie) than anyone else here but why do you think paying was the right thing to do? If someone logged a complaint against a sportsbook with as shady a situation as this I’d think that sbr would not go to bat for them. What bad publicity would come of this? It was a known fact the person opened a new account. Maybe I’m missing something

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    as a potential silver lining for sbr, if the business model is based on traffic and "eyeballs," why not let it be the wild west, where we can create and use as many accts as we can find time for, let us all blast away times ten/fifteen ghosts, etc., with everyone knowing ahead of time what the deal is....

    traffic would be heavier, advertisers would love the amount of "traffic", and no one could complain about some jackass winning 1st-15th in this contest or that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    Pretty sad world when you have people openly gloating like that when there are people who finished below him who probably really could’ve used the bump up in rankings/prize money but you know what? Good on him or her. It’s a massive learning lesson for all of us who work here on how to do better and what we should and shouldn’t tolerate. Other than my super important and exciting tennis contests BTP is the highlight contest of our year and we need to ensure it’s as foolproof and scam free as possible. I used to have to worry about Eastern Euros trying to jack us every year and while it’s a bit sad a forum lifer would do it now, that’s obviously the way things are now so thanks for the heads up and for whomever he is for putting it out there for us to read here. SBR did the right thing I think by paying out this year despite the murkiness around it. It took me a couple of days to come to really think about it and come to that conclusion but any other alternative would’ve been just as bad as one of the fly by night dodgy books we get complaints about. One and done and it won’t happen again in the future.
    you cant correct this with just being a pro and verifying identity

    its like fats said about utah drinking

    the fukkin drunks will still drive

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    Guy should not of been allowed another account
    I tried to retire firedawg do to the constant bs I'm involved in
    I wanted to start fresh and go pro with no drama
    I was told that is impossible

    It is what it is
    At least Donkey is being nice so I won't tilt

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    Shari probably respect you more (and your fellow Aussie) than anyone else here but why do you think paying was the right thing to do? If someone logged a complaint against a sportsbook with as shady a situation as this I’d think that sbr would not go to bat for them. What bad publicity would come of this? It was a known fact the person opened a new account. Maybe I’m missing something
    sbr cant prove anything

    its that simple

    the last thread shouldnt have been locked

    this thread shouldnt have been moved to the saloon

    it needs to be an open discussion to let everyone say their thoughts, give SBR clues, and move on with a better product

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    nobody knows everything

    some of us can combine to know everything

    its best the non scammers give all hints with a solution

    i mean it was pretty obvious sbr was open to IP scams

    im sure they still go on with points only

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    Always Call Heads, on 02 Jan 2019 - 3:59 PM, said:
    LOL at Optional saying never give a punk an even break. Sean Overy stole thousands and he tried to get him to come back to the site because he was his pal. Optional is the reason all of this happened. He played favorites and kicked me off the site.

























    wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    sbr cant prove anything

    its that simple

    the last thread shouldnt have been locked

    this thread shouldnt have been moved to the saloon

    it needs to be an open discussion to let everyone say their thoughts, give SBR clues, and move on with a better product
    Didn’t a mod say they knew who he was prior to all this?

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    That guy pulled an all timer here
    The payment was sent ?
    Now he's bashing Opti ?
    After he paid him?


    Wtffff

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    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post
    Shari probably respect you more (and your fellow Aussie) than anyone else here but why do you think paying was the right thing to do? If someone logged a complaint against a sportsbook with as shady a situation as this I’d think that sbr would not go to bat for them. What bad publicity would come of this? It was a known fact the person opened a new account. Maybe I’m missing something
    Good question.

    If Derailer came to SBR complaining a book would not pay him due to multi accounting, SBR would ask the book for proof of that.

    Especially if it was to rescind a prize after the result was known and when the book had plenty of time to detect this in advance.

    If he is so clever SBR can't come up with the same level of evidence a book would be asked for, it would be super hypocritical to not pay the guy.

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    optional, i am still waiting on my healthy payment

    would be willing to go on sbrpayroll in the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    Guy should not of been allowed another account
    I tried to retire firedawg do to the constant bs I'm involved in
    I wanted to start fresh and go pro with no drama
    I was told that is impossible

    It is what it is
    At least Donkey is being nice so I won't tilt
    i got your back, dawgy....

    you've been through the ringer, taken all the shots and nevertheless came back and kept grinding like the energizer bunny....

    good luck....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    optional, i am still waiting on my healthy payment

    would be willing to go on sbrpayroll in the future

    THANKS
    Gave you 50! That should be good..now move on

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post28295441


    The ruling stands. We will be compensating with a healthy betpoints reward the users in this thread who helped discover what slipped past our radar. Look for this by Wednesday.

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    Shouldn't be much longer now Rudy, as the A**hole has been paid, He has admitted I busted him, and your research buried him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Good question.

    If Derailer came to SBR complaining a book would not pay him due to multi accounting, SBR would ask the book for proof of that.

    Especially if it was to rescind a prize after the result was known and when the book had plenty of time to detect this in advance.

    If he is so clever SBR can't come up with the same level of evidence a book would be asked for, it would be super hypocritical to not pay the guy.
    Where would the guy complain? He DID angle shoot. And apparently it was known prior

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heltah Skeltah View Post
    Gave you 50! That should be good..now move on
    Give me 50
    I'll send nudes
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    I still would love to see what would happen when jake peavy has multiple accounts at a poker table, and the sbr rng overheats, starts smokin', and ultimately explodes due to trying to allow all jake's "dorado chico" accounts in the trny to win....

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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    Give me 50
    I'll send nudes
    Wait till I ask..already jerked off for today
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heltah Skeltah View Post
    Wait till I ask..already jerked off for today
    Giggles
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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    Giggles
    Indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    Always Call Heads, on 02 Jan 2019 - 3:59 PM, said:[INDENT]LOL at Optional saying never give a punk an even break. Sean Overy stole thousands and he tried to get him to come back to the site because he was his pal. Optional is the reason all of this happened. He played favorites and kicked me off the site.
    I'm not going to play this game of answering messages you post from other sites.

    But he's just trying to justify himself being a scumbag now.

    I didn't kick him off the site and I certainly didn't want SeanOvery to come back, or like him!! There is a thread from maybe 2013 in the nascar forum where I explain in no uncertain terms what a lying scumbag I thought he was. He stiffed me personally. My opinion never changed about him but unlike BuffaloNickle I was man enough to realize it was my own problem and not start blaming SBR or the entire NASCAR forum for not wanting to listen to the crying for months on end.


    Anyway, basically, like I said I was wrong.

    I thought he was ok, and not a scumbag.

    Let him justify himself to his cohorts all he likes. No matter what they say, even they know not to trust him now too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    Pretty sad world when you have people openly gloating like that when there are people who finished below him who probably really could’ve used the bump up in rankings/prize money but you know what? Good on him or her. It’s a massive learning lesson for all of us who work here on how to do better and what we should and shouldn’t tolerate. Other than my super important and exciting tennis contests BTP is the highlight contest of our year and we need to ensure it’s as foolproof and scam free as possible. I used to have to worry about Eastern Euros trying to jack us every year and while it’s a bit sad a forum lifer would do it now, that’s obviously the way things are now so thanks for the heads up and for whomever he is for putting it out there for us to read here. SBR did the right thing I think by paying out this year despite the murkiness around it. It took me a couple of days to come to really think about it and come to that conclusion but any other alternative would’ve been just as bad as one of the fly by night dodgy books we get complaints about. One and done and it won’t happen again in the future.
    Quote Originally Posted by USCPHILLYGUY View Post

    Shari probably respect you more (and your fellow Aussie) than anyone else here but why do you think paying was the right thing to do? If someone logged a complaint against a sportsbook with as shady a situation as this I’d think that sbr would not go to bat for them. What bad publicity would come of this? It was a known fact the person opened a new account. Maybe I’m missing something
    I get what Shari is trying to say... by paying the 1st place winner. There's also a side of me that says... well... we have a shi#load of things to sort out... and it's UNFAIR to the participants who played by the rules. Should of at least thought it through a few days... possibly a week... before making a decision for the 1st place winner. Everyone would of waited for all places to be paid.... I mean... sh#$ it's free money anyways.

    By paying the first place winner... you're almost suggesting.... HEY IT'S OK TO CHEAT.

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    I guess it comes down to the fact that it’s a free contest. Pretty sure the 2nd place guy is happy with a free 4K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    Always Call Heads, on 02 Jan 2019 - 3:59 PM, said:
    LOL at Optional saying never give a punk an even break. Sean Overy stole thousands and he tried to get him to come back to the site because he was his pal. Optional is the reason all of this happened. He played favorites and kicked me off the site.


    dammit.... Opti..... all to blame..... shoulda figured my favorite jovial round mound of rebound aussie would be at the root of all the problems.....

    what a travesty!


    donk and Opti in better times, before Opti caused this mess:





    all kidding aside, for buff nick to blame Opti for this mess is akin to blaming trump for the mess in syria......

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