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    Was United 93 shot down?

    Rumsfeld said it was

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    Laker, we need a play not a fukin political thread pal

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    Quote Originally Posted by unde0087 View Post
    Laker, we need a play not a fukin political thread pal
    Spot on unde. If I wanted to hear about this shyte there are other forums for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unde0087 View Post
    Laker, we need a play not a fukin political thread pal
    I'm broke. I don't gamble anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I'm broke. I don't gamble anymore

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    Why do canadians care

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    Witnesses said that they seen fireballs come from the plane after it was hit by a laser beam that came from one of those crazy windmills.

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    Obviously

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I'm broke. I don't gamble anymore
    Surely u jest.

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    Where's your fukkin whale tail, Lakeshow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy Munny View Post
    Where's your fukkin whale tail, Lakeshow?
    Buried in mendoza

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    No.
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    It was highjacked. Planes were still scrambling. No residue, no witnesses, Knock it the penetrate off

    The end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Buried in mendoza
    Reminds me of that old western tune by Conway Twitty "I Left My Whale Tail in Argentina."
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    There's no question flight 93 was shot down.

    3 facts.

    1. The tail of the plane was found nearly a mile from where the plane crashed in skanksville.

    2. Rumsfield said on 3 separate occassions the plane was shot down.

    3. JAG attorneys (the navy's attorney's) admitted the plane was shot down at the military tribunal where the 22nd hijacker Moussauai was tried.

    The cell phone calls to families were likely made on the ground, in 2001 it was very hard to get reception on a cell phone call well a plane was in the air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Surely u jest.
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    Laker, how is life?

    REmember when guys would be waiting on pins + needles for u to post your Pick Sheet for the nite? Then guys would roll a wheelbarrow of cash down to the local sportsbook to get action down.

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    Rumsfeld misspoke. If you listen to him, the context in which he speaking would’ve meant that the terrorists shot it down. He never said we shot it down

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Laker, how is life?

    REmember when guys would be waiting on pins + needles for u to post your Pick Sheet for the nite? Then guys would roll a wheelbarrow of cash down to the local sportsbook to get action down.
    I'm great bro. Looking forward to the bash. To bad you wont be there

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    There's no question flight 93 was shot down.

    3 facts.

    1. The tail of the plane was found nearly a mile from where the plane crashed in skanksville.

    2. Rumsfield said on 3 separate occassions the plane was shot down.

    3. JAG attorneys (the navy's attorney's) admitted the plane was shot down at the military tribunal where the 22nd hijacker Moussauai was tried.

    The cell phone calls to families were likely made on the ground, in 2001 it was very hard to get reception on a cell phone call well a plane was in the air.
    Only two of the calls made were by cell phone, the other 35 calls were made by seatback phones which worked fine. Those 35 calls were made by 13 people.

    Older cell phones have better transmitters and are capable of transmitting calls up to 10 miles.

    Just figured Id add a bit of truth to your post
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I'm great bro. Looking forward to the bash. To bad you wont be there
    Lol....you finally cry enough to get a room lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    I'm great bro. Looking forward to the bash. To bad you wont be there
    Have a fun trip. I'll see u down the road, pal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Rumsfeld said it was
    yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Only two of the calls made were by cell phone, the other 35 calls were made by seatback phones which worked fine. Those 35 calls were made by 13 people.

    Older cell phones have better transmitters and are capable of transmitting calls up to 10 miles.

    Just figured Id add a bit of truth to your post
    The calls that were played publicly were cell phone calls and there's nothing that wasn't truthful in my post. There's not conspiracy here, the Feds knew the last plane was likely headed for capitol hill or the white house, they had to act and in an area that would minimize civilian deaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    The calls that were played publicly were cell phone calls and there's nothing that wasn't truthful in my post. There's not conspiracy here, the Feds knew the last plane was likely headed for capitol hill or the white house, they had to act and in an area that would minimize civilian deaths.
    Exactly, nobody would ever fault them for shooting down that plane, but that is not what happened. The debris field was small, all body parts within a 70 acre radius. Some pieces of paper and tiny fragments of sheet metal were found 1-2 miles away but not the tail.

    again, in 2001 the cell phones were older and had bigger transmitters. The 2 calls were made at 5000 ft, not even a mile

    Absolutely nothing points to that plane being shot down

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Exactly, nobody would ever fault them for shooting down that plane, but that is not what happened. The debris field was small, all body parts within a 70 acre radius. Some pieces of paper and tiny fragments of sheet metal were found 1-2 miles away but not the tail.

    again, in 2001 the cell phones were older and had bigger transmitters. The 2 calls were made at 5000 ft, not even a mile

    Absolutely nothing points to that plane being shot down

    The tail of the plane was found over a mile from the where the plane was shot down and there was no wreckage at the site, no tail or anything. Try and find a picture of plane debris in the field - you won't.

    Rumsfield said on 3 occassions, in front of congress, on meet the press, and during an interview, that the plane was shot down. The prosecutor of the 22nd hijacker also publicly said the plane was shot down - its part of court record.


    The tail of the plane was found over a mile from the where the plane was shot down and there was no wreckage at the site, no tail or anything. Try and find a picture of plane debris in the field - you won't.

    Rumsfield said on 3 occassions, in front of congress, on meet the press, and during an interview, that the plane was shot down. The prosecutor of the 22nd hijacker also publicly said the plane was shot down - its part of court record.

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    I live 15 miles from where the plane "crashed", and when it happened, the reasonable theory was that it was justifiably shot down, which explains why debris was found so far away from the actual "Impact zone" as it would have already been flying through the air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post

    Rumsfield said on 3 occassions, in front of congress, on meet the press, and during an interview, that the plane was shot down. The prosecutor of the 22nd hijacker also publicly said the plane was shot down - its part of court record.
    Local residents on the news that had seen the plane in the air claimed that they had seen fireballs coming from it prior to it crashing.

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    There were several debris sites up to 8 miles from where the plane crash - the comment that there was only minor debris within a mile of the crash is completely false.

    A second debris field was around Indian Lake about 3 miles from the crash scene. Some debris was in the lake and some was adjacent to the lake. "More debris from the plane was found in New Baltimore, some 8 miles away from the crash. "State police and the FBI initially said they didn't want to speculate whether the debris was from the crash, or if the plane could have broken up in midair." 1
    Additionally, Flight 93's debris field covered anywhere from three to six miles and, as CNN reported, pieces of the plane were found six to eight miles from the main impact area: "Authorities also said another debris site had been cordoned off six to eight miles away from the original crash debris site." 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    There were several debris sites up to 8 miles from where the plane crash - the comment that there was only minor debris within a mile of the crash is completely false.

    A second debris field was around Indian Lake about 3 miles from the crash scene. Some debris was in the lake and some was adjacent to the lake. "More debris from the plane was found in New Baltimore, some 8 miles away from the crash. "State police and the FBI initially said they didn't want to speculate whether the debris was from the crash, or if the plane could have broken up in midair." 1
    Additionally, Flight 93's debris field covered anywhere from three to six miles and, as CNN reported, pieces of the plane were found six to eight miles from the main impact area: "Authorities also said another debris site had been cordoned off six to eight miles away from the original crash debris site." 2
    Exactly. There is no way that debris could have traveled that far unless it had already broken away from the plane while it was traveling through the air at a high speed. That shit didn't bounce and fly 3 miles after it hit the ground.

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    sounds like the camel jockey's crashed it, from the voice recorder......

    perhaps their violent jerking of the plane to put it down caused the tail to break off?

    no mention of any prosecutor saying it was shot down, either.....

    but does seem odd to have a debris field a mile or miles away from the crash site.....

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...ts-2499533.php

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    First off, ask yourselves why would our gov’t try and hide the fact they shot this plane down? There is no good explanation. Everyone would have understood it was justified. If our military had shot the plane down there would’ve been no reason to deny it. As it turns out, there wasn’t even a fighter jet in the area when the plane went down. The fighter jets that were eventually able to get airborn did so without ammunition and the plan was to ram the plane. However by the time those two jets actually got airborne, the plane had already crashed.

    Second, this “debris” field you all speak of was NOT people or body parts, it was pieces of paper and tiny pieces of sheet metal. There was a 10-15 mph wind that day fully capable of moving bits of paperbmiles from the wreckage, and thats exactly what happened. All body parts were found within a 70 acre radius to the crash site, the black box was found 25ft deep.

    This was not a plane blown apart in the sky, it nosedived at 600mph straight into earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auto Donk View Post
    sounds like the camel jockey's crashed it, from the voice recorder......

    perhaps their violent jerking of the plane to put it down caused the tail to break off?

    no mention of any prosecutor saying it was shot down, either.....

    but does seem odd to have a debris field a mile or miles away from the crash site.....

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...ts-2499533.php
    When I had heard that they found shit clear over at Indian lake, I couldn't believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auto Donk View Post
    sounds like the camel jockey's crashed it, from the voice recorder......

    perhaps their violent jerking of the plane to put it down caused the tail to break off?

    no mention of any prosecutor saying it was shot down, either.....

    but does seem odd to have a debris field a mile or miles away from the crash site.....

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...ts-2499533.php
    Read what that “debris field” conisisted of. I think they even considered a piece of nylon fabric as part of the debris field, the fukking wind had blown it a mile or two down the road.

    Any debris field consistent with a plane blown out of the sky would include human body parts scattered over a very large area, that wasnt the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    First off, ask yourselves why would our gov’t try and hide the fact they shot this plane down?
    After all of the shit that just happened, I don't know if most American citizens could handle that kind of information. I really want to think that it just crashed, but I honestly don't think that it did. I am no conspiracy guy, but being from that area, the whole "Crashed in the middle of nowhere" theory doesn't fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Read what that “debris field” conisisted of. I think they even considered a piece of nylon fabric as part of the debris field, the fukking wind had blown it a mile or two down the road.

    Any debris field consistent with a plane blown out of the sky would include human body parts scattered over a very large area, that wasnt the case.
    No one thinks that it was "Blown up in the sky" but instead "Brought Down"

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