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Why the fukk is an Iraqi who is completely outgunned going to face up with the US military. I think you've got to give these people some credit. Those smart MFers kicked the US right out of Iraq using just homemade weapons. Don't even try to start up with those crazy Afghans. They have kicked the shit out of every white man that has tried to conquer.Originally Posted by BigDofBA
No they didn't.
There is a reason America reduced Iraq's army to rubble in a matter of days. We did the same thing to the Taliban in Afghanistan. If these people were so smart, they wouldn't need us to defend them and they wouldn't need us to rebuild their countries. They wouldn't need us to train their armies either.
Here is a list of the most technologically advanced countries in the world. It'a all Western countries and Japan and China. http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/th...rld-334258/11/
It sure as hell isn't Iraq and Afghanistan.
Also, to insinuate that Muslims created or pioneered Algebra is a bit of a gross misinterpretation. The word sugar comes from the Arabic word "sukkar" but that does not mean Muslims invented sugar. With all that said, civilization is way passed that. Western countries are putting satellites in orbit, creating drones, and creating all sorts of other sophisticated technology while a lot of people in the Middle East are just lucky to have water and electricity.
It's not a coincidence that there is direct correlation between how advanced countries are in the middle east vs how "westernized" they are.
Back to Sports, it's an easy known fact Middle Eastern countries get dominated. They're athletes simply cannot compare physically. Turkey is ok at stuff but they're also a little more "Westernized" than other places in that part of the world.
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Russians are all white. They are just as smart. They are damn smart all over Eastern Europe. They can steal your credit card data and make a living off it no problem. The casinos will not even take Eastern Europeans because they are such excellent bonus whores. All they need is an opportunity. Not because of their religion. Not because of their race. Just because they are stuck in a corrupt system and can't get out.
Steve Jobs is Lebanese. Would he have become a billionaire in Lebanon. He would not have been anything.
The US is not in Iraq and is getting out of Afghan for one reason. They were kicking our ass. Those Afghan fukkers aren't afraid of any Americans and they think the US soldiers are wimps and cannot fight without their "macaroni and cheese" and they are in the process of kicking us the hell out. They didn't have the weapons so they had to be smarter than we were. The Iraqis and Afghans are smart and use strategy, Americans are dumb and drop bombs. If bombs don't work, we are done because we can't outsmart anybody on the battlefield.
American's are dumb for fighting wars in the air and with drones?
Don't do drugs man.
Steve Jobs was born in San Francisco. Most of the people that live in shit hole countries come to America for a reason. Then they have kids here. It's a melting pot.
Are we fixing Iraq and Afghanistan. We dropped our bombs and we did not win. We dropped our bombs in Vietnam and we did not win. The US military cannot fight worth a damn if they can't blow people to hell. We have had our ass kicked enough that you ought to be able to figure that out by now. They were smarter than we were and they kicked us out. Period.
Steve Jobs doesn't prove your point. You say Arabs are inferior. Steve Jobs is Arab. Given the same opportunity, he succeeeded.
they are very uncoordinated, even jumping jacks are difficult.
There is nothing to win in Iraq and Afghanistan and that's not America's current strategy anyway. Our strategy is to train these people to have their own Democratic governments and fight their own wars. That's really the major problem. These people don't know how to take care of theirselves without someone being a dictator over them.
We're not fighting countries, we're fighting a radical ideology.
You have a bunch of cowardly people that don't value life and will follow what ever militant group pops up. If we destroy Al Qaeda, some other group will pop up. If we destroy ISIS, same thing happens. I mean literally, a few guys with AK-47s in Toyota pickups can roll through town and people will get on their knees and bow down. That's how cowardly these people are.
The only way to fix it would be to take over the damn country and occupy it which we aren't going to do under this administration. During the previous administration when there were American boots on the ground, ISIS did not exists because we would have annihilated them and no one was man enough to take us on.
They're more like roaches, we keep killing them and they keep coming back.
I wouldn't call having thousands of your fellow militants killed by remote controlled drones and your cities completely pulverized winning.
Last edited by BigDofBA; 01-07-16 at 12:34 AM.
That's funny as shit.
I understand you are a flag waver and this pisses you off. But the fact of the matter is that these Arabs are damn smart fighters. Sure we can build bombs that will pulverize a country. But when it comes time to beat them and their homemade weapons, we can't do it. ISIS is running circles around our military thinkers because they are just smarter. We keep doing dumb stuff and they keep doing smart stuff.
Human intelligence is basically the same. It's just a matter of how much of an opportunity you get to use it.
We have a better system than everybody else. But it is not because we are smarter. We have a less corrupt system. Most world leaders are not interested in their populations being successful. They want it all. In the US, the elites have been willing to allow people to prosper. That is starting to change and we are becoming increasingly less prosperous. And if they no longer allow us to prosper, we will be just like everybody else.
If these people were smarter than us, they wouldn't be hiding in caves and using women and childer as human shields. If they were smarter than us, their most effective combat move wouldn't be suicide.
Bush screwed up by going into Iraq in the first place. Obama screwed up by pulling out and leaving no one in control. If Bush hadn't went in, we wouldn't have this problem. If Obama would have left our soldiers there, the Iraqi cities wouldn't have gotten taken over by ISIS.
It's really that simple. These motherfvckers can't even do jumping jacks. I don't know how you can say they're smarter. When you're best option is blowing yourself up, you aren't winning and you aren't smarter.
It's a huge mess and America has chose not clean it up this time. The countries we've left in charge to clean it up, despite the fact you think they're smart, can't do anything so it's just becoming a bigger mess.
If we really sent over are marines we would liberate Iraq and Syria in a matter of weeks. These untrained militants would be no match for us. The best thing they can do is blown themselves up.
Alright, smart guy. I'll let you have your beliefs.
Lol...umm thanks?
Lol
Their are couple I can think of
zidane, Kareem benzema.
Called me?
You're getting off track. We were talking about sports.
It's all about opportunity. I don't think they are any good at sports in Finland or Latvia or even Ireland. The US subsidizes sports heavily and even pays its best athletes. The Middle East lives under dictatorships and can't even afford a soccer ball. Plus, sports is a substitute for war. They can't play sports plus they've got the real thing.
Zinedine Zidane was born in France, as was the other guy you mentioned, hence they're French. I said Arab born as in they were born in Saudi, Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq etc. Nobody can name a popular one cause they don't exist.
This is off topic but to the points made about the war, Iraq got absolutely destroyed. They had over half a million casualties. Americans only suffered a couple thousand, including 9/11 fatalities. Not even comparable. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4102855.html
well, if they make "stoning bitches to death" a sport, or "yelling allah akbar as you but a guy's head off with a dull knife" a sport, the damn camel jockies will prevail in these "sports" like magic/bird prevailed in roundball on the world stage..........
meanwhile, you can scratch them ever being truly competitive in bi-athalon:
Last edited by Auto Donk; 01-07-16 at 04:40 PM.
ps.... you can rule out nascar, as well.... they'll never be competitive there, either....
(particularly when they have a penchant for leaving a severed arm on the racetrack):
Holy Shit Donk!
1. rich countries are better when it comes to sports because
a) better access to athletics infrastructure
b) talent search and development
c) economic safety net (athletes are able to concentrate on sports early on, and even if they fail, they can still make a living in the real world)
2. A few poor countries tend to do fairly well (Cuba, China, North Korea, former Soviet Union countries) because of
a) socialism (doping, drill, drill, drill, drill)
b) centralization
c) heavy investment in finding athletes to win some "glory" for the "beloved fatherland")
3. Coming back to point 1. here: The poor countries not only lack all the points under 1., they also (at least the majority) don't have a historical culture of playing "our" sports or compete in "our" Olympic disciplines for example. Make camel-racing and falconry Olympic disciplines and see how "we" stink in them.
Now regarding point 3., you might argue: but what about Katar (for example)? They are rich, they have top facilities etc.? Yep. But a) not as long as we do, and b) Katar is fukkin small. AND EVEN THEN: Look what they did in Handball: instant 2nd 2015 at the World Cup (and yeah, they bought foreign players, yadda yadda, still all but one earned ther money in the League of Katar and most of the team was still Kataris).
4. Now let's have a look at other countries, that are a) smaller or b) poor or c) not socialist or former socialist, or all three together:
There are countries with a fair share of Gold medals at Olympic games. Turkey for example has lots of medals. But where? 2/3 of them won in wrestling. Kazakhstan fukks up all other countries when it comes to weightlifting. Jamaica won 66 of 67 medals in track or field, 1 in cycling... Iran is a fukkin force when it comes to wrestling, etc etc etc. History, history and history.
5: Let me get one more point as an example: India a country of over 1 billion people. Not much of a historical force when it comes to "our" sports, it is not in their culture. But they where a goddamn force when it came to field hockey. Fukkin masters. Between 1928 and 1968, India won all but two of the field hockey gold medals. Pakistan (same region, same history when it comes to field hockey) won the other 2 back then. In 1972 Germany won surprisingly with Pakistan as 2nd and India as 3rd.
Then this happened: "In 1976, the Olympics switched from natural turf to synthetic, which is far more expensive. All the Indian players who practiced on fields and grass patches were learning skills no longer suited to international competition, and only the communities with the money and will to build a synthetic field could train viable contenders. India has won only a single field hockey medal in the 40 years since it last competed on natural turf, priced out of a sport that had once brought it so much Olympic glory."
Get my point? There is zero reason to believe they are inferior athletes by birth, but a whole lot of reasons (I only mentioned the ones that came to mind) why they are not able (or don't want to, at all) to compete.
calm down, Brick, as im pretty sure the flying arab dudes and the flying arm are some of those gov't-generated "holograms" the conspiracy theorists keep talkin' about in the "no planes" thread.........
the saudi's were trying to stop the import of Lexuses at the time, so this was a mere false flag to keep the Mercedes and Rolls models at lower prices, without competition from the Japanese luxury market....... there were no actual victims....
a noted physicist proved it is absolutely impossible for a one-armed saudi to fly end over end like you see in the video, yet his other, completely-severed arm doesn't appear airborne on the other side of the video until the car rolls over once more.......
add to that the phony "dust cloud" like that arising from the twin towers, it's clear this is a cheap, badly-produced phony video
Last edited by Auto Donk; 01-07-16 at 08:04 PM.
This is hilarious. Conspiracy theory guys please read!
And you keep writing dumb stuff. The US military could end the war and ISIS in a couple of hours if it wanted to. But for some reason (actually it's largely because of the \*\*\*\*\*\* crowd that elected Obama) it's more important to avoid civilian casualties than to win wars. These crafty Arab fighters know this and conduct operations from urban areas, preferably in/under schools and hospitals.
Impresses you though.
This is 100% accurate. These pussies hide behind women and children.
We're just too damn politically correct to go in there an take care of business. There would be collateral damage. You can't get around it.
Well why the hell did they decide to get their ass kicked out? We know they can blow stuff up and can level any country or even the entire world. I guess you consider Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam great successes although these will go down in American history as disasters. You can make all kind of excuses. It didn't work out.
Also, you complained that I got off track and then wentright back to being off subject. If you want to complain about stupid stuff, try not complaining about something and then immediately continuing on the subject. This denotes a lack of attention span.
Last edited by Buffalo Nickle; 01-07-16 at 10:07 PM.
Iraq, Afghan, Vietnam were large police actions - not wars to make another nation capitulate. Saddam was defeated militarily in hours in both wars. It was the policies that were disastrous and in the fabulous press you read, eventually it filters down into dimmer minds that the American military wasn't up to the task. Yawn.
Well, here's little problem for you to solve. It is generally acknowledged that Iraq and Afghanistan broke the US military. Multiple deployments, not enough people to fight. And now you boys think the US can waltz into the Middle East and kick ass in two weeks against Arab world of about 300 million in which every 25 year old male wants to kill an American soldier and will dedicate their entire life to do it.
Yeah, two weeks out to be about it against these morons that we have spent 15 years fighting and have had zero success except to destroy the countries we were going to save only to walk away in defeat and give up on any hope of the mission. Seems like they fell a little short dealing with a force of moron Arabs. But you can see the genius of the American white male race by wanting to sign up for some more of it,
And not one of these big talking white boys are about to go off to fight ISIS because they know damn well what might happen to them and they don't want any part of it.
Last edited by Buffalo Nickle; 01-07-16 at 10:42 PM.
Are you a jihadist or something? What the hell man.
There is pretty much zero doubt America could wipe ISIS out in a matter of days. With that said, there are numerous reason why we aren't doing that right now. A lot of it has to do with politics and the current administration is fearful of accidentally killing innocent civilians.
The jihadist mix themselves in with civilians because they know America has standards and won't bomb soft targets if there will be a lot of collateral damage.
The people over there aren't well trained. They fire AKs from their hip and have trouble hitting the broad side of a barn. They wouldn't put up any resistance against the precision of our military.
The most powerful army in that region under the most ruthless dictator was completely destroyed in couple of days by the US military. Here are some stats for you
Desert Storm
Iraqi soldiers killed - approx. 35,000
US soldiers killed - 292
I don't even want to include how much of their tank division, air force, and navy we destroyed. It was like at least 75% of it. We pretty much blew their ass to the stone age in the 2nd gulf war too.
The only reasons these pussy jihadists rose to power was because we left the region with no one in charge. Like I said, their most effective tactics are attacking civilians, or soft targets, and committing suicide. That isn't a sign of strength or being smart.
I'm just arguing with a bunch of rednecks that can't do math. There is doubt that the US can beat ISIS in three days. You are a moron. These guys fight with old weapons and homemade bombs and they do severe damage. Several war vets every day commit suicide -- EVERY DAY.
You can say what you want but they are not dumb, The US military never imagined what these guys would come up with and if they had, they never would have tangled with them. We are now fighting to save face,
You cannot wipe them out in 3 days because there are hundreds of millions of people over there and they come streaming in to fight Americans and they are going to fight America FOREVER, These MFers don't give up -- EVER. The US military cannot take casualties forever especially when people like you will not volunteer,
Say what you want about them. They are not dumb and they don't back down, If they were or they did, we would not have our problems. They have had this planned out from the beginning and they have implemented it perfectly. bin Laden fought the Russians. These guys do not do deployments. They never take a pension and retire. They fight and that's it.
It's morons like you that got us into these wars and it's always morons like you that keep them going.
You call me a redneck and moron...that's comical. If you only knew....
Anyway, like I've said before....Drugs are bad!
I hope you get the help you need. Maybe you should move to the Middle East.
GL to you.
Well, you have redneck mindset then.
You too. Remember you don't keep score in war by casualty counts. You keep score by what you accomplish. The Russians lost millions of people fighting the Germans. They don't consider that they lost because there is still a Russia. If Arabs lose millions and keep the US out, they win. That's how war works.
America's objective isn't to take over the Middle East. We don't even have ground troops over there.
Our objective was to take Saddam out of power which we did. After that we didn't have a plan and we just up and left. That's the main problem. It has nothing to do with not wanting to win. It has to do with not having a strategy. We don't even know what we want to do.
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