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    The Truth About Immigration and Welfare

    Its a long video but has some hard data, lets discuss...

    Is Trump right?


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    Our taxes go to a whole slue of things. His assumption we can't get ahead in life because of what we give to
    minorities and immigrants through social programs is wrong. Though high, the single most thing that is holding
    Americans back is health insurance costs.

    Before 2001, employers offered major medical at no cost to their employees. After that, all of a sudden we are paying $200 or more out of our pay every two weeks. No raises to cover that cost. People were on the edge before paying for health insurance and we wonder why we went into a recession. People didn't have money to buy shit, they had to buy health insurance. It continues today.

    Back on subject. Back in the day, our congress thought about the future. Not now. They knew all these people were
    coming here. Why didn't they have a plan to deal with this? Kick the can down the road, let someone else deal with
    this. Now it's come to a head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH View Post
    Its a long video but has some hard data, lets discuss...

    Is Trump right?
    of course he is. Tons of people know it. Trump is the only one running for the presidency and with the courage to say it.

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    The Economic Policy Institute disagrees...


    7. Do immigrants take jobs away from American workers?


    There is broad agreement among academic economists that in the long run, immigration has a small but positive impact on the labor market outcomes of native-born workers, on average.11 There is some debate about whether, within the overall small positive effect, certain subgroups are harmed, in particular native-born workers with low levels of education.




    9. Do unauthorized immigrants increase budget costs for states or the federal government?


    There is a fairly broad consensus that the present value of the long-run net fiscal impact of unauthorized immigration, at all levels of government combined, is small but positive—meaning that immigration reduces overall budget deficits.15 The long-run fiscal impact at the federal level is strongly positive; however, the impact at the state and local levels is negative. There is also a clear understanding that while the negative state and local impacts are largely concentrated in the states and localities that receive most of the new immigrants, the federal impact is shared evenly across the nation.
    Unauthorized immigrants are a net positive for public budgets because they contribute more to the system than they take out.16 Unauthorized immigrants generally cannot receive benefits from government programs, except in some cases, such as when unauthorized immigrant children receive public education, and in some states that allow unauthorized immigrants to attend state colleges at in-state tuition rates. Nevertheless, most of these unauthorized immigrants will still pay taxes. The vast majority pay sales taxes in states with sales taxes, and property taxes through properties that they own or rent. Additionally, most unauthorized immigrant workers also pay payroll and income taxes. The Social Security Administration estimates that 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants are actually on formal payrolls, either using fraudulent Social Security numbers or Social Security numbers of the deceased.17 Unauthorized immigrants pay into Social Security via automatic payroll deductions, but they can never claim Social Security benefits. In 2005, it was estimated that unauthorized immigrants paid about $7 billion per year in Social Security taxes that they will never be able to reclaim.


    http://www.epi.org/publication/immigration-facts

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    your info is old this is the latest stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    of course he is. Tons of people know it. Trump is the only one running for the presidency and with the courage to say it.
    trump rails about 'illegals' - you penetrating dummy. illegals don't get 'welfare'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumbag View Post
    trump rails about 'illegals' - you penetrating dummy. illegals don't get 'welfare'.
    SCUMBAG

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    They just dump them all over america. The people don't care. At least the blacks who cry about trump can get killed and displaced out of there cities by all the illegals.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=4kQQNvMx754
    Last edited by retard; 10-24-15 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    SCUMBAG
    Love the guys hat on backwards sunburn on his forehead.
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    Trump is the only one with balls to speak the truth.

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    Biggest welfare recipients are profitable American businesses!

    Try getting a loan as a prospective small biz owner!How many publicly traded American companies scam local,state & federal governments into giving them bailouts/tax abatements because of gross mismanagement & greed?Also how many American companies setup offshore tax havens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by megamillionslose View Post
    Try getting a loan as a prospective small biz owner!How many publicly traded American companies scam local,state & federal governments into giving them bailouts/tax abatements because of gross mismanagement & greed?Also how many American companies setup offshore tax havens?
    All of them.....

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