[recon1]

Deagel is supposed to be the authority on quick facts on all countries. Deagel gathers information from the following Sources: US Department of Defense, Department of State, CIA, World Bank and European Union.
Deagel does 10 year projections. Deagel head was asked why the drastic change in U.S. population and he said hackers got to the database and changed numbers and that the numbers would be changed once they rectified the problem, this was last October. In the report you will notice not the U.S. but other allied countries suffer major depopulation like: Netherlands, Canada, England, Spain, Portugal Australia and many more. Arab and South American countries actually have large increases. Here is a link if interested.

http://www.deagel.com/country/forecast.aspx

I should add that last Fall the numbers were listed as a 2025 projection of 69 million for U.S. but Deagel did change those numbers to 65 million total U.S. population.

[PaperTrail07]

Very "odd" prediction.....

[Russian Rocket]

recon

[PaperTrail07]

Wish I had more $ to relocate....sure i'd be in the wheelhouse taken out lol...

[muldoon]

Deagel is supposed to be the authority on quick facts on all countries.

According to.....?

More end-of-times porn fan fiction

[recon1]

According to.....?

More end-of-times porn fan fiction

"according" to who? did you not read how and whom Deagel gathers information from? here it is again for the comprehension impaired.
Sources: US Department of Defense, Department of State, CIA, World Bank and European Union.

"More end-of-times porn" from who? where did i say anything about "end of times"?

Just refute the information. Yes, absolutely refute how and where sources may be skewed etc. but to take a shot at me, Let's just say you're not intelligent enough to do so. I'm no confirmed liar like the wuss Russian Rocket and would never set myself up to be distrbuting information that would allow myself to be questioned. I deal in facts and no "Conspiracy theories"

Now, break apart this Deagel group and show where they are some kinda fraud. This is what I'm hoping can be done, but haven't been able to see any cracks in who Deagel is and how they gather information. In-fact they seem legit.

[recon1]

Wish I had more $ to relocate....sure i'd be in the wheelhouse taken out lol...

I hear ya. My advice is stay put. Places to go like Central and South America will not be Gringo friendly when the Dollar is useless. I've got deep connections in those regions and can tell you with confidence those places are great for us under current circumstances, but would change overnight under a different global structure.

[PaperTrail07]

Oh 100% but if you move earlier than later your all good....anyone scrambling after the fact is always in trouble...

I hear ya. My advice is stay put. Places to go like Central and South America will not be Gringo friendly when the Dollar is useless. I've got deep connections in those regions and can tell you with confidence those places are great for us under current circumstances, but would change overnight under a different global structure.

[muldoon]

"according" to who? did you not read how and whom Deagel gathers information from? here it is again for the comprehension impaired.
Sources: US Department of Defense, Department of State, CIA, World Bank and European Union.
.

Yet none of those sources say anything about his main premise.

(in small print at the bottom below his recently cleaned up charts...something he did when the "rense" crowd started forwarding this link a few months back)

The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds

[recon1]

Oh 100% but if you move earlier than later your all good....anyone scrambling after the fact is always in trouble...

If you are in place and established now perhaps. I do suggest to lay-low and learn to speak the native tongue with absolutely no hint of accent. When in Rome…….

[recon1]

Yet none of those sources say anything about his main premise.

(in small print at the bottom below his recently cleaned up charts...something he did when the "rense" crowd started forwarding this link a few months back)

See, now you're talking. Break the report down not the reporter. I'll look latter to see what you have noticed, but who and what is "Rense"?

[muldoon]

but who and what is "Rense"?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rense

[PaperTrail07]

Wall St cracks me up....its built on insider trading yet its illegal lol...

Yet none of those sources say anything about his main premise.

(in small print at the bottom below his recently cleaned up charts...something he did when the "rense" crowd started forwarding this link a few months back)

[PaperTrail07]

100% --ive always wondered what would happen if shit hit the fan...seen cities go 2-3 weeks without electric and it was beginning to look like water world lol....The speed at which thing could/can go down is mind blowing...its as simple as controlling clean water, electric and food...

If you are in place and established now perhaps. I do suggest to lay-low and learn to speak the native tongue with absolutely no hint of accent. When in Rome…….

[recon1]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rense

Ok, not sure why a radio show host has to do with anything, but least i know who Jeff Rense is.

I've read Deagel's disclaimer and explanation before, but Deagel came out in early October and said the reasoning for the depopulation was because of a hacker and they'd clear it up. Now Deagel is saying what they forecasted was correct. It's hard to refute them because over the years they have proven accurate.


From Deagel:
We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe - suffering a similar illness - won't be relevant. Nevertheless the death toll will be horrible.

This whole explanation makes zero sense. What i'm seeing is a trend in forecast that has nothing to do with explanation given by Deagel. Deagel is saying most of this forecast is based on some sort of pandemic, coupled with market collapse in the USA. Then why is the forecast similar to other Anglo-saxon type nations? Only us and them will suffer this forecast? Deagel references virus like ebola etc as a cause, but ebola allegedly originates from Africa and African nations in forecast aren't showing any loss such as Anglo type nations where Christianity is predominate.

Whole thing is fishier than Madonna's gash.

Normally i'd laugh it off, but Deagel has proven accurate in past.

[recon1]

100% --ive always wondered what would happen if shit hit the fan...seen cities go 2-3 weeks without electric and it was beginning to look like water world lol....The speed at which thing could/can go down is mind blowing...its as simple as controlling clean water, electric and food...

Don't ask me how i exactly i know, but i do (i'm well read, seriously) but you have 72 hours when SHTF to get to a safe spot. first 48 is like a vacation for folks, then as you approach the third day when it settles into minds of sheeple shit is worse than thought the primitive mindset takes place.
Also, hurricane Andrew was a good lesson i learned.

[scumbag]

you're a penetrating idiot, recon.

[recon1]

you're a penetrating idiot, recon.

Coming from a "Lady boy" loving scumbag, i find that a compliment.

[The Kraken]

Because you're too dumb to be insulted

[Kermit]

[existential]

Ok, not sure why a radio show host has to do with anything, but least i know who Jeff Rense is.

I've read Deagel's disclaimer and explanation before, but Deagel came out in early October and said the reasoning for the depopulation was because of a hacker and they'd clear it up. Now Deagel is saying what they forecasted was correct. It's hard to refute them because over the years they have proven accurate.


From Deagel:
We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe - suffering a similar illness - won't be relevant. Nevertheless the death toll will be horrible.

This whole explanation makes zero sense. What i'm seeing is a trend in forecast that has nothing to do with explanation given by Deagel. Deagel is saying most of this forecast is based on some sort of pandemic, coupled with market collapse in the USA. Then why is the forecast similar to other Anglo-saxon type nations? Only us and them will suffer this forecast? Deagel references virus like ebola etc as a cause, but ebola allegedly originates from Africa and African nations in forecast aren't showing any loss such as Anglo type nations where Christianity is predominate.

Whole thing is fishier than Madonna's gash.

Normally i'd laugh it off, but Deagel has proven accurate in past.

Actually, you're wrong. Not sure how you would've missed it, but read the last sentence in their 2nd paragraph:

By the way, no pandemic or nuclear war is included in the forecast.

[TheMoneyShot]

recon - in a nutshell... (without reading between the lines) why is the population decreasing? I don't clearly understand.

[recon1]

Actually, you're wrong. Not sure how you would've missed it, but read the last sentence in their 2nd paragraph:

By the way, no pandemic or nuclear war is included in the forecast.

Amazes me with the conclusion jumpers and how quick they are to say: "You're wrong" without refuting the message at hand, not the messenger. Yes, Deagel said the information they compiled that had them decrease our population wasn't from pandemic or nuclear war, but in that same paragraph you mentioned Deagel is clearly refrencing a pandemic. It is no doubt they are saying a pandemic will be a cause.

Despite the numeric data "quantity" there is a "quality" model which has not a direct translation into numeric data. The 2014 strain of Ebola has a death rate of 50-60% but try to imagine what would happen if there is a pandemic of Ebola with hundreds of thousands or millions infected with the virus. So far the few cases of Ebola-infected people have "enjoyed" intensive healthcare with anti-viral and breathing assistance but above all with abundant human support by Physicians and nurses. In a pandemic scenario that kind of healthcare won't be available for the overwhelming number of infected leading to a dramatic increase of the death rate due to the lack of proper healthcare. The "quality" factor is that the death rate could increase to 80-90% in a pandemic scenario from the stated 50-60% rate. The figure itself is not important what is relevant is the fact that the scenario can evolve beyond the initial conditions from a 50% death toll to more than 90%. By the way, no pandemic or nuclear war is included in the forecast.

Now, a thinking person reading that paragraph in full would be able to surmise Deagel in fact is stating illness, disease etc. is in the mix. no doubt they are contradicting themselves.
Deagel first came out said a hacker caused the population numbers (69 million originally) and they'd rectify it. Well, they did down to 65 million and released the aforementioned statement and now they are unavaliable for further comment. Most people would laugh this company off with all the contradictory used car salesman talk, but this group has proven to be accurate and legtimate.
My thinking is that Deagel contradicts themselves in the paragraph (you quickly declared i was wrong about) because of legal ramifications. If a pandemic came-about and killed that many people that would not be a prediction, but an accomplice with at least inside information to nefarious wrong-doers. It's not like predicting a monetary collapse which is legal and done by simply looking at open financial forms etc.
Clearly Deagel either knows something or they think they do. 80% of population doesn't go away or die for financial crisis.
Also, hopefully nobody believes that this 18+ trillion debt was by accident.

[recon1]

recon - in a nutshell... (without reading between the lines) why is the population decreasing? I don't clearly understand.

I think i've got a good gasp with what's going on. Without going into insane detail for a lot of reasons…….Pray to the God of Jesus, ask for guidance. Dealing with some serious insane MOFO's.

[existential]

Amazes me with the conclusion jumpers and how quick they are to say: "You're wrong" without refuting the message at hand, not the messenger. Yes, Deagel said the information they compiled that had them decrease our population wasn't from pandemic or nuclear war, but in that same paragraph you mentioned Deagel is clearly refrencing a pandemic. It is no doubt they are saying a pandemic will be a cause.

Despite the numeric data "quantity" there is a "quality" model which has not a direct translation into numeric data. The 2014 strain of Ebola has a death rate of 50-60% but try to imagine what would happen if there is a pandemic of Ebola with hundreds of thousands or millions infected with the virus. So far the few cases of Ebola-infected people have "enjoyed" intensive healthcare with anti-viral and breathing assistance but above all with abundant human support by Physicians and nurses. In a pandemic scenario that kind of healthcare won't be available for the overwhelming number of infected leading to a dramatic increase of the death rate due to the lack of proper healthcare. The "quality" factor is that the death rate could increase to 80-90% in a pandemic scenario from the stated 50-60% rate. The figure itself is not important what is relevant is the fact that the scenario can evolve beyond the initial conditions from a 50% death toll to more than 90%. By the way, no pandemic or nuclear war is included in the forecast.

Now, a thinking person reading that paragraph in full would be able to surmise Deagel in fact is stating illness, disease etc. is in the mix. no doubt they are contradicting themselves.
Deagel first came out said a hacker caused the population numbers (69 million originally) and they'd rectify it. Well, they did down to 65 million and released the aforementioned statement and now they are unavaliable for further comment. Most people would laugh this company off with all the contradictory used car salesman talk, but this group has proven to be accurate and legtimate.
My thinking is that Deagel contradicts themselves in the paragraph (you quickly declared i was wrong about) because of legal ramifications. If a pandemic came-about and killed that many people that would not be a prediction, but an accomplice with at least inside information to nefarious wrong-doers. It's not like predicting a monetary collapse which is legal and done by simply looking at open financial forms etc.
Clearly Deagel either knows something or they think they do. 80% of population doesn't go away or die for financial crisis.
Also, hopefully nobody believes that this 18+ trillion debt was by accident.

You're drawing too many false conclusions from what I said. I'm not here to support or refute Deagel's forecast or their organization, I hadn't even heard of them until I read this thread. I really don't care if their forecast proves accurate or not. According to you, they've been accurate in the past, so I'll assume that to be true and give them the benefit of the doubt.

My comment was solely based upon reading their explanation. And yes, while it contains some shadow elements in itsimplications, it still flatly states that no pandemic or nuclear war is included in the forecast. For me, that's a black and white statement that's not worthy of a subsequent argument centered around semantics about what might not be (as you're suggesting) "legal" for them to say.

In fact, it's their very next sentence (and subsequent paragraph) that contains their explanation: The key element to understand the process that the USA will enter in the upcoming decade is migration. And this predicted 'migration' is solely based on the collapse of the Western financial system. Again, nothing to do with a public health-related pandemic. So maybe it's just me, but I don't find their explanation that hard to understand.

Now, are they right? Again, who knows. And I don't care one way or another. I have no agenda where they're concerned, so don't take it personal. I suppose on a conversational level, I find the subject moderately interesting, but I'm totally neutral to their population forecast and explanation.

[brooks85]

they are correct on most of it but they forgot one thing; this is Hotel California. Migration won't be happening.

[recon1]

You're drawing too many false conclusions from what I said. I'm not here to support or refute Deagel's forecast or their organization, I hadn't even heard of them until I read this thread. I really don't care if their forecast proves accurate or not. According to you, they've been accurate in the past, so I'll assume that to be true and give them the benefit of the doubt.

My comment was solely based upon reading their explanation. And yes, while it contains some shadow elements in itsimplications, it still flatly states that no pandemic or nuclear war is included in the forecast. For me, that's a black and white statement that's not worthy of a subsequent argument centered around semantics about what might not be (as you're suggesting) "legal" for them to say.

In fact, it's their very next sentence (and subsequent paragraph) that contains their explanation: The key element to understand the process that the USA will enter in the upcoming decade is migration. And this predicted 'migration' is solely based on the collapse of the Western financial system. Again, nothing to do with a public health-related pandemic. So maybe it's just me, but I don't find their explanation that hard to understand.

Now, are they right? Again, who knows. And I don't care one way or another. I have no agenda where they're concerned, so don't take it personal. I suppose on a conversational level, I find the subject moderately interesting, but I'm totally neutral to their population forecast and explanation.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree to a point. The paragraph we are refrencing is obvious double-talk.

All i wanted was to create a discussion about the report and i appreciate your thoughts.

[brooks85]

ted cruz asked pentagon about jade helm, just now saw that

[brooks85]

http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-r...val-imf-2015-5

countdown is ticking

[The Kraken]

http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-r...val-imf-2015-5

countdown is ticking

The Byzantines knew what the fukk they were doin

[brooks85]

yeah they had quite a history, they were the "new rome" set up by Constantine after the Western half crumbled. Also when he, and his mother, indoctrinated the world with Christianity. Not saying it was a bad thing, just the reasoning why Christianity exploded.


Anyone who plans on being alive in 20 years better not put another dollar into your SSC.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102659216

[PAULYPOKER]

http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-r...val-imf-2015-5

countdown is ticking

I posted about this shit over a year and a half ago..


Invest in BRIC now!!!!!!!!!

The US dollar will be no more by 2015..........

If you thought my Bitcoin prediction was amazing......

Wait until you get a load of this one.........

No questions.........

Do own investigating.......

[brooks85]

I posted about this shit over a year and a half ago..


Invest in BRIC now!!!!!!!!!

well hopefully no one did any investing on that shit or they'd most likely be broke; or at best left a fortune on the table, still many years away from the collapse but it is coming. The only thing you should have been investing in 2013 was money into US stock market.


what I posted is Putin actually ratifying the money they are going to put in.

[PAULYPOKER]

You really want to know how the US is going to rapidly down size in population?

GMO/big pharma/Monsanto/Phizer/Pharmacia LLC!!!
The US is the ONLY country in the world who lets GMO run rampant with absolutely no regulations..
In fact they write their own riles/laws and regulations..

So basically every US citizen who buys their food from any big box or chained grocery store are nothing but lab rats waiting for the effect of long term GMO consumption..



Every human is a walking ATM machine in Monsanto and Phizer's Pharmacia LLC's eyes.


This is common sense..

Anyone with a 3rd grade or higher reading level can see this if they choose.;.

[PAULYPOKER]

Most all developed countries have banned GMO's,

While the US government says>We can't wait for the industry to pump out the next GMO..