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    L-O-effin-L at the sheep from both sides in this thread. Carry on, kiddies. Baaaaaaaaaah!

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    Has anyone met a bigger moron than andy the wacko?

    This brainwashed idiot blames the Democrats for every problem yet cant name a single thing they did wrong. This neozombie claimed the Democrats repealed the Car Tax in California yet has been unable to prove it. Maybe because FACTS are Ahnuld repealed it with a simple signature on the Executive Order. The racist then blames the illegals yet IRS says 6 million illegals file income tax returns and Congressional Budget Office says 75% of them pay federal, state and local taxes! They contribute $7 Billion to Social Security each year! And of course in typical andy the wacko response, the idiot ignores these facts to rant about the illegals some more.

    andy the wacko further proves his ignorance by blaming the Democrats for the mortgage meltdown. When asked why Dumbya passed The Downpayment Initiative which gave hundreds of millions to the poor to help them buy homes, he had no answer and completely ignored it.

    It's no wonder why this idiot spends 24/7 talking politics on a sports forum..... probably got laughed out of every political forum on the net. He's obviously not here to talk sports as he only bets 3 team parlays and live in-game like a clueless fuk that he is.

    We all saw what neonitwits are capable of between 2001-2008......

    1) Ignoring al Qaeda threats..... Dumbya was repeatedly warned about hijacking yet he went golfing and month long vacations. 911 Commission found that Dumbya had the proverbial "Blue Print" to al Qaeda's plans and did nothing to stop it.

    2) Ignored repeated warnings from Fannie Mae & HUD regulators about the impending mortgage crisis. Dumbya even fired the chief regulator who published his warnings. He also allowed SEC to deregulate banks allowing them to take on massive subprime debt which ultimately led to their demise.

    3) Invaded Iraq on falsified evidence. Dumbya had plans back in 1999 to invade according to his own biographer. This wasnt about 9-11 or freedom, it was about a draft dodger playing mas macho in the comfort & safety of the White House against an unarmed opponent. This wet dream of his cost Americans $1 Trillion and 4300 US soldiers their lives.

    4) Manipulated gas prices to as high as $5/gal. I love how neo-zombies claim Dumbya lowered taxes, but then what do you call paying 3X at the pump????????? His buddies at the oil companies made record profits and thus paid higher taxes, which directly went to pay for the war.

    There are many many more ways you neonitwits nearly destroyed not just America but the entire world. Thank god for Obama!

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    you are insane.

    There is nothing you just said that is remotely close to accurate but sadly you believe it to be true. Most crazy people don't realize they are nuts. Your "Thank god for Obama!" comment only proves my point.

    you are HOPEless



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunder View Post
    Political preachers of any stripe are sad people.
    Fwiw, my own personal leanings are well to the right.
    My thoughts exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    Got to love great aunts!

    I can't see how you can be a liberal and a sports fan at the same time. A Dream liberal NFL Season would have every team finish at 8-8 and every team get a trophy and every player would receive a first place participation ribbon.

    Quote Originally Posted by losturmarbles View Post
    You do realize he was suggesting a leveling of results and not opportunity, right?
    You do realize that he was suggesting a straw man argument, right?

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    Dwight..... another clueless neo-zombie.

    Everything I have said Ive backed up with multiple sources including NYTimes, Washington Post, Wikipedia, Ahnuld's own speeches and Dumbya's own press releases..... yet Dwight the neonitwit continues ignore FACTS like a good little brainwashed neo-zombie that he is. He claims they are all "leftist lies" while referencing neo-con websites that employ Ann Coulters and Pat Buchanan and chain letters as his sources. Yeah, I know.... you cant make this shit up. If NY Times and Washington Post are bunch of liars then it should be easy to expose them, thus bankrupting them. So why arent they doing it?
    I mean what good is a newspaper without integrity and trustworthiness?

    Just goes to show how far these brainless neo-zombies have been brainwashed by that pill popping pumpkin-head who once declared all druggies should be sent up the river. Yet copped a plea bargain so he doesnt goto jail himself. What a hypocritical jackass.

    Yes, neonitwits keep listening to this criminal con-artist........ he'll just keep getting richer and popping more pills while you idiots continue to get fukkked by your party.

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    Notice how every single one of DaggerKobe's posts are filled with expletives, insults and name calling. He knows he doesn't have a leg to stand on so he fills his posts with this garbage in hopes of deflecting the readers train of thought.
    It's no wonder why this idiot spends 24/7 talking politics on a sports forum..... probably got laughed out of every political forum on the net. He's obviously not here to talk sports as he only bets 3 team parlays and live in-game like a clueless fuk that he is.
    DaggerKobe (Joined 03-25-08)/10,643 posts Andywend (joined 05-20-07)/883 posts and this idiot says I spend 24/7 posting on this forum.
    You continue to run off at the mouth but then immediately back off when challenged. Once again, I will wager $10,000 with you on who can book the most profits at Matchbook over a 3 month period (01/01/2010 to 03/31/2010). The winner is the one with the highest profit in strict dollar terms over the 3 month period. Instead of responding back with posts filled with expletives and insults, why don't you back up that mouth of yours with action instead of hollow words?
    1) Ignoring al Qaeda threats..... Dumbya was repeatedly warned about hijacking yet he went golfing and month long vacations. 911 Commission found that Dumbya had the proverbial "Blue Print" to al Qaeda's plans and did nothing to stop it.
    So I guess Obama was responsible for the attempted terrorist hijacking that occurred on Northwest Airlines on Christmas?

    Once again, left-wing groups like the ACLU went absolutely nuts when young Muslim men were being searched by airport security right AFTER the 9/11 tragedy. These same left-wing lunatics fight tooth and nail defending this terrorist scum while DEMANDING that they are entitled to U.S. constitutional protections. Liberal democrats will always be the problem NEVER the solution.
    2) Ignored repeated warnings from Fannie Mae & HUD regulators about the impending mortgage crisis. Dumbya even fired the chief regulator who published his warnings. He also allowed SEC to deregulate banks allowing them to take on massive subprime debt which ultimately led to their demise.
    1999's Financial Services Modernization Act -- better known under the names of its authors Gramm-Leach-Bliley -- which, amongst other things:

    • Repeal[ed] the restrictions on banks affiliating with securities firms contained in sections 20 and 32 of the Glass-Steagall Act.
    • Create[d] a new "financial holding company" under section 4 of the Bank Holding Company Act. Such holding company can engage in a statutorily provided list of financial activities, including insurance and securities underwriting and agency activities, merchant banking and insurance company portfolio investment activities. Activities that are "complementary" to financial activities also are authorized. The nonfinancial activities of firms predominantly engaged in financial activities (at least 85% financial) are grandfathered for at least 10 years, with a possibility for a five year extension.
    For those unfamiliar, the Glass-Steagall Act was the 1933 legislation separating the functions of banks, brokerage firms, and insurance companies designed to prevent another crash like what occurred in 1929. Congress has been whittling away at these restrictions since 1980, and finally removed the last vestiges with Gramm-Leach-Bliley in 1999.
    Readers are advised that this bill passed by a vote of 362-57 in the House, and 90-8 in the Senate. As such, it passed with overwhelming bipartisan support.
    Maybe more important, as it was signed into law on November 12, 1999, despite all the blame disgraceful Democrats and media members have been assigning President Bush during this financial crisis, he had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the legislation that allowed financial institutions to engage in the activities that have led to and caused the current banking and lending meltdown.
    Absolutely nothing.
    3) Invaded Iraq on falsified evidence. Dumbya had plans back in 1999 to invade according to his own biographer. This wasnt about 9-11 or freedom, it was about a draft dodger playing mas macho in the comfort & safety of the White House against an unarmed opponent. This wet dream of his cost Americans $1 Trillion and 4300 US soldiers their lives.
    Provide concrete evidence that the intelligence on Iraq was falsified. Bush gave the democrats every chance to object to the war but they voted 29-21 in favor and only changed their minds AFTER things became difficult. TYPICAL WORTHLESS GOOD FOR NOTHING DEMOCRATS running for cover when things get tough.
    4) Manipulated gas prices to as high as $5/gal. I love how neo-zombies claim Dumbya lowered taxes, but then what do you call paying 3X at the pump????????? His buddies at the oil companies made record profits and thus paid higher taxes, which directly went to pay for the war.
    It takes a special kind of left-wing lunatic to accuse Bush of manipulating gas prices. This statement all by itself proves what an IDIOT you are.

    Instead of posting over 500X each and every month on this forum, why don't you get a job and start producing for the good of the country, YOU WORTHLESS BUM!!!!

    DaggerKobe, you will always WREAK OF FAILURE.

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    andy, you know i am a big fan

    you need to visit me in hong kong and see true capitalism at work, leave the pc dorks at home

    you make money here, you keep it

    let dagger and his gang have whats left of america, who cares, it will never return to its glory, just like england, kiss it goodbye

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    Let's see here.....

    andy the wacko became jealous of my betting record and challenged me to a cap off. i eagerly accepted because anyone that bets 3 team parlays is a complete moron. That's when the backpeddling begins..... he says that he wont post picks beforehand because he only bets futures and in-game. HUH??????? Then how the fuk am I gonna verify that he bet the lines he claims? No line service posts live lines that I know of. So basically I have to take this liars word for it? NOT!!!! Post your picks BEFORE they start like a MAN not a clueless pussy that you always prove yourself to be. Not to mention the fraud refuses to post up at Matchbook but wants to post up with one of his ghosts. Keep backpeddling Michael Jackson...... you FRAUD.

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    WTF,

    As you know, I'm a big fan of yours as well for having the foresight to pack up and leave right before these politically correct TICKS bring down the host.

    Everything I care about is in the U.S. and I desparately want to see my country turn things around. Unfortunately, these left-wing parasites like DaggerKobe are only growing in number and its now only a question of when NOT if my country is going to completely self-destruct.

    When it does, whats to stop these left-wing leeches from invading and sucking the blood out of Hong Kong or any place else on the face of the Earth that believes in true capitalism?

    The cancer of socialism has been spreading like a wildfire for quite some time. It has infected almost every major country on the planet and the U.S. was the last real resistance. I knew that TARP bill last year was the end of true capitalism for the U.S. What I didn't know was how quickly socialism can destroy a country.

    Enjoy Hong Kong and congratulations.

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    Isnt it just like andy the wacko to hide the fact that the Glass-Steagall Act was repealed by the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.... named after the three REPUBLICONS that introduced it???????? I know....... SHOCKING!

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    Remember when you were a kid and you believed in Santa Claus?

    Well there came at time, maybe you were 7, 8, 9, 10 , 11 or 12 where you said to yourself..

    WTF man, this guy can't friggen make it to all the houses in one night delivering presents. Have I been duked all this time? My parents? My teachers? TV? You start to doubt he exists but don't want to admit that you were sucked into believing it.

    Next xmas comes around and you are a year older and you know that this Santa Claus thing is all a big ass lie and get it now. How could I have been go gulible all these years? All those letters I sent to the North Pole WTF! Who the **** ate all those cookies?

    The point is, eventually you have to admit that you were wrong about something. Some can but some will never admit they are wrong , no matter what you tell and show them.

    Dagger, you still believe in the fat man in the red suite that flies around in a sleigh with his reindeer once a year, that's obvious. You must, because you still believe in Obama and all his lies about transparency etc etc and All those left wing goofy comments you just keep regurgitating about Bush.

    I choose to grow up and call a spade a spade.

    There a re 2 types of people out there, I am a free thinker and not a puppet.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governm...ortgage_crisis

    The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) has conceded that self-regulation of investment banks contributed to the crisis. The SEC relaxed rules in 2004 that enabled investment banks to substantially increase the level of debt they were taking on, fueling the growth in mortgage-backed securities supporting subprime mortgages.[7][8]

    The top five US investment banks each significantly increased their financial leverage during the 2004–2007 time period (see diagram), which increased their vulnerability to the MBS losses. These five institutions reported over $4.1 trillion in debt for fiscal year 2007, a figure roughly 30% the size of the U.S. economy. Three of the five either went bankrupt (Lehman Brothers) or were sold at fire-sale prices to other banks (Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch) during 2008, creating instability in the global financial system. The remaining two converted to commercial bank models in order to qualify for Troubled Asset Relief Program funds (Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley).[9]

    The SEC is also responsible for establishing financial disclosure rules. Critics have argued that disclosure throughout the crisis was ineffective, particularly regarding the health of financial institutions and the valuation of mortgage-backed securities.[10][11]

    President Bush advocated the "Ownership society." According to the New York Times, "he pushed hard to expand home ownership, especially among minorities, an initiative that dovetailed with his ambition to expand the Republican tent — and with the business interests of some of his biggest donors. But his housing policies and hands-off approach to regulation encouraged lax lending standards." He insisted that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (the GSE) meet low-income housing goals and advocated government loans to help low-income homeowners make down-payments. The Bush administration also replaced Fannie and Freddie's chief regulator in 2003 immediately after the regulator published a report warning of the risks posed by the GSE.[68]

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    Remember when you were a kid and you believed in Santa Claus?

    Well there came at time, maybe you were 7, 8, 9, 10 , 11 or 12 where you said to yourself..

    WTF man, this guy can't friggen make it to all the houses in one night delivering presents. Have I been duked all this time? My parents? My teachers? TV? You start to doubt he exists but don't want to admit that you were sucked into believing it.

    Next xmas comes around and you are a year older and you know that this Santa Claus thing is all a big ass lie and get it now. How could I have been go gulible all these years? All those letters I sent to the North Pole WTF! Who the **** ate all those cookies?

    The point is, eventually you have to admit that you were wrong about something. Some can abut some will never admit they are wrong , no matter what you tell and show them.

    Dagger, you still believe in the fat man in the red suite that flies around in a sleigh with his reindeer once a year, that's obvious. You must, because you still believe in Obama and all his lies about transparency etc etc and All those left wing goofy comments you just keep regurgitating about Bush.

    I choose to grow up and call a spade a spade.

    There a re 2 types of people out there, I am a free thinker and not a puppet.


    I ask him about Dumbya passing "The Downpayment Act" to help the poor buy homes when he claims Dumbya was running around DC trying to warn everyone of the mortgage crisis and he rants about Santa Claus?

    Now everyone knows what a wackjob this guy is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daggerkobe View Post


    I ask him about Dumbya passing "The Downpayment Act" to help the poor buy homes when he claims Dumbya was running around DC trying to warn everyone of the mortgage crisis and he rants about Santa Claus?

    Now everyone knows what a wackjob this guy is.
    I never expected to to understand or get the analogy.

    Judging by the same ole goofy comments you make, I know that you would say something other than red and blue if asked, what colors are these. HOPEless


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    Dwight,

    This thread has provided ample proof that "political liberals are sad people".
    They spend their entire lives whining and complaining about how unfair everything is.
    They despise all those who are able to succeed on their own because they CAN NOT.

    Unfortunately, in a free society there will always be more FAILURE/MEDIOCRITY than success so the democrats have a huge built in advantage.

    If it wasn't for the stupidity of democratic party leaders, we wouldn't stand a chance.

    All you have to do is read the content of DaggerKobe's posts to know he is a low class BUM. He is forced to relive his own personal nightmare day after day. Imagine the movie "Groundhog Day" gone really bad and you have the pathetic existence that is DaggerKobe.

    May every one of his days continue to be filled with misery and disgust as that is what he truly deserves.

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    Presidential candidate George W. Bush tells prominent Texas author and Bush family friend Mickey Herskowitz, who is helping Bush write an autobiography, that as president he would invade Iraq if given the opportunity. “One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief,” Herskowitz remembers Bush saying. “My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of [Kuwait] and he wasted it. If I have a chance to invade Iraq, if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.” Herskowitz later says he believes Bush’s comments were intended to distinguish himself from his father, rather than express a desire to invade Iraq. [HOUSTON CHRONICLE, 10/31/2004]

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    Andy,

    The Groundhog Day movie analogy is a perfect one and you are right when you say it's HOPEless.


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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3056626.stm

    The CIA warned the US Government that claims about Iraq's nuclear ambitions were not true months before President Bush used them to make his case for war, the BBC has learned.

    Doubts about a claim that Iraq had tried to buy uranium from the African state of Niger were aired 10 months before Mr Bush included the allegation in his key State of the Union address this year, a CIA official has told the BBC.

    On Tuesday, the White House for the first time officially acknowledged that the Niger claim was wrong and suggested it should not have been used in the president's State of the Union speech in January.

    Given the fact that the report on the yellow cake did not turn out to be accurate, that is reflective of the president's broader statement
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    Uranium row in quotes
    But the CIA official has said that a former US diplomat had already established the claim was false in March 2002 - and that the information had been passed on to government departments, including the White House, well before Mr Bush mentioned it in the speech.

    Both President Bush and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair mentioned the claim, based on British intelligence, that Iraq was trying to get uranium from Niger as part of its attempt to build a nuclear weapons programme.

    Mr Blair is under fire from British MPs about the credibility of a dossier of evidence, which set out his case for war.

    And in the US, increasing doubts are being raised about the American use of intelligence.

    Forged documents

    In his keynote speech to Congress in January, the President said: "The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

    But the documents alleging a transaction were found to have been forged.

    White House spokesman Ari Fleischer appeared to concede on Tuesday that the uranium claim in the State of the Union address was based on inaccurate information.

    "The president's statement was based on the predicate of the yellow cake [uranium] from Niger," Mr Fleischer said.

    "So given the fact that the report on the yellow cake did not turn out to be accurate, that is reflective of the president's broader statement."

    The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.
    President George W Bush

    Mr Bush's State of the Union address
    But a former US diplomat, Ambassador Joseph Wilson, went on the record at the weekend to say that he had travelled to Africa to investigate the uranium claims and found no evidence to support them.

    Now the CIA official has told the BBC that Mr Wilson's findings had been passed onto the White House as early as March 2002.

    That means that the administration would have known nearly a year before the State of the Union address that the information was likely false.

    In response, a US Government official told the BBC that the White House received hundreds of intelligence reports every day.

    The official said there was no evidence that this specific cable about uranium had been passed on to the president.

    But in Congress, Democrats are demanding a full investigation into the intelligence that underpinned the case for war.

    They have demanded to know if President Bush used evidence that he knew to be weak or wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    Remember when you were a kid and you believed in Santa Claus? Well there came at time, maybe you were 7, 8, 9, 10 , 11 or 12 where you said to yourself..WTF man, this guy can't friggen make it to all the houses in one night delivering presents.
    I never said no shit like that to myself, are you trying to say theres no Santa Claus?


    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    Have I been duked all this time?
    Duped (doopt). Not "duked". Theres no such word as "duked". Save maybe in Pre-Cambrian Ice Age English you Neandertal.


    Quote Originally Posted by Daggerkobe View Post
    IRS says 6 million illegals file income tax returns and Congressional Budget Office says 75% of them pay federal, state and local taxes!
    This I think would be true because I have a friend who does over 650 tax returns a season, February to April 15, and over 90% of his business is Mexicans of...."questionable origin".

    And he's just a little tiny tax office, about the size of 42 WillieBees....made to stand pressed together.....in the shape of a square.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost Angel View Post
    I never said no shit like that to myself, are you trying to say theres no Santa Claus?
    Duped (doopt). Not "duked". Theres no such word as "duked". Save maybe in Pre-Cambrian Ice Age English you Neandertal.
    Sorry about ruining Christmas for you man!

    Thanks for Duped correction.

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    No wonder these neo-nitwits choose to live in a fantasy world with unicorns and dragons.

    History repeatedly shows them as liars and convicts.


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    "Waaaah, its not fair, its not fair"
    "He has so much and I have nothing"
    "Oh please, President Obama, take from him and give it to me"
    "You're not taking enough from him and I need more"

    History repeatedly shows that democrats are USELESS and incapable of taking care of themselves.

    Democrats are just like new-born puppies except they aren't cute, their bark is far more irritating and they NEVER grow up.

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    How Dumbya didnt manipulate oil prices........

    http://www.tompaine.com/articles/200...il_reserve.php

    2006 was the year that oil prices came close to breaching $80 per barrel. This was despite the fact that there were no significant supply interruptions and oil demand actually fell in industrialized countries. That raises the question of what caused the spike.

    It turns out there is good reason to believe that record oil prices may be due to our own strategic oil reserve, which the Bush administration may have been manipulating to drive up prices for the benefit of its clients. This is something Congress must investigate, and here is some preliminary evidence.

    Any finding of manipulation would go far beyond corruption and be close to economic treason, because when oil prices increase America must pay more for its imported oil. That, in turn, increases the trade deficit and our foreign debt. Alternatively, one can think of price manipulation as the equivalent of a tax increase on American families that is paid to foreign governments, including Iran. While some small energy scandals are under investigation by Congress, the big enchilada is the strategic oil reserve, which may have been “strategically” manipulated to drive up oil prices. The key to understanding this manipulation is demand and supply and oil storage capacity.

    The last three years have seen rapidly rising oil prices, and a tight oil market has meant that even small increases in demand have had large price impacts. During this period the Bush administration purposely expanded inventories of the strategic oil reserve, which rose from 600 million barrels in May 2003 to 700 million barrels in August 2005. The administration therefore increased demand by 125,000 barrels per day, and oil prices rose from 30 dollars per barrel to 70 dollars.

    As oil prices rose, Wall Street became increasingly engaged in commodity speculation (the destructive effects of which is a story for another day), and this is where storage matters. As speculators entered the market the spot price of crude oil rose above the futures price. However, buying spot oil means taking delivery, which requires storage capacity. By adding to the strategic reserve, the administration not only increased oil demand but also increased storage capacity because the oil it bought was stored in the strategic reserve’s caverns. That helped speculators by adding storage capacity vital for cornering the market.

    That brings us to today. Over the last month spot oil prices have been tumbling. The reason is that the market has finally run out of storage capacity, which means that all oil produced must now be immediately sold—and that has driven oil prices down. This suggests there has never been a supply shortage warranting seventy-five dollar oil, and absent the administration’s dealings, oil prices might not have risen as they did.

    The story does not end here. With private sector oil storage capacity exhausted, the administration has now announced its intention to double the size of the strategic oil reserve from 700 million barrels to 1.5 billion barrels, and it plans to start purchasing 100,000 barrels of oil per day.

    The result has been predictable, with the price of oil jumping from $50 to $55 per barrel over the last week (01/19- 01/24). Not only will these purchases increase oil demand, they will also provide new storage capacity needed to re-corner the market.

    One last piece of evidence concerns Hurricane Katrina and the oil loan program. Following Katrina, gulf oil production was interrupted causing shortages of crude for refineries. The administration’s response was to loan crude to refiners who were to pay it back in kind. That was a huge gift to refiners who got the oil they wanted and then made a killing on the processed gasoline that was in short supply after Katrina. The proper way to handle the situation would have been to auction the oil, in which case taxpayers would have got the windfall disaster rent (excess profit) resulting from Katrina. This is because refiners would have been willing to pay a high price knowing that gas prices were high.

    But there’s yet more damage. If government had auctioned the oil, it could have chosen when to buy it back. Instead, companies paid it back in kind in late 2005 and early 2006, and these payments tightened the market demand and also freed up private storage capacity facilitating further market cornering.

    The oil market is full of smoke that provides perfect cover for corruption. Every price blip calls forth explanations in terms of Chinese demand, more violence in Nigeria’s delta region, cold weather, threats from Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez or heightened tensions over Iran’s nuclear program. The strategic reserve is the perfect vehicle for corruption since transactions can be cloaked in the veil of national defense. But the*situation is*clear. A motive exists, the bad character of the administration is known and the circumstantial evidence is strong.

    Congress must investigate the strategic oil reserve, how it has been managed and what its purpose is. The recently announced expansion serves no real national security function (though that will be the justification) and will only drive up oil prices and add to the budget deficit and national debt.

    One last factoid. A recent IMF study documented that oil prices in the U.S. appear to be politically manipulated, falling prior to elections—as they did in 2002, 2004 and 2006. If you are an economist you ask how that is done. The answer is the strategic oil reserve.

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    hey dagger, you idiot fuk, get your mouth off of obamas rooster for a second and look at what that fuc ker is doing to this country, anyway go shoot yourself and quit copying and pasting your liberal lies, only idiots like you actually believe that shi t

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    My thoughts exactly.






    You do realize that he was suggesting a straw man argument, right?
    was he making an argument? i thought he was just being facetious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by losturmarbles View Post
    was he making an argument? i thought he was just being facetious.
    Yeah, I guess one could say that about any politicized statement like that.

    Maybe he was going cross-eyed trying to sort out the AFC wild card picture! lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by daggerkobe View Post
    One last factoid. A recent IMF study documented that oil prices in the U.S. appear to be politically manipulated, falling prior to elections—as they did in 2002, 2004 and 2006. If you are an economist you ask how that is done. The answer is the strategic oil reserve.
    Oh my effin' lord! Whoever wrote this is just now waking up to the "factoid" that oil and gas prices "appear to be politically manipulated." As Bruce Willis said in Die Hard, "Welcome to the party, pal!"

    And the sheep go,"Baaaaaaaaaah!"

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    Liberals make me laugh because all they do is preach tolerance and how we must include psycho islam terrorist, gay pride a-holes wearing butt-less leather chaps holding up traffic, illegal immigrants, blacks and women, while at the same time being the most intolerant people on the face on the earth.

    liberals love blacks as long as they vote democrat....Clarence Thomas anyone?

    liberals love women as long as they vote democrat...Palin anyone?

    liberals love hispanics as long as they vote democrat...Miguel Estrada anyone?

    you are only tolerant of people that agree with every lie you spew (global warming anyone?) and lap up your bullshit like some blind 3-legged dog getting leftovers from a thanksgiving dinner.

    and how can the phrase MERRY CHRISTMAS make you angry? dipshits...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Interesting

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    We assume the rich give more than the middle class, the middle class more than the poor. I've heard liberals care more about the less fortunate, so we assume they give more than conservatives do. Are these assumptions truth, or myth?...

    It turns out that this idea that liberals give more…is a myth. Of the top 25 states where people give an above average percent of their income, 24 were red states in the last presidential election.
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    That is such a cooked statistic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cappy View Post
    That is such a cooked statistic
    Maybe. But beyond that, it's irrelevant. What's the point of scrutinizing one's personal financial decisions? It sounds like a step towards behavioral moralizing, authoritarian communist statism.

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    the only thing that means anything to both parties

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