[Fidel_CashFlow]

I held an unbiased opinion when Trayvon Martin was killed,

and genuinely thought he got a raw deal .

I tried to understand the Mike Brown situation , but could not come to a decision either way on it.

And have always thought I gave black people their fair shake......

but after this video below, I believe I might be a little racist now.




You gotta be kidding me ? White people are FAR from the problem in all this.

That videos message was annoyingly presented and very biased against us white folk

In my existence of 32 years on earth , I personally, have seen more blind hate from black people

towards whites then I have seen the other way around. This video really rubbed me the wrong way.

Im not sure what I expected when I clicked play, but it certainly wasnt that bullshit I heard.

The way these kids are talking in this video is part of the vicious cycle

on why they grow up to think(and act out) the way they do .

Using kids to push race politics is lower then low

[Fidel_CashFlow]

sorry if a bit pumped up over that video

But im noticing that this flux in "white guilt" is starting to hurt our race.

Because of isolated events, we are becoming more and more fearful to speak our minds

It doesnt matter if its backed by stats or truth, I can see what is slowly happening here .

Imagine if that video started off " Hey Black People" .... it would be labeled 100% racist regardless

what the rest of the video content consisted of .

And this is all coming from a guy that will tell a black person directly to their face that I have felt more racism

from them towards my people then the other way around. Think im kidding ? I party (at work) with black people

at least 15+ times in my 3 years working at a hotel . Ill smoke/drink with them , even spit some raps with them

But , at least a handful of times I have gotten into a race conversation with some of emm and stated my true feelings

without hesitation . Everytime , outside of one instance, they went from being super cool with me , to instantly

looking at me like I was the enemy. Ill never be afraid to speak my mind to them, and by that I mean in real life directly

face to face in the flesh . But ive noticed lately a lot of people im around are scared to voice their opinions .

Facts are facts, if black ppl want to be looked at in a dif light, start worrying less about pulling the god damn race card

and start working collectively together(as a race) at declining the alarming statistics of crime that are documented

blacks make up only 12 percent of United States population,

yet commit

50% of the murders

50 percent of the rapes

60% of armed robberies


http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...decoverviewpdf

[Ralphie Halves]

The way these kids are talking in this video is part of the vicious cycle

on why they grow up to think(and act out) the way they do .

Yeah, too snarky to make a point. White people are racist as fuk, we already know that. Black people have done little to change anyone's attitude towards them. Maybe they should worry more about the cause instead of the effect.

Anyway, I said it before, don't judge blacks by the ones in St. Louis. I grew up here, very close to Ferguson. Way too many blacks here had victim complexes, played the race card ALL the time, and were just itching to act out the second anything even remotely perceived as racism was heard, or they just simply didn't get their way. When I started traveling the country and after I moved out of state, I almost never saw it like I did back home. Heard everywhere in St. Louis county.....

Mostly white school actually beat a mostly black school in basketball for once?? "Racist refs" (they won by 25 and the fouls were even, so I doubt that)

Walgreens wouldn't honor your coupon that expired 6 months ago? "Man, there's some RACISM going on right here."

Can't get into a club/restaurant because you violate the dress code that's clearly posted outside the door? "That's muthafukkin racist!!!" (often followed by vandalism or violence)

I saw it all first-hand, all the time.

Not to mention the thousands of young black males that turned a lot of St. Louis into no-go areas (Top 5 in murders every year!!), and take the Metro-Link into wealthier areas to purse-snatch and shoplift. They can't have things stay the way they are and/or get worse and expect the rest of the America to just be okay with it because you say so.

This is totally unfair to black people as a whole, people in Ferguson should not be the ones carrying the torch for anti-racism, and we see why in the video. Ferguson got a golden ticket last month to actually end up having some good come out of this in the end on a global scale, but it looks like they're screwing this up too.

I'm pretty sure most whites wish society wasn't this way with our sour attitudes towards each other -- but there are reasons why it's like this. And instead of attacking those problems, we should just go with the "hey you, stop feeling that way" victim approach?? Dumb.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

appreciate the well written response Ralphie.

Every year I spend damn near a month in St Louis.

I live approx 2 hours away from the Lou and do a lot of dif shit there

Hardly been in any squabbles with anyone there, white or black (so far) thankfully.

You was so on point Im not sure what I can really say in objection to your post....




One part I am not sure if I understood fully was this part.


"I'm pretty sure most whites wish society wasn't this way with our sour attitudes towards each other -- but there are reasons why it's like this. And instead of attacking those problems, we should just go with the "hey you, stop feeling that way" victim approach?? Dumb."



I cant figure out from what viewpoint you are basing that line on .

Are you saying that blacks should quit with the victim approach

or that whites need to be more open minded to the struggles that black people face

in todays society ... and can have a tendency to generalize when considering dif instances involving the

opposite race ?

[Ralphie Halves]

One part I am not sure if I understood fully was this part.


"I'm pretty sure most whites wish society wasn't this way with our sour attitudes towards each other -- but there are reasons why it's like this. And instead of attacking those problems, we should just go with the "hey you, stop feeling that way" victim approach?? Dumb."



I cant figure out from what viewpoint you are basing that line on .

Are you saying that blacks should quit with the victim approach

or that whites need to be more open minded to the struggles that black people face

in todays society ... and can have a tendency to generalize when considering dif instances involving the

opposite race ?

I'm trying to show the silliness of this one-size-fits-all approach to "ending racism" (which is like trying to get rid of sand). These anti-racism t-shirts and campaigns, to me at least, go something like this....

Random person: "Hey, racism is bad. We should end it. See, my shirt says we should."

The world: "Yeah!! You're so right. I was racist, but now I'm not anymore, whoopie!!!"

You can't tell somebody how to feel, and then poof, they start feeling that way. That's not how it works. This is my problem with anti-racism campaigns. They do absolutely nothing. They may show the other side of the coin (a side most of us are already aware of by now), but until the day comes when groups of people who don't look and act like us completely stop doing things we don't like, which will never happen, then none of this is going away at all. So let's cut the bullshit already.

And that video did throw in the victim approach too, which you have to stop and think at some point "How well has this really worked for me?" I doubt the answer would be all that positive. They are victims in a number of ways, but leaning on that over and over again is a weak and generally ineffective approach IMO.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

once again

"racism" is usually a issue I avoid on SBR... but this vid prompted me to post it and tell my views.

I just watched the video again and was hardly bothered at all. I do believe it was the usage of children

that the people who produced that video had a major part of my anger as well.

To throw children into your agenda is inexcusable

[sourtwist]

We cant let their ignorance and hate bother us. I have a lot to say on this subject but on way to work.

[Kermit]

What recently kind of irritated me was that actress Daniele Watts who tried to pull the race card when the cops were called on her and her white boyfriend for performing sexual acts in public. At first everyone took her side until photos of her and her boyfriend were made public.



Now that pics and apparently video have surfaced, black civil rights leaders have demanded Watts publicly apologize for what she did.

[Kermit]

As far as that video you posted goes, I really feel that the actual shooting of Michael Brown really opened up everyone's eyes, including white people. However, the actions that followed shortly after and were caught on video of black people rioting and looting only made the racism worse.

I still do not understand why some black people feel the need to take out their frustrations by burning down black owned businesses and robbing them, not to mention getting revenge by attacking random white people who have absolutely nothing to do with why they are pissed off in the first place. Most of the time this select few are just opportunists looking to cause mayhem because they have nothing better to do.

There are a lot of good black people in this country, but unfortunately with them being a small minority, it only takes a few to fukk it up for everyone.

The Ferguson incident didn't affect my relations with any of the black people that I associate with.

[itchypickle]

Blacks are like your wife or girlfriend in an argument.....and slavery is like the mistake you made years ago or her ex did before you that you have to live with everyday and is an excuse for everything and you pay for it foreverrrrrrr.

[Auto Donk]

after watching this utterly profound video, I was surprisingly at a loss of words, except for these, two:

"NIGGAS, PUL-LLLLEEEAASSSEEEEE!!!!"

[mcdonae101]

White Power!!!!!!!!

[King Mayan]

Blacks are like your wife or girlfriend in an argument.....and slavery is like the mistake you made years ago or her ex did before you that you have to live with everyday and is an excuse for everything and you pay for it foreverrrrrrr.

Same way I feel about the Jews...

Somehow, me, a Latino, have to be sensitive/pay towards Blacks and Jews...

I can't talk about slavery or hitler in a good way... If I do, I get fukked in the ass..

Shit we give billions to Israel because hitler killed them and Muslims hate them.. Fukk that.

[bigtymer56]

Just gonna post Patrice O'Neal(rip) and call it day. Enjoy!!

[teaserpleaser]

As far as that video you posted goes, I really feel that the actual shooting of Michael Brown really opened up everyone's eyes, including white people. However, the actions that followed shortly after and were caught on video of black people rioting and looting only made the racism worse.

I still do not understand why some black people feel the need to take out their frustrations by burning down black owned businesses and robbing them, not to mention getting revenge by attacking random white people who have absolutely nothing to do with why they are pissed off in the first place. Most of the time this select few are just opportunists looking to cause mayhem because they have nothing better to do.

There are a lot of good black people in this country, but unfortunately with them being a small minority, it only takes a few to fukk it up for everyone.

The Ferguson incident didn't affect my relations with any of the black people that I associate with.

Could be worse they could take their frustrations out on white people in the burbs ...makes no sense to me either but if thier anger and rage had any guidance this is what they would do. I saw a lot of non blacks out there guarding their stores much like here in la with the last riots.

[teaserpleaser]

Blacks are like your wife or girlfriend in an argument.....and slavery is like the mistake you made years ago or her ex did before you that you have to live with everyday and is an excuse for everything and you pay for it foreverrrrrrr.

Could have just kept their word about 40 acres and a mule and not been forked tongued devils ...I think things would be very different now. Deal with it Itchy are you Jewish?

[Russian Rocket]

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[teaserpleaser]

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[itchypickle]

Could have just kept their word about 40 acres and a mule and not been forked tongued devils ...I think things would be very different now. Deal with it Itchy are you Jewish?

I agree on the keeping of the word back then. The actual slaves and immediate family SHOULD have been taken care of. But someone born in today's era has no excuse. Thats where the upbringing part comes into being....the woe is me that is bred into the generation that they can't do anything, won't be respected, have to hate authority etc...setting them up for failure. Its not an institutional issue as much as it is the community that causes it. Only race who has any legitimate excuse in America today is the Native American community. Not to say every single black person is that way, but you know the ones I'm speaking of. I'll say the same thing about the redneck with the confederate flag on the truck saying they can't afford indoor plumbing because of the blacks taking over. And yep, I'm Jewish.

[teaserpleaser]

I agree on the keeping of the word back then. The actual slaves and immediate family SHOULD have been taken care of. But someone born in today's era has no excuse. Thats where the upbringing part comes into being....the woe is me that is bred into the generation that they can't do anything, won't be respected, have to hate authority etc...setting them up for failure. Its not an institutional issue as much as it is the community that causes it. Only race who has any legitimate excuse in America today is the Native American community. Not to say every single black person is that way, but you know the ones I'm speaking of. I'll say the same thing about the redneck with the confederate flag on the truck saying they can't afford indoor plumbing because of the blacks taking over. And yep, I'm Jewish.

itchy I actually kinda like Jews shhh don't tell anybody I did a little "security freelance " work for irv Ruben and Jdl when he was battling tom metzger and the hammer skins nazilowriders any ways along time ago....I gotta run I'll get to why slavery is a major factor in african Americans generations later ...it's good I'll be back in a bit.

[innovation]

wait a minute............flowz you ain't black?

when the last time you checked?

[teaserpleaser]

oh by the way have you ever been to the museum of tolerance? I've been a member for years nice people there ... If you believe it or not slavery instilled violence, rape, self hatred, tortue lynching tar and featherings you name it etc etc. not to mention as a people not knowing where you come from or having your family split up being told and treated like you are cattle a fraction of human being. Slavery could be where the violence comes from because it was there for sure this is 100% documented. For you to say slavery isn't a big deal today is like me saying the holocaust wasn't a big deal well kind of like it would have been a much bigger deal if Germany didn't hand over those reparations payments when Israel needed it badly and in 1999 for a fund that " acknowledges responsibility for slave labor" I'd still take 40 acres and a decent horse instead of a mule over nothing. It's an issue with the way we treat each other the way we look at each other as far as skin tone ...light vs dark skin house negro vs field negro etc etc. failing public schools in the inner cities, 35% unemployment! planting drugs and guns in african American neighborhoods (CIA contra powderburns.org freeway Ricky Ross google them) welfare, food stamps etc these are issues and problems that were allowed to happen now what's going to be done to fix these issues I don't believe in welfare you can cut that shit that would be a good start sink or swim better learn how to garden if you don't want to work. One could argue that the african-American holocaust was worse than the Jewish holocaust nobody knows for sure how many died on the voyage over or on the trek to the coast while in africa. The take away in this is something should be done to square the family of victims just as a symbol at this point to say we screwed up it was wrong here's what's owed I won't hold my breath. If you ever get bored you should read the cnn comments on reparations you kids think you're racist you have nothing on cnn comment racists.

[konck]

Excellent waste of a thread and time
Get this shit off a sports forum

[teaserpleaser]

Be lying to say I'm not sad to see you be so anti african American itchy ... Jews bled with us during the civil rights movement...more than a few some lost their lives.

[jtoler]

I agree on the keeping of the word back then. The actual slaves and immediate family SHOULD have been taken care of. But someone born in today's era has no excuse. Thats where the upbringing part comes into being....the woe is me that is bred into the generation that they can't do anything, won't be respected, have to hate authority etc...setting them up for failure. Its not an institutional issue as much as it is the community that causes it. Only race who has any legitimate excuse in America today is the Native American community. Not to say every single black person is that way, but you know the ones I'm speaking of. I'll say the same thing about the redneck with the confederate flag on the truck saying they can't afford indoor plumbing because of the blacks taking over. And yep, I'm Jewish.

Clueless.

[rkelly110]

I live by the rule, if you give respect you should receive it back. I respect everyone until that is broken.
If you act like something that came out of the woods to do me harm, then no holds barred.

You get what you give.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

wait a minute............flowz you ain't black?

when the last time you checked?

lol Inno, I do like my urban music and callin my online homeys "nekkaz"

Excellent waste of a thread and time
Get this shit off a sports forum

you are always complaining about something on here.

Ridiculously horrible attitude and I bet you are as quiet as a mouse fart in person around someone like me

seriously though konck , u never contribute just bitch about what other people are actively doing on here.

[itchypickle]

Be lying to say I'm not sad to see you be so anti african American itchy ... Jews bled with us during the civil rights movement...more than a few some lost their lives.

I know all about historic slavery...Jews have been slaves in a few places too ya know. And I'm all for the civil rights movement...anti slavery...I just mean the ones who tie everything into that as an excuse as to why they can't get anywhere now or in recent years. Out of Italians who came to Ellis Island, Jews who came over after WW2, Asians, Irish, Arabs, all have thrived under the same system. Slavery is an evil abomination....in any form. But to blame what happened then and even the segregation of the past century on why a 17 year old today can't finish high school or is locked up for a crime they admit they committed....I can't buy it. And it pisses me off to hear parents of these kids now telling them they are different because they are black and that nobody will give them a fair shot due to that...and then when they act on that belief and just give up...everyone falls back to the victim mentality. I've got a little girl...and big believer that kids will play with anyone, regardless of color, until an adult tells them otherwise or that its wrong...look around and listen if you're ever at the park or playground at a place (but dont be if you dont have kids..thats creepy ) and you'll see them playing as kids and then hear 'come on, play over here...let that lil white girl be" its like the reverse of the 1950's/1960s. So you can spot how that upbringing is going to be..based on race and division. Sad.

[smokenjoke]

[Killer_Demo]

Sounds like Fidel's sister is doing a white man! Sounds bitter about white men

[Fidel_CashFlow]

Sounds like Fidel's sister is doing a white man! Sounds bitter about white men

dude ... im white

Ive seen the hilarious pics of you that greenhippo found, dont let this thread make you mad over being a wigger

I happen to like rap music,blunts, and big booties also.

I just am able to do all that while keeping my "whiteness" in tact.

[Russian Rocket]

Ive seen the hilarious pics of you that greenhippo found, dont let this thread make you mad over being a wigger

[Kermit]

Someone on Facebook just shared an alternate edited version of this video that was pretty rough.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

Excellent waste of a thread and time
Get this shit off a sports forum

[Fidel_CashFlow]

Someone on Facebook just shared an alternate edited version of this video that was pretty rough.

any chance you could post it ?

kinda regret making this thread but that video I posted I think is made to stir up trouble to begin with