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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    That might be true, but they would say the same thing if they invested $100 into the market and received $110 back.
    that is my point. sports bettors have different mentalities than people that invest in stocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    do a survey on sbr. since, most deposit $100 or even less on sbr, ask them if they'd be happy with $110 by the end of the year. 100% will say hells no!!!
    i have to believe they would be happy if the other choice is 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    that is my point. sports bettors have different mentalities than people that invest in stocks.
    Not all, just the ones that are green behind their ears and destined to lose, because if they aren't happy with a 10% return on their investment, they are going to wager over their head more times than not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    i have to believe they would be happy if the other choice is 0
    you know most gamblers would be happier with 0 than $110, no joke.

    most gamblers play to lose, not to get 10% roi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    Not all, just the ones that are green behind their ears and destined to lose, because if they aren't happy with a 10% return on their investment, they are going to wager over their head more times than not.
    that's 99% of the people on sbr pal. if someone makes a thread and says, "i invested $100 and got back $110 this year." he'd get laughed at. but if someone creates a thread and says, "i deposited $100 and ran that shit up to $50,000." that thread would get 1000 views and a great job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    you know most gamblers would be happier with 0 than $110, no joke.

    most gamblers play to lose, not to get 10% roi.
    I understand where u are coming from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    that's 99% of the people on sbr pal. if someone makes a thread and says, "i invested $100 and got back $110 this year." he'd get laughed at. but if someone creates a thread and says, "i deposited $100 and ran that shit up to $50,000." that thread would get 1000 views and a great job.
    I agree. I think that same person would also get laughed at on one of the strock forums, where knowledge jousting and ego promoting are done on a much larger scale. I'd also be guilty of contributing views to that gambling rags to riches thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    So all these stock analyst are phoneys also? To me it is the same job just a different animal. I also showed u why a guy needed to get paid. U can't hire five people for free. I am not defending touts because like u said a lot of them are scum but there are some out there that triy to do well for their clients.
    Honestly most stock analysts don't know shit.

    For example, you work for an investment bank and your actual job is to analyze a company and say you're assigned to analyze company ABC.

    Your bank will have a weighting system like overweight/equal weight/underweight or buy/hold/sell, which is the same thing (overweight means buy, equal weight means hold, underweight means sell).

    Say your bank's current stance on ABC is that they are equal weight. Well unless you as an analyst see something truly bad or amazingly good, the analyst will just say "equal weight" again and pick up a paycheck. If your bank's stance is that ABC is overweight, unless you see something really bad you will just say they are "overweight" again and pick up a paycheck.

    That is why analysts have missed so many things in the past like Citigroup during the financial crisis.

    The analysis they do is the same analysis anyone else can do.

    Remember now, I am talking about a "stock analyst" that works at an investment bank, not a "stock broker" who looks at stocks (hopefully they analyze them) and tries to sell shares to clients.

    Here is a list of "stock analysts": http://www.businessinsider.com/the-b...america-2013-8

    There is a difference between a "stock analyst" and "stock broker".

    Anyone here can do what an analyst does just by looking up earnings reports, balance sheets, new stories, etc. on your own time just like anyone can research a game like touts may or may not do.

    Now of course, I absolutely do not mean that some banged up fukk like Sweep can go get a job as a stock analyst at a bulge bracket investment bank, but anyone can do what they do.

    Stock analysts are wrong on companies about as much as they are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubblebuttluv View Post
    Honestly most stock analysts don't know shit.

    For example, you work for an investment bank and your actual job is to analyze a company and say you're assigned to analyze company ABC.

    Your bank will have a weighting system like overweight/equal weight/underweight or buy/hold/sell, which is the same thing (overweight means buy, equal weight means hold, underweight means sell).

    Say your bank's current stance on ABC is that they are equal weight. Well unless you as an analyst see something truly bad or amazingly good, the analyst will just say "equal weight" again and pick up a paycheck. If your bank's stance is that ABC is overweight, unless you see something really bad you will just say they are "overweight" again and pick up a paycheck.

    That is why analysts have missed so many things in the past like Citigroup during the financial crisis.

    The analysis they do is the same analysis anyone else can do.

    Remember now, I am talking about a "stock analyst" that works at an investment bank, not a "stock broker" who looks at stocks (hopefully they analyze them) and tries to sell shares to clients.

    Here is a list of "stock analysts": http://www.businessinsider.com/the-b...america-2013-8

    There is a difference between a "stock analyst" and "stock broker".

    Anyone here can do what an analyst does just by looking up earnings reports, balance sheets, new stories, etc. on your own time just like anyone can research a game like touts may or may not do.

    Now of course, I absolutely do not mean that some banged up fukk like Sweep can go get a job as a stock analyst at a bulge bracket investment bank, but anyone can do what they do.

    Stock analysts are wrong on companies about as much as they are right.
    i meant to say "Stock Broker" They basically do the same thing as touts. Give out shitty advce for money. Now analyst remind me of the guys that sit around lets say Fox (jimmy, Stray,Howie, and Bradshaw) These type try to lead ya somewhere and it is never to make money. Didn't that shill Kramer get caught pumping AIG and he cried he was sorry on NTV.

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    Anyone whether a tout or regular sbr poster that does not track plays here with records , bet amounts and wprofit loss statements basically has zero credibility

    Why is it so hard to do this??????????

    Why??? It would expose 95% of the guys here as bad cappers

    GAME OVER


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor4140 View Post
    i meant to say "Stock Broker" They basically do the same thing as touts. Give out shitty advce for money. Now analyst remind me of the guys that sit around lets say Fox (jimmy, Stray,Howie, and Bradshaw) These type try to lead ya somewhere and it is never to make money. Didn't that shill Kramer get caught pumping AIG and he cried he was sorry on NTV.
    Oh, Jim Cramer.

    Cramer told a viewer that Bear Stearns is not in trouble.

    One week later--- Stearns collapsed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Anyone whether a tout or regular sbr poster that does not track plays here with records , bet amounts and wprofit loss statements basically has zero credibility

    Why is it so hard to do this??????????

    Why??? It would expose 95% of the guys here as bad cappers

    GAME OVER

    Very few guys like myself, Russian Rocket, etc. actually track plays.

    Guys like Benny make a new thread for every play because he thinks keeping track of lifetime units is stupid.

    That's why El Nino puts Benny in his place.

    Guys like lakerboy make new threads for every single fukking play and still hardly ever win.

    Very few are brave enough to keep a running record.

    Good luck tonight, JJ.

    I hope you got in on that Mark Selby snooker match that I posted in the only thread that I put my picks.

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...rt-thread.html

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    What motivates people to track their plays publicly, especially given that anyone can create a more useful excel sheet and the fact that SBR's sheets do not convert smoothly into excel?

    It seems: Some want e-glory, some want to be semi-respected, some want to go tout, some are OCD, and a few want to truly help others I suppose.

    JJ, which one are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    What motivates people to track their plays publicly, especially given that anyone can create a more useful excel sheet and the fact that SBR's sheets do not convert smoothly into excel?

    It seems: Some want e-glory, some want to be semi-respected, some want to go tout, some are OCD, and a few want to truly help others I suppose.

    JJ, which one are you?
    I get a boner every time I post a screenshot of my bets table...just can't fukking help it

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    Russian, I have diagnosed you as doing it for: e-glory, wanting to help, and a mild case of OCD.

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    Fire, you are closer to me, we do not have any of the motivation to publicly track ourselves for a long period of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    Fire, you are closer to me, we do not have any of the motivation to publicly track ourselves for a long period of time.
    thanks .... I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    Russian, I have diagnosed you as doing it for: e-glory, wanting to help, and a mild case of OCD.
    neither one of those actually...I do it to document my plays and to see how I do for the season. If someone wants to jump in on my bets - more power to them.

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    A lot of respectable posters fall into our category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    neither one of those actually...I do it to document my plays and to see how I do for the season. If someone wants to jump in on my bets - more power to them.
    Russian, people cannot self-diagnose. I had my psychologist brother review select posters...trust me, you had one of the more favorable diagnoses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    Russian, people cannot self-diagnose. I had my psychologist brother review select posters...trust me, you had one of the more favorable diagnoses.
    I don't even post the real amount of my bets, that on many occasions are a lot higher than what you see on the screenshot...what e-cred are we talking about it here? I use SBR spreadsheet because I like the clean look of it...the reason why I still post my plays, because I like to finish what I've started.

    simple as this

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    My brother diagnosed me too...it also took me a while to accept...personally, I am going in for a second opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    I don't even post the real amount of my bets, that on many occasions are a lot higher than what you see on the screenshot...what e-cred are we talking about it here? I use SBR spreadsheet because I like the clean look of it...the reason why I still post my plays, because I like to finish what I've started.

    simple as this
    Sounds like a nice way of admitting you have OCD. So far, my brother is spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    My brother diagnosed me too...it also took me a while to accept...personally, I am going in for a second opinion.
    don't waste your money on physiologists...spend it on Cigars, Bourbon and Guns instead....actually forget the guns, but the 1st two are good to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    Sounds like a nice way of admitting you have OCD. So far, my brother is spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    What motivates people to track their plays publicly, especially given that anyone can create a more useful excel sheet and the fact that SBR's sheets do not convert smoothly into excel?

    It seems: Some want e-glory, some want to be semi-respected, some want to go tout, some are OCD, and a few want to truly help others I suppose.

    JJ, which one are you?
    I post my plays as a way of tracking them.

    If I didn't post them here then they would just be typed into a Word document on my laptop.

    I also figure I can maybe help people out with some winners, especially on sports like snooker and cricket that most people may never think to look at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubblebuttluv View Post
    I post my plays as a way of tracking them.

    If I didn't post them here then they would just be typed into a Word document on my laptop.

    I also figure I can maybe help people out with some winners, especially on sports like snooker and cricket that most people may never think to look at.
    Bubbles...I told him I though you were normal...he thinks you might go tout. But the good news is you aren't OCD.

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    Anyone that does not track in one way or another has zero credibility
    What is so hard to understand here??

    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    What motivates people to track their plays publicly, especially given that anyone can create a more useful excel sheet and the fact that SBR's sheets do not convert smoothly into excel?

    It seems: Some want e-glory, some want to be semi-respected, some want to go tout, some are OCD, and a few want to truly help others I suppose.

    JJ, which one are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russian Rocket View Post
    don't waste your money on physiologists...spend it on Cigars, Bourbon and Guns instead....actually forget the guns, but the 1st two are good to go
    I have more of each than I know what to do with..

    Russian, I would have killed for your diagnoses. My brother said that if you make another wager on an NFL game, I'd be clinically insane. It was hard to digest, but I tend to agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Anyone that does not track in one way or another has zero credibility
    What is so hard to understand here??
    Coach I think it's time you do a video that addresses the use of spreadsheet and/or bet tracking software

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Anyone that does not track in one way or another has zero credibility
    What is so hard to understand here??

    JJ, you are a particularly troubling case. You aren't OCD, because you were able to delete several thousand losing selections, you obviously don't care what others think as your plays work against your credibility, there's no way you can go tout, and you certainly aren't in a position to help anyone.

    My brother passed your case to a special committee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post

    My brother passed your case to a special committee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamDiamond View Post
    Imagine that.

    A tout losing.

    Shocking, I tell you. Shocking.

    Next you'll tell me he doesn't really bet his games.

    Here's my question.

    Who would pay a stoner for picks?

    Pinny has 2 personalities--- one where he is fuking baked and probably throwing darts, and the other of a bi-polar lunatic where he wishes death and disease on someone's kids.

    And this is the guy you're paying for picks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    you know most gamblers would be happier with 0 than $110, no joke.

    most gamblers play to lose, not to get 10% roi.

    Why is that so true?

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