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    Obama intentionally misleading American people: Lon Snowden

    Obama intentionally misleading American people:
    Lon Snowden




    Lon Snowden, father of American whistlblower Edward Snowden




    The father of American whistleblower Edward Snowden says that US President Barack Obama is intentionally misleading the American people.


    “The president made the statement that Edward -- that the president had enacted whistleblower laws that protected contractors like my son Edward that is absolutely untrue. Either the president is being misled by his advisers or he is intentionally misleading the American people," Lon Snowden told ABC on Sunday.

    During a press conference on Friday, Obama said, "I signed an executive order all before Mr. Snowden leaked this information that provided whistleblower protection to the intelligent committee or the first time, so there were other avenues available for somebody whose conscience was stirred and felt they needed to question government actions.”

    Edward’s father also noted that his son, who is charged with espionage for leaking the US government’s spying programs, would not receive a fair trial in the United States.
    “At this point, what I would like is for this to be vetted in open court for the American people to have all the facts. What I've seen is much political theater,” he said.
    Meanwhile, Lon Snowden’s attorney, Bruce Fein, said on Sunday that the father of Edward obtained a Russian v*i*s*a* and plans to visit his son in Moscow.

    “We now have a date for visiting Moscow. We have visas, we have a date which we won’t disclose right now because of the frenzy,” Fein said. “It’s very soon.”

    The National Security Agency leaker received temporary asylum in Russia on August 1.

    The whistleblower first fled from the US to Hong Kong and then went to Russia. He was holed up in the transit zone of a Moscow airport for more than a month before Russia granted him a one-year asylum.

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    Ex-NSA chief: US spying will get worse

    Former director of the US National Security Agency, Gen. Michael Hayden,



    The former director of the US National Security Agency, Gen. Michael Hayden, has indicated the spy agency would want to use its databases in more aggressive ways.



    Hayden told CBS’ Face The Nation on Sunday that the NSA would want to use an advanced algorithm to sieve through the vast amount of data it had collected on the American people.

    Such an algorithm would enable NSA operatives, for example, to read the email of every American citizen.

    Earlier in June, in the wake of the revelations about the NSA’s spying programs, Hayden, who presided over the creation of a secret surveillance program, also said that the US spying program expanded under the presidency of Barack Obama.

    Meanwhile, the Guardian reported on Friday that a top-secret document provided by former NSA contractor turned whistleblower Edward Snowden shows that a legal authority enables NSA operatives to search for Americans’ email and phone calls without a warrant.

    The newly disclosed document reveals for the first time that the NSA is legally authorized to sieve through its databases in search for specific American individuals’ communications using their names or other “identifiers”.

    The Guardian explained that the term “identifier” may refer to an individual’s name, telephone number, email address, or IP address and username.

    This comes as on Friday, Obama called on Congress to reform Section 215 of the Patriot Act, which allows the NSA to collect phone records of American citizens.

    Meanwhile, on NBC’s Tonight Show on Tuesday, Obama denied that the White House has “a domestic spying program” and described NSA’s spying programs as “useful” mechanisms that “can track a phone number or an e-mail address that is connected to a terrorist attack.”

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    Obama ‘lied’ about NSA programs

    President Barack Obama and some US senators have “lied” and have been “lied to” about the massive surveillance programs by the National Security Agency (NSA), says an American journalist.


    “He (Obama) has lied, he has denied that NSA engages in domestic spying and somehow a number of the members of the US Senate,” Rob Kall, executive editor of OpEdNews.com, told Press on Sunday.

    “It’s clear that Obama has been forced to respond to… the spying program and NSA program and the program that he has expanded using the Patriot Act and Homeland Security,” he added.

    On Friday, Obama said he would ask Congress to narrow and improve oversight of Section 215 of the Patriot Act, which permits the government to collect phone records, after Edward Snowden, a former NSA contractor, leaked secrete information about the spying programs.

    Kall said Obama will not roll back the surveillance programs in the US. “Obama will improve surveillance measures and that means expand them. I just do not believe that he will really push any executive powers.”

    During a congressional hearing in March, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said that the NSA did not collect data on millions of Americans; a response he later said was “clearly erroneous.”

    “Clapper should be fired, Obama should fire him,” Kall said.

    Snowden revealed to news media that the NSA collects phone records and email communications of Americans and foreign nationals. He is wanted in the US for charges of espionage and theft of government property.

    He arrived in Russia from Hong Kong on June 23 and remained in the transit zone of Moscow’s Sheremetyevo Airport for more than one month before being granted temporary asylum on August 1.

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    It's normal for a father to protect his son. That said, his son is still a coward, a traitor and should be shot
    by firing squad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    It's normal for a father to protect his son. That said, his son is still a coward, a traitor and should be shot
    by firing squad.
    What about hanging Obama for treason?

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    Obama is just playing symantics. I think Obama is right that they aren't listening to your calls, but they are recording every single call. If you do anything wrong in the future, they will go through all of your communications. Seems like science fiction movie, but looks like its real.

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    The only difference between Obama and Bush is that Obama is intentionally misleading american people whereas Bush was unintentionally misleading people in 2 wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo View Post
    What about hanging Obama for treason?
    His number 1 job as with all agencies, armed forces, police, dick wads on the hill and the American people is
    protection against foreign and domestic threats.

    Snowden is a domestic threat and thanks to him is now a foreign threat putting thousands of overseas personnel in danger.

    If you guys think these type of people are hero's, maybe you should re evaluate your existence as a US citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    His number 1 job as with all agencies, armed forces, police, dick wads on the hill and the American people is
    protection against foreign and domestic threats.

    Snowden is a domestic threat and thanks to him is now a foreign threat putting thousands of overseas personnel in danger.

    If you guys think these type of people are hero's, maybe you should re evaluate your existence as a US citizen.
    RK.. don't going using common sense.

    That will just fuk up some of these loonies.

    Snowden is no hero. Anyone who thinks he is needs all kinds of medication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    His number 1 job as with all agencies, armed forces, police, dick wads on the hill and the American people is
    protection against foreign and domestic threats.


    Snowden is a domestic threat and thanks to him is now a foreign threat putting thousands of overseas personnel in danger.

    If you guys think these type of people are hero's, maybe you should re evaluate your existence as a US citizen.
    He did a great job for the people of Boston.

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    No way,Presidents actually lie?

    And all Presidents have the American peoples best interest at heart,lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Dogs View Post
    No way,Presidents actually lie?

    And all Presidents have the American peoples best interest at heart,lol
    What a stupid post. The government spying on American citizens equals treason.

    This isn't supposed to be Nazi Germany with the secret police telling neighbors to rat on each other.

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    saloon this shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    His number 1 job as with all agencies, armed forces, police, dick wads on the hill and the American people is
    protection against foreign and domestic threats.

    Snowden is a domestic threat and thanks to him is now a foreign threat putting thousands of overseas personnel in danger.

    If you guys think these type of people are hero's, maybe you should re evaluate your existence as a US citizen.
    You live in a world where everything is upside down.

    Obama swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, that was his primary obligation.

    Snowden uncovered radical violation of the Constitution by those sworn to protect it, he had an obligation to come forward.

    Any loyalty one should have as a citizen is to the principles this nation was founded on.

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    Yes he did, he was also a constitutional lawyer. He, almost better than anyone, would know about the constitution.
    Don't pin all this on 'bama, since 911 we've been extremely on edge about our security.

    There are other ways of coming forward than running to a foreign country and publically telling the world how we
    do shit.

    Ever hear of the WW2 saying, loose lips sink ships? Same principle here.

    Until they break down your door because of what you posted here, I wouldn't worry about it, unless you post about
    doing harm to American citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post


    “The president made the statement that Edward -- that the president had enacted whistleblower laws that protected contractors like my son Edward that is absolutely untrue. Either the president is being misled by his advisers or he is intentionally misleading the American people," Lon Snowden told ABC on Sunday.
    So is Obama a dumb sock puppet or is he evil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    His number 1 job as with all agencies, armed forces, police, dick wads on the hill and the American people is
    protection against foreign and domestic threats.

    Snowden is a domestic threat and thanks to him is now a foreign threat putting thousands of overseas personnel in danger.

    If you guys think these type of people are hero's, maybe you should re evaluate your existence as a US citizen.
    Threat of what?


    US citizens rising up against this corporate government evil empire for their own freedoms?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    There are other ways of coming forward than running to a foreign country and publically telling the world how we
    do shit.
    Lets hear em

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    Originally Posted by rickbo528 When I was in the Army and getting a top secret security clearance I had to sign so many documents stating the penalties of disclosing classified information. Everyone who goes through this process knows up front the penalties for UNLAWFUL DISCLOSURE of classified information. Not sure what the penalties are now but 33 years ago it was 10 years in prison for EACH OFFENSE. The statute specifically states this to include simple mishandling of classified information. The little bastard knew exactly what laws he was breaking. He deserves the hardest punishment!!!!!!! Bradley Manning Not Guilty of "Aiding the Enemy"
    same goes for this fukk

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    It's normal for a father to protect his son. That said, his son is still a coward, a traitor and should be shot
    by firing squad.
    stick to singing pal. politics isn't your thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post

    Threat of what?


    US citizens rising up against this corporate government evil empire for their own freedoms?
    Quote Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER View Post

    Lets hear em
    All you have to do is look at how you live your life to see how our govt is suppose to run our country.

    I'm sure you have your ways of protecting yourself against our govt who you hate so much.

    Maybe you are at the library posting so the govt can't trace you.
    Maybe you don't work so the govt can't get your taxes or know where you live.
    Maybe you don't have a phone so the govt can't read your texts.
    We already know you think our govt crashed those planes in the towers.
    We already know you don't believe we went to the moon.
    We already know you think we are run by the corps. (so do I except the Repubs are behind it)

    Point is, you are protecting yourself like our govt is. How would you like it if a family member reported
    you to the IRS. You have to pay a huge fine and interest or even went to jail. Not fun is it?

    Snowden and Manning is your family member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    Yes he did, he was also a constitutional lawyer. He, almost better than anyone, would know about the constitution.
    Don't pin all this on 'bama, since 911 we've been extremely on edge about our security.
    He knows how to ignore it quite well, never seen such a blatant disregard for the Constitution.

    I'm not just pining it on him, I'm pinning it on the governments preceding him as well. However, things have gotten exponentially worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    There are other ways of coming forward than running to a foreign country and publically telling the world how we
    do shit.
    Obama campaigned on running a transparent government, he should thank Snowden for honoring his platform.

    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    Ever hear of the WW2 saying, loose lips sink ships? Same principle here.
    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    Until they break down your door because of what you posted here, I wouldn't worry about it, unless you post about
    doing harm to American citizens.
    First they came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the socialists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for the Catholics,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Catholic.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.
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    I've got a funny idea, how about the American government doesn't break the law? It might just work, it certainly hasn't been tried.

    There should be no reason for Snowden to come forward.

    And while they're at it, how about doing something about the Israelis spying on us?

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    Our govt today reminds me of the movie The Postman, with Kevin Costner. Where they try to say the pledge of
    allegiance and get the words all messed up. Our govt forgot the words and are making it up as they go along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly110 View Post
    All you have to do is look at how you live your life to see how our govt is suppose to run our country.

    I'm sure you have your ways of protecting yourself against our govt who you hate so much.

    Maybe you are at the library posting so the govt can't trace you.
    Maybe you don't work so the govt can't get your taxes or know where you live.
    Maybe you don't have a phone so the govt can't read your texts.
    We already know you think our govt crashed those planes in the towers.
    We already know you don't believe we went to the moon.

    We already know you think we are run by the corps. (so do I except the Repubs are behind it)

    Point is, you are protecting yourself like our govt is. How would you like it if a family member reported
    you to the IRS. You have to pay a huge fine and interest or even went to jail. Not fun is it?

    Snowden and Manning is your family member.
    Wrong....

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    The patriot act was designed to listen to terrorists trying to harm us. Obama is using the law to spy on innocent american citizens which is deplorable.

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    Patriot Act will go down as one of the worse Acts of all time in History. Should be called "Spy Gate"

    Had Zero to do with terrorism. 100% to do with following all US citizens day & night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Patriot Act will go down as one of the worse Acts of all time in History. Should be called "Spy Gate"

    Had Zero to do with terrorism. 100% to do with following all US citizens day & night.
    So what does that make you think about the act of terrorism that got us the US patriot act?

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    Pauly... what I think? I think the original acts of terrorism were fake on our soil. The rest are copy cat idiots who have no brains. That's what went down. Too much of a coincidence to think otherwise. Our govt wanted us to live in fear. That's how George Bush Jr edged his second term. Just before the election... more fear on the rise. Our govt is nothing more than Hollywood full spectrum. I could careless what the media says anymore. We are close to full blown dictatorship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Pauly... what I think? I think the original acts of terrorism were fake on our soil. The rest are copy cat idiots who have no brains.
    So, was the Boston Marathon bombings done by idiots who have no brains, or were they "fake on our soil"?

    A lot of people's lives in Boston were dramatically changed by that bombing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wojo View Post
    So, was the Boston Marathon bombings done by idiots who have no brains, or were they "fake on our soil"?

    A lot of people's lives in Boston were dramatically changed by that bombing.
    The Boston bombing after effect was just a TV show to terrorize the American public by inducing Martial law.........


    The whole fukking Military/FBI/CIA/Boston PD etc...busting down every door in water town for 1 unarmed 19 year old kid....


    So yes,the enforcement of martial law upon watertown, on national TV, dramatically changed lives in all of watertown and all who watched this police brutality go down..

    Their lives are forever changed with new found fear not of criminals but of their own government induced dictatorship of brutality ........

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    It doesn't matter now.

    Snowden failed. Instead of being outraged that '1984' is suddenly on our doorstep, the American people parrot the govt line that he is the bad guy, and the news story, instead of this outrageous breach of privacy.

    And now the people's will against it has been tested and shown to be weak, they will be further emboldened.

    Pity our grandchildren who will never know true freedom. And won't even know what to fight for to take back any ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    It doesn't matter now.

    Snowden failed. Instead of being outraged that '1984' is suddenly on our doorstep, the American people parrot the govt line that he is the bad guy, and the news story, instead of this outrageous breach of privacy.

    And now the people's will against it has been tested and shown to be weak, they will be further emboldened.

    Pity our grandchildren who will never know true freedom. And won't even know what to fight for to take back any ground.
    Exactly Opt...

    I just don't understand how people can be trained as dogs without asking the constant question of why that is naturally burning and yearning from their visceral.......

    People have become nothing but robotic.........


    Humans are the easiest animal on earth to train and program......

    This is a fact,because I have witnessed this absolute sadness with my own eyes......


    Those who stand up for their freedom will be frowned upon,labeled as terrorist and put behind bars until they surrender their TRUE freedoms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    It doesn't matter now.

    Snowden failed. Instead of being outraged that '1984' is suddenly on our doorstep, the American people parrot the govt line that he is the bad guy, and the news story, instead of this outrageous breach of privacy.

    And now the people's will against it has been tested and shown to be weak, they will be further emboldened.

    Pity our grandchildren who will never know true freedom. And won't even know what to fight for to take back any ground.
    The Stanford and Milgram experiments tell you all you need to know about the human psyche.

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    US conducts 'terror drills' across nation



    The US federal government is now conducting nationwide “terrorist response drills” to further condition the public into believing that security theatre such as the NSA’s warrantless surveillance “keeps us safe.”


    In Indiana, a joint operation of over 5,000 military and civilian first responders are running a drill in response to a simulated “nuclear terrorist attack” in Columbus, Ohio.

    The drill, named Exercise Vibrant Response, is supervised by the US Northern Command and led by US Army North.

    The Indiana drill concludes on August 17.

    In North Dakota, local, state and federal entities are performing a simulation in which terrorists steal radiation devices during the World Energy Forum.

    This drill takes place at several locations such as the Moorhead High School, the FargoDome, and local hospitals.

    The numerous agencies involved include the FBI, the North Dakota Highway Patrol, and the North Joint Operations Center.

    Last week, we reported on the Austin, Texas terror drill conducted in response to a vague DHS terror alert.

    Media outlets were forced to cover the reported terrorist threat after Infowars broke the news on the special threat advisory.

    “According to anonymous reporting, a group of trained terrorists are planning to conduct attacks in Austin, Texas and Pasadena, California at the conclusion of the Ramadan period,” the advisory read.

    The document, given to Austin area law enforcement, further stated that the unspecified terrorists could bomb Sixth Street, a popular nightlife venue in Austin.

    These “terror response” drills come in the wake of the Obama Administration’s recent closing of US embassies due to a “terror threat,” which a high-ranking Yemeni security official said had “no basis in fact,” as reported by Paul Joseph Watson.

    The official said that the US embassy terror threat was an attempt to sway the public’s opinion on the expansion of unpopular American drone strikes.

    Since the late 1990s, Alex Jones has documented massive urban warfare exercises involving foreign troops on American soil.

    These operations even included how to control and detain the American people.

    Make no mistake, the federal response drills are designed to exaggerate terrorist threats in America in order to justify the future expansion of federal powers at the expense of our rights. Prison Planet

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