[mynameismud]

it sure as fukked burned the prosecution in the casey anthony case for going too big. i wonder if zimmermans team offered to plead guilty to voluntary or involuntary manslaughter? or even negligent homicide?

[MoneyLineDawg]

Zimmerman is the aggressor and 99% of the reason why someone originally minding their own business is now dead but he may get off.....Not right, but justice is not always served

[stevenash]

it sure as fukked burned the prosecution in the casey anthony case for going too big. i wonder if zimmermans team offered to plead guilty to voluntary or involuntary manslaughter? or even negligent homicide?

This case has so much in common with the Casy Anthony case, it's scary.

[mynameismud]

This case has so much in common with the Casy Anthony case, it's scary.

hey nashy...of course they are total opposite types of cases, doesnt change the fact that the state is going too big. they are both going for all or nothing.

[stevenash]

^
two different cases, yes, but similar in the overcharging, etc. etc. etc.
Instead of the burden being put on the defense, the burden is put on the prosecution to prove Zimmy is guilty of 2nd degree.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I think the state is going to go all out here to make sure they don't lose like the Casey Anthony case.

hey nashy...of course they are total opposite types of cases, doesnt change the fact that the state is going too big. they are both going for all or nothing.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Quit twisting the facts... His father originally didn't think it was his son. Later on he admitted that it was probably him. 2 expert forensic audio experts both said it was Trayvon. Why would Zimmerman be screaming help, over and over again then shoot him? That makes no sense.

Martin's own father claimed that wasn't his son screaming for help.

[itchypickle]

Quit twisting the facts... His father originally didn't think it was his son. Later on he admitted that it was probably him. 2 expert forensic audio experts both said it was Trayvon. Why would Zimmerman be screaming help, over and over again then shoot him? That makes no sense.

They met...argued...Martin cold cocks Zimmerman and mounts him...Zimmerman realizes he's done for and is screaming for help since he's getting pummeled....reaches down to his waist and unholsters the weapon and raises it to Martin's chest and squeezes off the round. All of this in accordance to witness statements and physical evidence and autopsy.

** correction not ALL, the cold cocking is assumed but leads to logic sense Zimmerman got his ass beat and said so from the get go.

[Winnipeg Jets]

they have to prosecute. you know who will riot again.

blame it on whitey. wait zimmerman ain't white.

[itchypickle]

Guys if you listened to the testimony from the 911 dispatcher who is famous for the 'we don't need you to do that' comment....was a big help for Zimmerman today. He states that they are held liable for orders so they have top give generalizations....they suggest yes and no but would never give a command. So down goes the months of media hype saying "cops ordered Zimmerman to stand down and he kept on". Also if you listn to the same sequence today, the call is played in court and discredits the Prosecutions opening today saying George told cops to meet him elsewhere because "he knew what he was about to do, he was going after this punk'.

[Kermit]

Quit twisting the facts... His father originally didn't think it was his son. Later on he admitted that it was probably him. 2 expert forensic audio experts both said it was Trayvon. Why would Zimmerman be screaming help, over and over again then shoot him? That makes no sense.

I am not twisting anything. First Martin's dad said that it wasn't his son, then at a later date(most likely because it helped his son's credibility) said that it was. You would think a father would know what his son sounds like more than anyone. And the forensic audio experts didn't really confirm who it was.

Zimmerman would be screaming for help if he was on his back getting beat down which he apparently was.

[Kermit]

West then introduced the prior statements of Witness No. 6, identified as John Good. Good had told the police immediately after the shooting, he saw a “black man in a black hoodie on top of either a white guy … or an Hispanic guy in a red sweater on the ground yelling out help.”

I'll take the word of someone who was actually there.

[TheRifleman]

[TheDane]

Zimmerman took out a future "gangster"

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/justic...merman-defense

[MoneyLineDawg]

If you take the race BS and "what if's" out of it.....you should be able to see clearly that Zimmerman is in the wrong in this case......Trayvon may not be 100% innocent here but nothing happens if Zimmerman isn't a crazy moron trying to be a hero.....Literally nothing happens that night

The race of these guys should be irrelevent but you got morons on both sides of the fence.....I am not hispanic nor am I black so I am not partial to either side

It's funny, I haven't seen one of the "usual suspects" on SBR against Zimmerman in this case. So predictable....

[Fidel_CashFlow]

If you take the race BS and "what if's" out of it.....you should be able to see clearly that Zimmerman is in the wrong in this case......Trayvon may not be 100% innocent here but nothing happens if Zimmerman isn't a crazy moron trying to be a hero.....Literally nothing happens that night

The race of these guys should be irrelevent but you got morons on both sides of the fence.....I am not hispanic nor am I black so I am not partial to either side

It's funny, I haven't seen one of the "usual suspects" on SBR against Zimmerman in this case. So predictable....

Its basically as simple as that. He nailed it in less then a paragraph

[Kermit]

I really don't think that Zimmerman had any intentions of killing anyone that night. I mean if he did, then why bother calling the cops in the first place? I really don't see either person originally as being in the wrong that night. One guy is looking out for his neighborhood and the kid is on his way back to his father's girlfriend's home. Who attacked who? No one can really say.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

Zimmerman took out a future "gangster"

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/justic...merman-defense

wow he had weed in his system at one point.

Scary scary person right there. Someone on marijuana will rip your head off

your post showed a lot of "faggotry" in you

[Kermit]

I'll tell you who I hate in all of this is the media that repeatedly lied(for both sides)

[pulledclear]

Zimmerman is the aggressor and 99% of the reason why someone originally minding their own business is now dead but he may get off.....Not right, but justice is not always served

Maybe if these stupid fckng _ _ _ _ _ _ s would stop robbing, car jacking , assaulting, burglarizing, Drug Dealing, KILLING and all the other sub human activities they engage in EVERY day, the ONE time somebody tries to defend their neighborhood from these criminals we wouldnt be in this situation. F A C T! I would call them animals but I would be insulting animals.

[pulledclear]

No.....thats what I thought. Crickets........ Its crazy to think they are going stop being criminals!

[Fidel_CashFlow]

Pulled. None of what you just said....
Even if statistics back you up 100% as far as black crime still
makes what Zimmerman did that night any less sinister.
We are talking about an individual case.
Two lives that came together that night.
One person was doing nothing wrong at all .
Purchased some items and was en route
home takin on the phone to his girlfriend.
(dont know many criminals that talk on the phone while out causing trouble)
when all of a sudden someone approaches you with a predetermined disposition that you are guilty of something.
How do we know that is how Zimmerman approached him ?
Well because Zimm said to the dispatcher that
" these guys get away with shit all the time and im tired of it blah blah blah "
so im sure Zimmerman was not nice and
sweet wehn approaching the 18 year old teenager with skittles on the phone with his girlfriend ?


What is Trayvon spose to do ??? be a lil bitch and beg for the fella to leave him alone ?

No he stood his ground ... as any man should do that is not guilty of anything but being treated as a criminal


Especially dealing with someone 10 years older then you that is coming at you instigating shit up into your world.

A world that did not involve that pussy Zimmerman whatsoever until Zimmerman himself made it a impossible scenario

to avoid. On top of all of this. How are you guys defending this coward when he got worked by a kid then has to

shoot the kid because he is in fear of his life????? Add into all this the fact that Trayvon was not guilty of any crime.

Disturbing

[MoneyLineDawg]

I really don't think that Zimmerman had any intentions of killing anyone that night. I mean if he did, then why bother calling the cops in the first place? I really don't see either person originally as being in the wrong that night. One guy is looking out for his neighborhood and the kid is on his way back to his father's girlfriend's home. Who attacked who? No one can really say.

Zimmerman may not have wanted to kill someone that night, but he definitely wanted to "teach someone (TM) a lesson".

It's not that important as to who "attacked who" or who threw the first punch......If someone is walking home in the dark and is approached by someone in an aggressive manner, it's pretty reasonable to assume that a physical altercation may follow.

We will never know who started the physical altercation but we do know who is to blame for that to happen in the first place.......One guy minding his own business, walking home from the store.....The other, playing wannabe-cop

[MoneyLineDawg]

Maybe if these stupid fckng _ _ _ _ _ _ s would stop robbing, car jacking , assaulting, burglarizing, Drug Dealing, KILLING and all the other sub human activities they engage in EVERY day, the ONE time somebody tries to defend their neighborhood from these criminals we wouldnt be in this situation. F A C T! I would call them animals but I would be insulting animals.

Don't care about what-ifs and generalizations.....I am just going by this case alone, and Zimmerman is in the wrong......maybe the next 10 times, it is the "------s" fault, but it sure as hell ain't this time.....And that's all that is relevant at the moment

[Fidel_CashFlow]

PulledClear . You are a lot "kewler" when you are posting funny porno titles instead of this shit

[Fidel_CashFlow]

Don't care about what-ifs and generalizations.....I am just going by this case alone, and Zimmerman is in the wrong......maybe the next 10 times, it is the "------s" fault, but it sure as hell ain't this one.....And that's all that is relevant at the moment

once again this is also my only point in all of this. This is what led me to even respond in the first place.
We are talking about this specific case. Nothing else. Only fact in all this is if Zimmerman would of sat his ugly ass in his car and let the 17 year old kid finish his stroll home NONE OF THIS IS EVEN BEING DISCUSSED.

And for the love of god please everyone quit calling Trayvon a drug addict
just because he had pot in his system once

[pulledclear]

Oh please bets!!! If you think that sblib was just minding his OWN business and was even a good kid your CRAZY. If Zimmerman dumped that kids body in a dumpster and no one knew he did it, NO ONE WOULD GIVE A FCK. YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT, so lets cut the crap.

[pulledclear]

" Stroll home"....... Please define his "home".

[Fidel_CashFlow]

[Jayvegas420]

I think this whole thing is an atrocity but what I find most vile is that he ate poor little Travon after killing him.
You gotta draw the line somewhere!

[pulledclear]

[Let's Go Rangers]

Its basically as simple case.

If Trayvon doesn't punch Zimmerman simply nothing happens that night.

If Trayvon doesn't punch Zimmerman or retreats after knocking him to the ground, simply nothing happens that night also.

the problem is the punk then got on top of Zimmerman and started slamming his head into the ground

[Let's Go Rangers]

Pulled. None of what you just said....
Even if statistics back you up 100% as far as black crime still
makes what Zimmerman did that night any less sinister.
We are talking about an individual case.
Two lives that came together that night.
One person was doing nothing wrong at all .
Purchased some items and was en route
home takin on the phone to his girlfriend.
(dont know many criminals that talk on the phone while out causing trouble)
when all of a sudden someone approaches you with a predetermined disposition that you are guilty of something.
How do we know that is how Zimmerman approached him ?
Well because Zimm said to the dispatcher that
" these guys get away with shit all the time and im tired of it blah blah blah "
so im sure Zimmerman was not nice and
sweet wehn approaching the 18 year old teenager with skittles on the phone with his girlfriend ?


What is Trayvon spose to do ??? be a lil bitch and beg for the fella to leave him alone ?

No he stood his ground ... as any man should do that is not guilty of anything but being treated as a criminal


Especially dealing with someone 10 years older then you that is coming at you instigating shit up into your world.

A world that did not involve that pussy Zimmerman whatsoever until Zimmerman himself made it a impossible scenario

to avoid. On top of all of this. How are you guys defending this coward when he got worked by a kid then has to

shoot the kid because he is in fear of his life????? Add into all this the fact that Trayvon was not guilty of any crime.

Disturbing

Trayvon was guilty of a crime, assault and battery

I agree with you that Trayvon probably felt threatened any was justified and punching Zimmerman...
but once summer min was on the ground with a broken nose it is then up to Trayvon Martin to extricate himself from the situation, the threat is no longer there

instead Marchen decides she's going to keep hitting him by banging his head against the ground, that is assault and battery

(no different than if you and someone go outside for a bar fight... you hit the guy and knock him out the first punch.
At that point nothing illegal has happened.
if you then decide to kick him in the ribs... kick him in the head... curb stomp him...you are guilty of a crime )

[TheRifleman]

the one good thing to come out of this is that one less thug is on the streets of Miami and one less loser, thug we won't have to (ultimately) house.... most likely for LIFE.... in prison at the tax payers expense.....don't tell me, Trayvon had a future...lol!!!!

[Fidel_CashFlow]

crazy how people perceive things so drastically different from one another.

I think it basically comes down to what you have seen or been through in your life.

What path you have walked, mistakes you have made, or what you have seen ,encountered, or even conquered.

Sadly... im realizing that a lot of decisions seem to be made around here on the strong basis of color of skin alone.

Would never want to enclose my mind into that path of thinking....

would be a smothering fenced in feeling when attempting to make a rational decision on a subject imo