[PhillyFlyers]

Pretty insane, right?

Yet no one is calling for Obama to be impeached. Why are the fukkin liberals so quiet on these scandals?

Not a fukkin peep out of them.

Wonder what they would say if Reagan got caught doing this kind of illegal, nefarious shit.

[Let's Go Rangers]

wow do you not know anything about history ?

Nixon wasn't in deep shit over wiretapping, ( and by the way it wasn't wiretaps, it was tape recordings ) he eventually had to resign because of what was on those tapes

[Let's Go Rangers]

now keep in mind I think Obama is the worst president in the history of the United States and should be impeached but you do not bolster your argument with the Nixon analogy

[PhillyFlyers]

wow do you not know anything about history ?

Nixon wasn't in deep shit over wiretapping, ( and by the way it wasn't wiretaps, it was tape recordings ) he eventually had to resign because of what was on those tapes

It was the 70s version of wiretapping. It was only an office. Obama wiretapped the entire country. Both are illegal acts only Obama's is much worse.

From Wiki:
Wiretapping of the Democratic Party's headquarters

Main article: Watergate burglaries
In January 1972, G. Gordon Liddy, general counsel to the Committee for the Re-Election of the President (CRP), presented a campaign intelligence plan to CRP's Acting Chairman Jeb Stuart Magruder, Attorney General John Mitchell, and Presidential Counsel John Dean, that involved extensive illegal activities against the Democratic Party. Mitchell viewed the plan as unrealistic, but two months later is alleged to have approved a reduced version of the plan which involved burgling the Democratic National Committee's (DNC) headquarters at the Watergate Complex in Washington, D.C., the ostensible purpose of which was to photograph documents and install listening devices. Liddy was nominally in charge of the operation, but has since insisted that he was duped by Dean and at least two of his subordinates. These included former CIA officers E. Howard Hunt and James McCord, then CRP-Security Coordinator. (John Mitchell had by then resigned as Attorney General to become chairman of the CRP.)^[8]
After two attempts to break into the Watergate Complex failed to yield information of value, the order for yet another break-in was given to Liddy by Jeb Magruder, either acting on his own or on orders from Dean.
Shortly after midnight on June 17, 1972, Frank Wills, a security guard at the Watergate Complex, noticed tape covering the latches on doors in the complex (allowing the doors to close but remain unlocked). He removed the tape, and thought nothing of it. He returned an hour later, and having discovered that someone had retaped the locks, Wills called the police. Five men were discovered and arrested inside the DNC's office.^[8] The five men were Virgilio González, Bernard Barker, James McCord, Eugenio Martínez, and Frank Sturgis, who were charged with attempted burglary and attempted interception of telephone and other communications. On September 15, a grand jury indicted them, as well as Hunt and Liddy,^[9] for conspiracy, burglary, and violation of federal wiretapping laws. The five burglars who broke into the office were tried by Judge John Sirica and convicted on January 30, 1973.^[10]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal

[Let's Go Rangers]

the office that Nixon taped was his own

his words and knowledge meant about the Watergate break-in is what did him in.

if he had simply said " what tapes " and burned them he would have served a full second term

[Smoke]

George W. Phagbush is the one that implemented the program you idiot

[PhillyFlyers]

the office that Nixon taped was his own

his words and knowledge meant about the Watergate break-in is what did him in.

if he had simply said " what tapes " and burned them he would have served a full second term

You're missing the point.

Nixon acts were illegal and so is Obama's only Obama acted in a much larger scale than Nixon did.

There was wiretapping in the Watergate scandal. That is a fact so your argument is not only misguided but wrong too.

[PhillyFlyers]

George W. Phagbush is the one that implemented the program you idiot

Last time I checked, under Bush, they still had to get a warrant. Under Obama, they did as they pleased.

[tony_come]

Settle down smokie

Smokie I play quarterback

[Smoke]

Last time I checked, under Bush, they still had to get a warrant. Under Obama, they did as they pleased.

proof? And I dont really care if they spy cause I dont do shit but gamble and look at porn. Come get me motherfukkers! If it makes the world safer I am all for it

[Smoke]

Settle down smokie

Smokie I play quarterback

Im johhny the qb you are bobby the center

[PhillyFlyers]

proof? And I dont really care if they spy cause I dont do shit but gamble and look at porn. Come get me motherfukkers! If it makes the world safer I am all for it

This post is wrong on so many levels.

The problem is what happened was illegal and broke the laws of this country. It doesn't matter if you don't do anything wrong or not. There are laws and procedures that had to be followed and weren't.

Under Bush, the program ok'd domestic spying on phone calls as long as one party was calling from outside of the US. That didn't happen here. Instead, Obama authorized the program to spy on his own people.

This is a huge scandal.

[TheMoneyShot]

proof? And I dont really care if they spy cause I dont do shit but gamble and look at porn. Come get me motherfukkers! If it makes the world safer I am all for it

I'm all for it too Smoke... BUT.... BUT... what if these penny pinching bit#$ of a govt we have... start keeping a record of us and what we do? What we earn? Etc. That's what bothers me. Personally I believe we don't make what most do... in malicious illegal activity... but the infrastructure is probably so solid... one day we'll probably get a tax bill in the mail. That's what I don't like. I don't trust our govt. And they don't even do a good job covering up what they do. It's like a thief who drops things during a robbery. The govt is so careless... they wanted the word to get out what they're doing. They don't give a sh#$.

[Smoke]

@moneyshot things are different now because of 9/11 do we really want to see that shit happen again hell no. They dont give a shit that we gamble offshore and lose our money they aint comin after us. If we can stop a terrorist act b4 it happens i am all for it.

[PhillyFlyers]

@moneyshot things are different now because of 9/11 do we really want to see that shit happen again hell no. They dont give a shit that we gamble offshore and lose our money they aint comin after us. If we can stop a terrorist act b4 it happens i am all for it.

Do you honestly think wiretapping a phone call and reading people's emails is going to stop a potential terrorist attack?

[Smoke]

Do you honestly think wiretapping a phone call and reading people's emails is going to stop a potential terrorist attack?

Yes absolutely if someone contacts a known terrorist who knows what kind of intel we can get

[PhillyFlyers]

Yes absolutely if someone contacts a known terrorist who knows what kind of intel we can get

LOL This is fukkin stupid. The fukkin bad guys already know that emails and phone calls are getting watched. You think they're so stupid as to use them and not a different form of communication instead?

[Smoke]

LOL This is fukkin stupid. The fukkin bad guys already know that emails and phone calls are getting watched. You think they're so stupid as to use them and not a different form of communication instead?

they didnt know anything until word got out about this program. even now though if a terrorist is stupid enough to blow himself up he will be dumb enough to use the phone and email

[Let's Go Rangers]

You're missing the point.

Nixon acts were illegal and so is Obama's only Obama acted in a much larger scale than Nixon did.

There was wiretapping in the Watergate scandal. That is a fact so your argument is not only misguided but wrong too.

There were not wiretaps, listening devices were placed but because the burglary was caught in process there was not a wiretap ...only listening devices placed.

also Nixon knew nothing about this.

Nixon's resignation came from covering up the event after he found out about it, not ordering it

[darrell74]

Agree with Philly on this one

Nixon was probably a bad President in his day because times were different 40 years ago.
Despite reading all of his accomplishments:
China
ERA
ending the draft
anti-crime
balanced budget
airlift out of Vietnam
EPA
ending segregation in the south

Can't help but think Nixon would be a good President if he was around now.


Obama's accomplishment:
happened to be the President when Osama Bin Laden was killed

[muldoon]

Agree with Philly on this one

Nixon was probably a bad President in his day because times were different 40 years ago.

Temper your praise for him by perusing his traitorous actions

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21768668

[pronk]

Pretty insane, right?

Yet no one is calling for Obama to be impeached. Why are the fukkin liberals so quiet on these scandals?

Not a fukkin peep out of them.

Wonder what they would say if Reagan got caught doing this kind of illegal, nefarious shit.

Well, ape dubya and his uncle Dick started that whole thing with "Gestapo" Act, remember? They both should be executed for treason.

[CarpeDime]

They impeached Nixon for wiretapping his own office?

What's so bad about that??

that's BS, you should be able to do whatever you want to your own office, including wiretap it! How did they get away with that??

[Let's Go Rangers]

Philly must only know of Nixon from history books I'm assuming he was born by the time Nixon left office.

Nixon would have been eventually impeached for covering up knowledge of a criminal activity not for wiretapping or initiating the illegal activity

[PhillyFlyers]

Philly must only know of Nixon from history books I'm assuming he was born by the time Nixon left office.

Nixon would have been eventually impeached for covering up knowledge of a criminal activity not for wiretapping or initiating the illegal activity

I don't know what the fukk you're talking about and, apparently, neither do you.

Nixon is not the subject of this thread, Obama is.

Secondly, a grand jury did convict all five men who broke into the watergate as well as G. Gordon Liddy and E. Howard Hunt "for conspiracy, burglary, and violation of federal wiretapping laws".

To say that wiretapping was not involved in the watergate scandal is patently false.

[Let's Go Rangers]

I don't know what the fukk you're talking about and, apparently, neither do you.

Nixon is not the subject of this thread, Obama is.

Secondly, a grand jury did convict all five men who broke into the watergate as well as G. Gordon Liddy and E. Howard Hunt "for conspiracy, burglary, and violation of federal wiretapping laws".

To say that wiretapping was not involved in the watergate scandal is patently false.

Grand juries do not acquit or a convict...
They indict or don't indict

Listening devices were placed, but no conversations ever listened in on so a wiretap did not occur

The first words of your thread title
NIXON WIRETAPPED AN OFFICE...Nixon was not indicted, and nobody ever suggested he was in the Watergate that night

You are embarrassing yourself more and more with each post.
I was in high school during Watergate hearings...you only have your info from wikipedia.


Please, I beg you


quit while you are WAY BEHIND

[PhillyFlyers]

Grand juries do not acquit or a convict...They indict or don't indict Listening devices were placed, but no conversations ever listened in on so a wiretap did not occur The first words of your thread titleNIXON WIRETAPPED AN OFFICE...Nixon was not indicted, and nobody ever suggested he was in the Watergate that night You are embarrassing yourself more and more with each post.I was in high school during Watergate hearings...you only have your info from wikipedia.Please, I beg you quit while you are WAY BEHIND

Nixon ultimately took the fall for Watergate as the only sitting US Prez to ever resign to this day because of it.

Yes, the grand jury indicted them...which led to their convictions.

Whether or not any conversations were listened to is beside the point.