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    Ron Paul: Gang Of 8 Hiding National ID Card In Immigration Reform

    Right now, freedom-stealing Senators John McCain (R-AZ) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY), banding together with other statists from both parties, are scheming to sneak a massive power grab into a new “immigration reform” bill.

    If passed, it would require every American to obtain a National ID card to work legally in the U.S. – and you can bet it will be only a matter of time until they’re required even for simple purchases.
    http://ivn.us/common-sense/2013/05/0...ration-reform/

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    We're not quite there yet, but close.


    Revelation 13:17


    The Mark of the Beast

    16And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred three score and six.

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    Signs of the Last Days: Mark of the Beast

    The book of Revelation reveals that at some point in time the antichrist will be able to:

    • Track and control all financial transactions, and
    • That NO MAN will be able to buy or sell anything unless he has the mark of the beast.


    And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. - Revelation 13:16-17


    Not until recent times did people understand how this prophecy could possibly come to pass. There was simply no way that anyone could control the buying and selling activities on such a large scale.

    http://www.jeremiahproject.com/proph...fthebeast.html

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    The AntiChrist System Is Closer Than You May Think
    The technological challenges of an antichrist marking and tracking system are being overcome today at an ever increasing pace and should be ominous signs for serious students of Bible prophecy.

    Modern technology has created a brave new electronic world without borders. With modern computer technology, satellites, GPS, biometric and smart card technology, people can now be tracked within 3 feet anywhere in the world. Advances in digital technology have made it possible now to engineer an identification system capable of monitoring virtually every human transaction.

    Indeed, Antichrist's world government is not only believable but may have actually arrived.

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    In the wake of events following Sept. 11, 2001, the monitoring and tracking of people have become commonplace and huge databases are being compiled on every citizen. The American and British minion governments have essentially eliminated personal privacy and is now collecting data and tracking its citizens in nearly everything they do. Telephone conversations are being recorded, emails are being read, tweets and instant messages on social networking sites are being monitored, every purchase you make is being documented, and your movements are being tracked with GPS in your car and cell phone and we're being recorded by monitoring cameras all around us.

    Your movements and access to resources are being controlled, and in many cases citizens are being deprived of their Constitutional rights in the name of safety and security.

    Today, you cannot board an airplane or enter a government facility without being subjected to an invasive search that violates not only the Constitution but violates your personal privacy.

    The TSA (Transportation Security Administration) warns that any “would-be commercial airline passenger” who enters an airport checkpoint and refuses to be subjected to “the method of inspection designated by the TSA will not be allowed to fly and also will not be permitted to simply leave the airport.” Americans may be arrested and fined $11,000 if they refuse to cooperate with the agency’s invasive and humiliating techniques.

    Of course, the safety and security argument made by the TSA to advance their unconstitutional agenda is totally bogus as the real continuity of agenda is rooted in the antichrist system of command and control.

    If Americans continue to allow their government to violate their Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizures and be humiliated with naked body scans and enhanced pat downs in order to travel, what else will they let the government do? Homeland Security is considering replacing the naked body scanners with body scanners that scan and store biometric data.

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    You cannot open a bank account or conduct many other commercial transactions without providing government approved identity documents. These same proceedures are also now being extended to other forms of transportation and entry into public events.
    • Governments and large corporations are now introducing systems to identify individuals using biometric data as opposed to traditional card forms of identification, such as drivers’ licenses and membership cards. Providing Biometric date, including a fingerprint scan, is an act of submission that is being required by government and private venues more and more.
    • To obtain a driver’s license, you must submit to a thumb scan. If you refuse, you will not be issued a license, your right to travel will be severely limited, and you will lack a common form of personal identification.
    • In California, a thumb scan is required to obtain a real estate/mortgage broker’s license.
    • Beginning February 1, 2011, California will also require fingerprints to purchase ammunition, a substantial infringement on privacy and the right to bear arms.
    • The U.S. House of representatives approved the Katie Sepich Enhanced DNA Collection Act of 2010 (H.R. 4614) by a vote of 357 to 32., allowing for compiling national DNA databases taken from people arrested for but not convicted of crimes.
    • Newborn babies in the United States are routinely screened for a panel of genetic diseases by taking blood samples without parental consent. States mandate that newborns DNA samples are stored in state labs for anywhere from three months to indefinitely, depending on the state.


    While most of the control is now being exerted by Homeland Security over access to public facilities and transportation, the day is not far off when the globalists will also control world food and water supplies, and other necessary things necessary to live. The U.N. sponsored Codex Alimentarius is quickly becoming the controlling entity of everything that provides nutrition to humans. People will ultimately be required to either accept the mark of the beast or starve to death.


    What they can't accomplish through willfull compliance using fear and intimidation or legislation disguised as security, they do so illegally as President George W. Bush demonstrated during his term of office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers;18637464[U
    I[/U]f passed, it would require every American to obtain a National ID card to work legally in the U.S. – and you can bet it will be only a matter of time until they’re required even for simple purchases.
    Don't we already have one of these?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRifleman View Post
    Americans may be arrested and fined $11,000 if they refuse to cooperate with the agency’s invasive and humiliating techniques.
    When's the last time you've flown? I'm curious as to what "invasive and humiliating techniques" you have been subjected to? Was it the part about having to walk through a metal detector or the part where you have to put your carry-on luggage through the scanner while you walk through the metal detector?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilidog View Post
    Don't we already have one of these?

    Explain illegal mexicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    Explain illegal mexicans.
    You said "If passed, it would require every American to obtain a National ID card to work legally in the US". Well, in order to legally work in the US, you already have to have a "National ID card", called a Social Security Card.

    Making something illegal does not prevent somebody from doing it anyway. Illegal Mexicans already can't work in the States, yet they do so anyway. High school students can't drink beer, but they do it anyway. Committing crimes are illegal, too, but they sure to happen a lot.

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    joe biden with a little tell here

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7c6DjdghF4

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilidog View Post
    You said "If passed, it would require every American to obtain a National ID card to work legally in the US". Well, in order to legally work in the US, you already have to have a "National ID card", called a Social Security Card. Making something illegal does not prevent somebody from doing it anyway. Illegal Mexicans already can't work in the States, yet they do so anyway. High school students can't drink beer, but they do it anyway. Committing crimes are illegal, too, but they sure to happen a lot.
    The fukk are you talking about, idiot? Illegal mexicans are allowed to come here, drop a baby, and then get on every state and federal program available to them. Where is their social security card?

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    For a guy who claims to be a libertarian seems pretty shameful that Dr. No is just attacking the national ID aspect of the bill and ignoring the fact that it doesn't open the borders up completely to every hard working Tom, Dick, and Harry (Juan, Pigo, and Enrique?) that wants to walk across and look for work.

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    Pigo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountNo_Account View Post
    Pigo?
    Slang for Penis in Spanish? I've grown a bit rusty from my two years in High School near the end of the last century...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    The fukk are you talking about, idiot? Illegal mexicans are allowed to come here, drop a baby, and then get on every state and federal program available to them. Where is their social security card?
    You didn't mention any of these things in your post. You were talking about legally working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilidog View Post
    You didn't mention any of these things in your post. You were talking about legally working.
    God almighty, you can't be this stupid.

    Dropping a baby and then having that baby get automatic citizenship even though it's parents are illegal, means that baby has all rights to work the same as a natural born citizen does it not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    God almighty, you can't be this stupid.

    Dropping a baby and then having that baby get automatic citizenship even though it's parents are illegal, means that baby has all rights to work the same as a natural born citizen does it not?
    Yes, you are correct, but then that baby would not be an illegal Mexican, now would it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilidog View Post
    Yes, you are correct, but then that baby would not be an illegal Mexican, now would it?
    In any other first-world country on earth it would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    In any other first-world country on earth it would be.
    It is irrelevant what other countries choose to do or not to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilidog View Post
    It is irrelevant what other countries choose to do or not to do.
    Or it's relevant that the US is this incompetent compared to the rest of the civilized world when it comes to this matter.

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    Cheap labor/open borders is a Nuclear warhead in the war against the Middle class.......

    If you think the US government is going to help the people in a war that the US government waged on them........

    You are clinically insane...........

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