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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    You pussy, someone pointed out he's susceptible to body shots, shoulda dug one in. He should've at least got hit ONCE on a fight night.

    And holy shit, these guys have to get in the beer line? They don't pay someone to do that shit for them? They don't have a green room after the fight stocked with beer and snickerdoodles?
    lol that's what I was saying! so bizarre that he was on line. and this wasn't even the lower level of the arena, so he actually took the elevator/escalator up a level, and then got in line for a beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    lol that's what I was saying! so bizarre that he was on line. and this wasn't even the lower level of the arena, so he actually took the elevator/escalator up a level, and then got in line for a beer.
    Were people all over him? That's probably why he does it to soak up his 15 minutes of fame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebubzy View Post
    Don't you live in Alabama? Or is it Oregon?
    Is the inheritance from a Native American?
    Are you accusing my dead kitten of being an injun?

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    ha yeah, was same at UFC I went to. Hathaway came and sat right behind me and then I saw him later queuing with all the peasants to get a drink and having to take photos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Were people all over him? That's probably why he does it to soak up his 15 minutes of fame.
    haha actually I think I was the only person who recognizd him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    haha actually I think I was the only person who recognizd him!
    Heh, that had to be a crusher.

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    I have a final on macroeconomics for decision making and game theory
    subgame perfect equilibrium makes me think of you Which gives me a partial

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    You're so sweet.

    I'm kinda crushing on you right now big beez.

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    Funny story in regards to Nash equilibrium. I was talking to one of my best friends about poker, he's a sit-and-go grinder, and he doesn't take criticism very well. I told him that some of his all-in blind steals were questionable and too aggressive, and he told me that they were correct according to ICM. We went back and forth on the merits of ICM, with me telling him that ICM is limited in that it assumes that other players will also be playing near-optimally. If a donk is willing to call an all-in with any ace in the hopes of being 55%, ICM sort of flies out the window.

    Flash forward to a couple of months later, we have the same argument again. I tell him I think his all-in was in a bad spot, he tells me I'm being stupid, I tell him "for the last time, ICM only works whe-", he cuts me off. "THIS ISN'T ABOUT ICM. This is about Nash's law.". I had no idea what "Nash's law" was, so I asked him to explain. He said that a poker concept called Nash's law stated that his all-in was correct in that spot. I wasn't knowledgeable in the area, and so I told him that I wasn't qualified to argue with him and let the argument rest. He took this as a concession that I was wrong and he was right, and he started rubbing it in. Hardcore. Eventually, he slipped up and said "Nash's equilibrium" instead of "Nash's law", and I cut him off and said "wait, you meant Nash equilibrium?". I laughed at him, and asked him to explain to me what a Nash equilibrium is. He mumbled something about a Nash equilibrium being your hand range versus your opponent's hand range on the bubble. I replied "this Nash Ecuadorian thing sounds complicated". Can't make this shit up.

    Speaking of which, my understanding of Nash's equilibrium at the time (and now) lead me to believe that it isn't truly applicable to poker. I see it mentioned often though, so I could be very wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Speaking of which, my understanding of Nash's equilibrium at the time (and now) lead me to believe that it isn't truly applicable to poker. I see it mentioned often though, so I could be very wrong.
    Nash equilibria do come up in short stacked poker (read Sit-n-gos). It should be fairly obvious.

    You can also create scenarios wherein using Nash equilibrium is always optimal. Picture yourself playing heads up against Phil Ivey, a freeroll for a million dollars. If you play your normal HUNL strategy, phil will crush you close to 100% of the time. Using an optimal push/fold strategy forces Ivey to play an optimal call/fold strategy, wherein you've increased your chances of winning by orders of magnitude.

    Game theory is more useful for modeling situations in the actual poker world, however. Pick up mathematics of poker by Bill Chen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Flash forward to a couple of months later, we have the same argument again. I tell him I think his all-in was in a bad spot, he tells me I'm being stupid, I tell him "for the last time, ICM only works whe-", he cuts me off. "THIS ISN'T ABOUT ICM. This is about Nash's law.". I had no idea what "Nash's law" was, so I asked him to explain. He said that a poker concept called Nash's law stated that his all-in was correct in that spot. I wasn't knowledgeable in the area, and so I told him that I wasn't qualified to argue with him and let the argument rest. He took this as a concession that I was wrong and he was right, and he started rubbing it in. Hardcore. Eventually, he slipped up and said "Nash's equilibrium" instead of "Nash's law", and I cut him off and said "wait, you meant Nash equilibrium?". I laughed at him, and asked him to explain to me what a Nash equilibrium is. He mumbled something about a Nash equilibrium being your hand range versus your opponent's hand range on the bubble. I replied "this Nash Ecuadorian thing sounds complicated". Can't make this shit up.

    One of my students (back when I used to coach), said to me about 6 months into his learning of the game, "I've finally done it, I had a session where I made zero mistakes."

    I said, "that seems impossible, I don't know if I've ever gone 10 minutes without making a mistake."

    He said, "I guess I mean I didn't make any mistakes that caused me to lose the pot."

    I said, "wouldn't the easiest way to do that just be to call every hand all the way down? You wouldn't lose any of the pots you were meant to win, but you'd be stuck a lot of money."

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    Kentucky derby is tomorrow, here are some current props with value:

    Jockey Last Name Begins A-M +120
    Horse Name does not begin with AEIOU -250
    Horse starts from Gate 1 or Horse is 1-10 +120

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    Also love Will Secretariat's time be beaten, NO at anything better than -2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Kentucky derby is tomorrow, here are some current props with value:

    Jockey Last Name Begins A-M +120
    Horse Name does not begin with AEIOU -250
    Horse starts from Gate 1 or Horse is 1-10 +120
    A-m +154

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebubzy View Post
    A-m +154
    Still recommended nunya? where do they list the jockeys names..

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...rse-and-jockey
    Last edited by omalley21; 05-04-13 at 09:50 AM.

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    I see, we get 12 out of 20 with a-m but n-z has the two favorites, orb and verrazano. How accurate is the market?

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    Saddlecloth of winning horse Odd +162

    I don't know a damn thing about horse racing, but I'm assuming that just refers to the number on the horse?

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    The 3 OPENING faves are even (not current faves, my bad) Apparently theres a lot more to this lol. Like different lanes are more conducive to winning as well. Not that I know a damn thing, just reading it now.
    Last edited by omalley21; 05-04-13 at 10:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebubzy View Post
    A-m +154


    No value there at current market prices. Should win 38% of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrelicious View Post
    Saddlecloth of winning horse Odd +162

    I don't know a damn thing about horse racing, but I'm assuming that just refers to the number on the horse?
    Yes, and the gate #.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omalley21 View Post
    Still recommended nunya? where do they list the jockeys names..

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...rse-and-jockey
    http://www.docsports.com/kentucky-de...ld-lineup.html

    Horse 1 and the alternate are both scratches however. Lane 1 is riding empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebubzy View Post
    A-m +154
    That's the horses name, not jockeys. No value there.

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    So there's no clear cut way to determine the difference between a nose and a dead heat, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxscout View Post

    So there's no clear cut way to determine the difference between a nose and a dead heat, right?
    Not sure what you mean. I believe they just go by whatever equibase calls it. I don't know what the criteria are for that.

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    Kentucky Derby weather report: rain expected

    Churchill Downs will see overcast skies with rain showers. Temperatures will be in the mid-60s with winds blowing between 5-15 mph.

    At 5:00 p.m. ET, roughly 85 minutes before the race, the forecast calls for nine mph winds going south with showers.

    No horse has an edge in the sloppy conditions. All 19 horses are inexperienced on muddy tracks, according to UPI.

    "It'll make the Derby much more wide open," said Frac Daddy and Java's War trainer Kenny McPeek. "How they handle it and what kind of trips they get are completely out of our control."

    I like Nunyas bets even more now.

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    Yep, the likely muddy track should slow everything down. Look for the overs to cash.

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    All in on over 1:59:30

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    Nobody's mother was a mudder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Yep, the likely muddy track should slow everything down. Look for the overs to cash.
    Wellllp,

    Those lines sure got juiced fast.

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    Jockey first name does not start with J at -130 at bodog has value.

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    Winning jockey's 1st name starts with J +145 ? is this the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grabaka View Post
    Winning jockey's 1st name starts with J +145 ? is this the same?
    Yes, its arbable at 5d with that line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NunyaBidness View Post
    Kentucky derby is tomorrow, here are some current props with value:

    Jockey Last Name Begins A-M +120
    Horse Name does not begin with AEIOU -250
    Horse starts from Gate 1 or Horse is 1-10 +120
    Lose, Lose, lose.

    Overs cashed though.
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    Beelzebubzy gave NunyaBidness 2 SBR Point(s) for this post.


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    Played the over
    thankz nun

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    Any Preakness pony plays?

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