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    Should Abortion be Illegal?


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    nope

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    Yes.

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    No.

    Especially in rape cases.

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    whats the answer you wanna here seaweed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spankie View Post
    No.

    Especially in rape cases.
    So an innocent human being does not have the right to life because the means of how he came into existence did not have the mothers consent? Does that really justify killing an innocent human life? I mean, do two wrongs make a right? If a mother had a baby because of rape, would she be allowed to kill it right after birth? Or would that be wrong?

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    Race dependant

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyd2232 View Post
    Race dependant
    Hitler?

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    nope, 100% women's choice here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaweed View Post
    Hitler?
    not quite. I didn't say round up a certain race and exterminate them.

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    It's obviously illegal in whatever state Brock Landers was born in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhippo View Post
    nope, 100% women's choice here
    this....
    is so Fn wrong. It takes both genders to make a baby.

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    Yes, back to the cloth-hanger back-alley days

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    You should be able to abort a fetus until its at least 50 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaweed View Post
    So an innocent human being does not have the right to life because the means of how he came into existence did not have the mothers consent? Does that really justify killing an innocent human life? I mean, do two wrongs make a right? If a mother had a baby because of rape, would she be allowed to kill it right after birth? Or would that be wrong?
    Seaweed, what if the women's body who got raped had had a possibility to develop problems during a pregnancy and it was known that neither baby nor mother had a good probability of survival?

    Or say that a woman in general got pregnant and actually wanted a baby, but her body was unfit for a growing baby to develop properly and live?

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    Too many variables and examples to get a "correct" answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Seaweed, what if the women's body who got raped had had a possibility to develop problems during a pregnancy and it was known that neither baby nor mother had a good probability of survival?

    Or say that a woman in general got pregnant and actually wanted a baby, but her body was unfit for a growing baby to develop properly and live?
    First, keep in mind im referring to induced abortions (intentional) miscarriages are not intentional but are natural deaths.

    A) The Unborn are human at the moment of conception
    B) All humans have a right to life, and the right to develop properly.
    C) The unborn are innocent human beings.
    D) If it is justified to kill humans during our struggles during pregnancies, why is it wrong to kill an infant if it has become an economic burden to the Mother? It is because no matter the circumstances or problems, we should not intentionally kill babies to alleviate suffering. What stops us from killign the mentally ill? poor? sick? old? all burdens? Right to life precedes right to choice.
    E) Abortions due to rape occur only 1 percent of the time. Even less in the circumstance where the Mother's life is threatened.
    F) Should we make a law that allows 90 percent of the population to abort human lives intentionally because they see it as an inconvenience?
    F) Making abortion illegal will not eliminate it, but it will significantly decrease it and save many human lives. 1.5 million human lives are lost every year in the U.S from abortion.
    G) When abortion was illegal, it was being preformed by the same physicians who preform abortion when it is legal.
    H) If a mother's life is in danger during pregnancy, we should do everything in our power to treat that mother. However, intentionally killing the child is not an option. If the child dies, while we medicate the mother, that is an indirect abortion (miscarriage) An analogy can be made as follows: If one were trying to save 2 humans in a burning car, and was only able to save one, would it be just to shoot and kill the one you can't save? No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaweed View Post
    So an innocent human being does not have the right to life because the means of how he came into existence did not have the mothers consent? Does that really justify killing an innocent human life? I mean, do two wrongs make a right? If a mother had a baby because of rape, would she be allowed to kill it right after birth? Or would that be wrong?
    So the innocent mother is now forced the financial and emotional burden of raising a child she didn't plan for?

    GTFO

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    Conclusion: Killing an innocent human life, under any circumstances can never be accepted, justified, and aided. Respect to life is an objective moral right we all have. When we fail to protect the common good, we fail as human beings. Abortion should be illegal just like any other immoral act is : stealing, raping, killing,etc. We have limits on our freedoms and how we can use our bodies. When we are harming other peoples right to life, we are harming humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spankie View Post
    So the innocent mother is now forced the financial and emotional burden of raising a child she didn't plan for?

    GTFO
    A) No. Adoption is always an alternative option. Couples are on the waiting list, couples go to bed crying because they can't conceive. I agree, a mother should not be forced to have a child. But then again, noboby is forced (outside of rape) as there is consent to a sexual act. When engaged in that sexual act, one accepts responsibility for the actions. If you went to play football and broke a car window playing, you would accept the consequences even if you did not plan for the consequences. Simply because we accept the consequences and responsibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downsouth View Post
    You should be able to abort a fetus until its at least 50 years old.
    Please set an example for the rest of us to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhippo View Post
    nope, 100% women's choice here
    She had a choice to close her legs or use a rubber

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaweed View Post
    Only should be allowed for rape and incest victims before if you asked this would be sitting on the fence on this.

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    the abortion debate amazes me... how can you be for no abortion on any level, then try to ban and regulate birth control, then fight tooth and nail against the tax dollar that provide food, clothing, shelter, and health care to the poor little crack babies once they are born?

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    The question: "Should abortion be illegal?"

    The answer: "no"

    Your welcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrelicious View Post
    The question: "Should abortion be illegal?"

    The answer: "no"

    Your welcome.
    Abortion should NEVER be legal. Killing 1.5 million human beings a year in the U.S, where 90 percent of those are due to people not taking responsibility for their actions and removing life because it is inconvenient to them is never justified. If you believe killing innocent people is OK, then your answer would make sense. But Abortion remains the biggest human tragedy today. We don't deal with poverty by killing the poor, we dont deal with old people by killing them, we dont deal with the mentally ill because the fact is we cannot dispose of the people in society that are seen as burdens. We need to address the issues that are causing it in the first place. Abortion is killing human lives. All human lives are created with equal value. We all develop from the same organism that has our DNA, gender and our idenity. Our identity never changes but our abilities do.Are we supposed to kill those who are less developed? No.

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    The majority of these unwanted lives were probably not going to go on and live a life that was filled with love and opportunities considering that they were not wanted by the mother in the first place.

    Abortion in the is the least of the problems to really be concerned about in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    The majority of these unwanted lives were probably not going to go on and live a life that was filled with love and opportunities considering that they were not wanted by the mother in the first place.

    Abortion in the is the least of the problems to really be concerned about in this country.
    killing 1.5 million people is the least of worries? Well i guess taxes are more important than human life? The right to life is the foundation fo all other rights. People who go through with Abortions suffer emotionally their whole life. They suffer because of the seriousness of it. It is not an operation to remove fingernails, or "just tissue" it is a human life. It is not a potential human, but a human with great potential. So a child growing up in poverty stricken homes should allow their parents to kill them? based on your premise?

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    I always have found it amusing that the most vocal and aggressive anti abortion activists are men..

    Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyd2232 View Post
    this....
    is so Fn wrong. It takes both genders to make a baby.
    Don't give a fukk what you think is wrong, your \*\*\*\*\*\* opinions aren't facts sweetheart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrelicious View Post
    I always have found it amusing that the most vocal and aggressive anti abortion activists are men..

    Just sayin.
    Go read a book, most are WOMEN. Fact. I am not anti. It's always seen in a negative context. Yo uare brainwashed by the media. Anti this anti that, i am Pro-Life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaweed View Post
    killing 1.5 million people is the least of worries? Well i guess taxes are more important than human life? The right to life is the foundation fo all other rights. People who go through with Abortions suffer emotionally their whole life. They suffer because of the seriousness of it. It is not an operation to remove fingernails, or "just tissue" it is a human life. It is not a potential human, but a human with great potential. So a child growing up in poverty stricken homes should allow their parents to kill them? based on your premise?
    No, my point is I would rather see an unwanted life aborted before it has a chance to suffer rather than it have to learn what suffering is all about.

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