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    Muslims sentence 8 people to DEATH for stupid, silly film

    They just hate free speech and hate the TRUTH even more.

    Filthy bastards.



    There isn't a religion on earth, except the gutter religion/ death cult, called Islam, who would KILL someone for presenting their point of view. What are they afraid of? These people are horrific beasts...... What kind of "religion" is this anyway??? God is the only one that decides life or death. What dirt-bags.
    Egypt court sentences 8 to death over prophet film

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...11-28-09-25-25

    CAIRO (AP) -- An Egyptian court convicted in absentia Wednesday seven Egyptian Coptic Christians and a Florida-based American pastor, sentencing them to death on charges linked to an anti-Islam film that had sparked riots in parts of the Muslim world.
    The case was seen as largely symbolic because the defendants, most of whom live in the United States, are all outside Egypt and are thus unlikely to ever face the sentence. The charges were brought in September during a wave of public outrage in Egypt over the amateur film, which was produced by an Egyptian-American Copt.
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    You think Islam is the only religion that has killed because of its views?


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    Quote Originally Posted by keyboarding View Post
    You think Islam is the only religion that has killed because of its views?

    Narrow it down to the last 20 years, and I would have to say yes.

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    The media targets Islam because of the emotional connection to 9/11. If you break down the math of the number of Muslims in the world compared to how many people they have actually killed, it's not going to be all that noteworthy. The article posted is completely irrelevant as its a death sentence issued by a country that doesn't even have jurisdiction to follow through.

    Now, if you think the religious extremists in Islam are bad, I can't imagine what you think of what has happened in Rwanda and Darfur. You want to talk extremes in the last 20 years, let's start there.

    All groups, whether it be religious, political, or ethnic, will have extremists. It's the way of the world.

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    Them sons of bitches hate freedom!

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    Good for them! There are consequences for passing such filthy garbage. Although the ruling is not much more than symbolic, it's a start.

    لا إله إلا الله وأن محمدا رسول
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    Good for them! There are consequences for passing such filthy garbage. Although the ruling is not much more than symbolic, it's a start.

    لا إله إلا الله وأن محمدا رسول
    You are walking, talking, breathing filthy garbage. You are a fraud and you are a filthy liar too. Why haven't you been sentenced to death?

    There is NO PALESTINE. There are NO palestinians. Yassar Arafart was an Egyptian, who died with over 1 BILLION $ in his personal bank account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    Good for them! There are consequences for passing such filthy garbage. Although the ruling is not much more than symbolic, it's a start.

    لا إله إلا الله وأن محمدا رسول
    see paco and mikial, this is why people hate your religion, not trying to start anything with ya, I like you guys, and for them to do this in the name of god, just going to get them sent to hell to burn for eternity

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    I'm surprised the Rifleman didn't blame Obama.

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    ever chilidogged a girl?

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    fuk jew

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    What I don't understand is why they act like animals when they are "outraged" or demand things like children. People lose respect for Middle Eastern countries because they act that way. If their populations ever had civilized protests where they weren't flipping cars, shooting AK 47s in the air, and burning flags, I'm sure the West would have a more favorable view on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosniboR11 View Post
    see paco and mikial, this is why people hate your religion, not trying to start anything with ya, I like you guys, and for them to do this in the name of god, just going to get them sent to hell to burn for eternity
    Now that is where our beliefs differ. Muslims believe those responsible for that filthy movie have earned "God's" wrath and according to sharia law their death sentence is just and legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom177 View Post
    What I don't understand is why they act like animals when they are "outraged" or demand things like children. People lose respect for Middle Eastern countries because they act that way. If their populations ever had civilized protests where they weren't flipping cars, shooting AK 47s in the air, and burning flags, I'm sure the West would have a more favorable view on them.
    so you think muslims should change their way to appease westerners? News flash to the common ignoramus in the west.... Muslims don't care what you think!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom177 View Post
    What I don't understand is why they act like animals when they are "outraged" or demand things like children. People lose respect for Middle Eastern countries because they act that way. If their populations ever had civilized protests where they weren't flipping cars, shooting AK 47s in the air, and burning flags, I'm sure the West would have a more favorable view on them.
    Because it works. Civilized protests don't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    Muslims don't care what you think!!!
    That is clear. The West ridicules the East because they act that way, they criticize the West because we are full of "common ignoramus". If the West decides to take away foreign aid to some of these countries they would be crippled.

    Since 2007 this is how much $ the US has given them
    Egypt=9.5 billion
    Jordan=4.5 billion
    Lebanon= 1.4 billion
    Libya=1.4 billion

    I'm sure they will start to care what the West thinks once they get cut off...WWIII?

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    Religion is Bullshit.I am happy that i live in a country (Albania) where we don't give a f\*\*k about religion

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilidog View Post
    I'm surprised the Rifleman didn't blame Obama.

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    Muslims are as misinformed as Christians.

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    Bunch of nutters for sure. They kill not because it works (obviously it doesnt) but because its their wakky culture. It's all they know. All disputes are handled with by killing. They know no better.

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    The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with
    nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with
    commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be
    hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called
    'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join
    the slaughter.
    Unlike nearly all of the Old
    Testament verses of violence
    , the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly
    open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of
    the surrounding text. They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah,
    and just as relevant or subjective as anything else in the Quran.
    Most of today's Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy
    book's many calls to violence according to what their own moral preconceptions
    find justificable. Apologists cater to their preferences with tenuous arguments
    that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny.
    Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people,
    but bad ideology.
    Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate
    or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued
    until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed.
    Muhammad's own martial legacy - and that of his companions - along with the
    remarkable stress on violence found in the Quran have produced a trail of blood
    and tears across world history.

    The Quran:

    Quran
    (2:191-193)
    - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of
    the places whence they drove you out, for persecution
    [of
    Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]
    ... but if they
    desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until
    persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
    The historical
    context
    of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and
    his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by
    their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in
    that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later
    did
    ). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie.
    unbelievers desist in their unbelief.
    Quran
    (2:244)
    - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth
    and knoweth all things."

    Quran
    (2:216)
    - "Fighting is prescribed
    for you
    , and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which
    is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah
    knoweth, and ye know not."
    Not only does this verse establish that violence
    can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only
    in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.
    From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad
    was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding
    merchant caravans
    for loot.
    Quran
    (3:56)
    - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible
    agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to
    help."

    Quran
    (3:151)
    - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers,
    for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no
    authority".
    This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes
    Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly
    believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').
    Quran
    (4:74)
    - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this
    world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he
    victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
    The martyrs of Islam are
    unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are
    killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause
    of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.
    Quran
    (4:76)
    - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
    Quran
    (4:89)
    - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus
    be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until
    they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn
    renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case)
    take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

    Quran
    (4:95)
    - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no
    hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and
    their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight
    with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in
    Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He
    distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"
    This
    passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting
    them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the
    modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a
    spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is
    clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically
    disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to
    be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and
    this is reflected in other translations of the verse).
    Quran
    (4:104)
    - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer
    pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."
    Is pursuing
    an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?
    Quran
    (5:33)
    - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His
    messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should
    be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on
    opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for
    them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous
    chastisement"

    Quran
    (8:12)
    - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve.
    Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
    No
    reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.
    Quran
    (8:15)
    - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle,
    turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them,
    unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath
    incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's
    end."

    Quran
    (8:39)
    - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder,
    unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah" Some translations
    interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this
    word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:293, also).
    The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj.
    Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since
    Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also
    acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to
    destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence
    the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for
    Allah"
    , meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of
    the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further
    explains that "Allah must have no rivals."
    Quran
    (8:57)
    - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to
    strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

    Quran
    (8:59-60)
    - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can
    outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all
    thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay
    the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

    Quran
    (8:65)
    - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."
    Quran
    (9:5)
    - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the
    idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie
    in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay
    the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."
    According to this verse, the
    best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer
    (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five
    Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the
    context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since
    the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they
    been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a
    duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).
    Quran
    (9:14)
    - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them
    to disgrace..."

    Quran
    (9:20)
    - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with
    their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's
    sight. These are they who are triumphant."
    The "striving" spoken of here is
    Jihad (Arabic).
    Quran
    (9:29)
    - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold
    that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor
    acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book,
    until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
    "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. This was one of the
    final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military
    expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the
    Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other
    people and faiths.
    Quran
    (9:30)
    - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians
    say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they
    imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how
    they are turned away!"

    Quran
    (9:38-39)
    - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye
    are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do
    ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of
    this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish
    you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."
    This is a
    warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.
    Quran
    (9:41)
    - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your
    wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but
    knew."
    See also the verse that follows (9:42)
    - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would
    (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed)
    on them"
    This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in
    self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long
    distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case,
    according to the historians).
    Quran
    (9:73)
    - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the
    hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the
    destination."
    Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims
    that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.
    It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside
    the faith.
    Quran
    (9:88)
    - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and
    fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and
    it is they who will prosper."

    Quran
    (9:111)
    - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their
    goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His
    cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the
    Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than
    Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the
    achievement supreme."

    Quran
    (9:123)
    - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near
    to you and let them find in you hardness."

    Quran
    (17:16)
    - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to
    the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word
    proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."
    Note that
    the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction."
    (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an
    invitation to Islam).
    Quran
    (18:65-81)
    - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor
    killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the
    family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story
    (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses
    encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to
    make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later
    explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74).
    However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would
    "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that
    Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor
    killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says
    that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills
    their offspring (o.1.1-2).)
    Quran
    (21:44)
    - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their
    fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually
    reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they
    who will win?"

    Quran
    (25:52)
    - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against
    them with the utmost strenuousness..."
    "Strive against" is Jihad -
    obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that
    this is a Meccan verse.
    Quran
    (33:60-62)
    - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease,
    and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against
    them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they
    will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."
    This
    passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in
    other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to
    "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167)
    and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which
    include Jews and Christians 5:51-52),
    and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against
    Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims
    are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this
    passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why
    it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.
    Quran
    (47:3-4)
    - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who
    believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men
    their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who
    disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make
    (them) prisoners,"
    Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle. The
    verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is
    in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.
    "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution
    from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with
    others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their
    deeds be lost."

    Quran
    (47:35)
    - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye
    should be uppermost
    (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with
    you,"

    Quran
    (48:17)
    - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the
    lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso
    obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which
    rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."
    Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual
    struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse
    also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.
    Quran
    (48:29)
    - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are
    hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"
    Islam is not about treating everyone equally. There are two
    very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the
    word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the
    word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.
    Quran
    (61:4)
    - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of
    Peace, indeed! This is followed by (61:9):
    "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the
    religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even
    though the infidels may resist
    ."

    Quran
    (61:10-12)
    - "O ye who believe! Shall I lead you to a bargain that will
    save you from a grievous Penalty?- That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger,
    and that ye strive (your utmost) in the Cause of Allah, with your property and
    your persons: That will be best for you, if ye but knew! He will forgive you
    your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, and to beautiful
    mansions in Gardens of Eternity."
    This verse was given in battle. It uses
    the Arabic word, Jihad.
    Quran
    (66:9)
    - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites,
    and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."
    The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy
    war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who
    call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

    From the Hadith:

    Bukhari
    (52:177)
    - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until
    you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will
    say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

    Bukhari
    (52:256)
    - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack
    the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and
    children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are
    from them (i.e. pagans)."
    In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is
    permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy.
    This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.
    Bukhari
    (52:220)
    - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with
    terror'

    Abu
    Dawud (14:2526)
    - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are
    the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no
    god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and
    not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be
    performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day
    the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

    Abu
    Dawud (14:2527)
    - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad)
    is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether
    he is pious or impious

    Muslim
    (1:33)
    - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight
    against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad
    is the messenger of Allah

    Bukhari
    (8:387)
    - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people
    till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say
    so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then
    their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with
    them except legally."

    Muslim
    (1:30)
    - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight
    against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but
    Allah."

    Bukhari
    (11:626)
    - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the
    prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses
    for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."

    Muslim
    (1:149)
    - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the
    deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in
    His cause..."

    Muslim
    (20:4645)
    - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is
    another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one
    hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to
    the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act?
    He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

    Muslim
    (20:4696)
    - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One
    who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or
    determination) for Jihid died the death of a hypocrite.'"

    Muslim
    (19:4321-4323)
    - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the
    news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against
    unbelievers. His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."
    Muslim
    (19:4294)
    - "When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed
    anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him... He
    would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against
    those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war... When you meet your enemies
    who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to
    any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any
    harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them
    and desist from fighting against them... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand
    from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your
    hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.
    Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet
    declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."
    Ashraf was a poet,
    killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the
    scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by
    his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.
    Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The
    words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
    Tabari 17:187 "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have
    departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their
    religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and
    seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion."
    The words
    of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error
    after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah.
    The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men
    were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.
    Ibn Ishaq/Hisham
    327: - “Allah said, ‘A
    prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven
    from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the
    ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the
    religion.’”

    Ibn Ishaq/Hisham
    990: - Lest anyone think that
    cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern creation,
    here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to
    approve.
    Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992:
    - "Fight everyone in the way
    of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."
    Muhammad's instructions
    to his men prior to a military raid.

    Additional Notes:

    Other than the fact that Muslims haven't killed every
    non-Muslim under their domain, there is very little else that they can point to
    as proof that theirs is a peaceful, tolerant religion. Where Islam is dominant
    (as in the Middle East and Pakistan) religious minorities suffer brutal
    persecution with little resistance. Where Islam is in the minority (as in
    Thailand, the Philippines and Europe) there is the threat of violence if Muslim
    demands are not met. Either situation seems to provide a justification for
    religious terrorism, which is persistent and endemic to Islamic
    fundamentalism.
    The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses
    of Islam's most sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of
    religious tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier
    "Meccan" verses which are obviously abrogated by later ones. This is why Muslim
    apologists speak of the "risks" of trying to interpret the Quran without their
    "assistance" - even while claiming that it is a perfect book.
    Far from being mere history or theological construct, the
    violent verses of the Quran have played a key role in very real massacre and
    genocide. This includes the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for
    five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghazni's bloody
    conquest. Both he and the later Tamerlane (Islam's Genghis Khan) slaughtered an
    untold number merely for defending their temples from destruction. Buddhism was
    very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent. Judaism and Christianity met the
    same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including
    the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including today's Turkey.
    Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by
    Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran.
    So ingrained is violence in the religion that Islam has never
    really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself.
    Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring
    the men, raping
    their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his
    own. On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged
    inhabitants and even butchered captives.
    He actually inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right
    to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with
    Hell if they did not. Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women
    captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members
    were slaughtered.
    It is important to emphasize that, for the most part, Muslim
    armies waged aggressive campaigns, and the religion's most dramatic
    military conquests were made by the actual companions of Muhammad in the decades
    following his death. The early Islamic principle of warfare was that the
    civilian population of a town was to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and
    children taken as slaves) if they defended themselves. Although modern
    apologists often claim that Muslims are only supposed to attack in self-defense,
    this is an oxymoron that is flatly
    contradicted
    by the accounts of Islamic historians and others that go back
    to the time of Muhammad.
    Consider the example of the Qurayza Jews, who were completely
    obliterated only five years after Muhammad arrived in Medina. Their leader
    opted to stay neutral when their town was besieged by a Meccan army that was
    sent to take revenge for Muhammad's deadly caravan raids. The tribe killed no
    one from either side and even surrendered peacefully to Muhammad after the
    Meccans had been turned back. Yet the prophet of Islam had every male member of
    the Qurayza beheaded, and every woman and child enslaved, even raping one of the
    captives himself (what Muslim apologists might refer to as "same day
    marriage").
    One of Islam's most revered modern scholars, Sheikh Yusuf
    al-Qaradawi, openly sanctions offensive Jihad: "In the Jihad which you are
    seeking, you look for the enemy and invade him. This type of Jihad takes place only when the Islamic state is invading other
    [countries] in order to spread the word of
    Islam
    and to remove obstacles standing in its way."
    Elsewhere, he
    notes: "Islam has the right to take the initiative…this is God’s religion and
    it is for the whole world. It has the right to destroy all obstacles in the form
    of institutions and traditions … it attacks institutions and traditions to
    release human beings from their poisonous influences, which distort human nature
    and curtail human freedom. Those who say that Islamic Jihad was merely for the
    defense of the 'homeland of Islam' diminish the greatness of the Islamic way of
    life."

    The widely respected Dictionary of Islam
    defines Jihad as "A religious war with those who are unbelievers in the
    mission of Muhammad. It is an incumbent religious duty, established in the
    Qur'an and in the Traditions as a divine institution, and enjoined specially for
    the purpose of advancing Islam and of repelling evil from Muslims…[Quoting from
    the Hanafi school, Hedaya, 2:140, 141.], "The destruction of the sword is
    incurred by infidels, although they be not the first aggressors
    , as appears
    from various passages in the traditions which are generally received to this
    effect."

    Muhammad's failure to leave a clear line of succession
    resulted in perpetual internal war following his death. Those who knew him best
    first fought to keep remote tribes from leaving Islam and reverting to their
    preferred religion (the Ridda or 'Apostasy wars'). Then, within the closer
    community, early Meccan converts battled later ones. Hostility developed
    between those immigrants who had traveled with Muhammad to Mecca and the Ansar
    at Medina who had helped them settle in. Finally there was a violent struggle
    within Muhammad's own family between his favorite wife and favorite daughter - a
    jagged schism that has left Shias and Sunnis at each others' throats to this
    day.
    The strangest and most untrue thing that can be said about
    Islam is that it is a Religion of Peace. If every standard by which the West is
    judged and condemned (slavery, imperialism, intolerance, misogyny, sexual
    repression, warfare...) were applied equally to Islam, the verdict would be
    devastating. Islam never gives up what it conquers, be it religion, culture,
    language or life. Neither does it make apologies or any real effort at moral
    progress. It is the least open to dialogue and the most self-absorbed. It is
    convinced of its own perfection, yet brutally shuns self-examination and
    represses criticism.
    This is what makes the Quran's verses of violence so
    dangerous. They are given the weight of divine command. While Muslim
    terrorists take them as literally as anything else in their holy book, and
    understand that Islam is incomplete without Jihad, moderates offer little to
    contradict them - outside of opinion. Indeed, what do they have? Speaking of
    peace and love may win over the ignorant, but when every twelfth verse of
    Islam's holiest book either speaks to Allah's hatred for non-Muslims or calls
    for their death, forced conversion, or subjugation, it's little wonder that
    sympathy for terrorism runs as deeply as it does in the
    broader community - even if most Muslims personally prefer not to interpret
    their religion in this way.
    Although scholars like Ibn Khaldun, one of Islam's most
    respected philosophers, understood that "the holy war is a religious duty,
    because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to)
    convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force",
    many other
    Muslims are either unaware or willfully ignorant of the Quran's near absence of
    verses that preach universal non-violence. Their understanding of Islam comes
    from what they are taught by others. In the West, it is typical for believers
    to think that their religion must be like Christianity - preaching the New
    Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance - because Muslims are taught
    that Islam is supposed to be superior in
    every way. They are somewhat surprised and embarrassed to learn that the
    evidence of the Quran and the bloody history of Islam are very much in
    contradiction to this.
    Others simply accept the violence. In 1991, a Palestinian
    couple in America was convicted of stabbing their daughter to death for being
    too Westernized. A family friend came to their defense, excoriating the jury
    for not understanding the "culture", claiming that the father was merely
    following "the religion" and saying that the couple had to "discipline their
    daughter or lose respect." (source).
    In 2011, unrepentant Palestinian terrorists, responsible for the brutal murders
    of civilians, women and children explicitly in
    the name of Allah were treated to a luxurious "holy pilgrimage" to Mecca by the
    Saudi king - without a single Muslim voice raised in protest.
    For their part, Western liberals would do well not to
    sacrifice critical thinking to the god of political correctness, or look for
    reasons to bring other religion down to the level of Islam merely to avoid the
    existential truth that this it is both different and dangerous.
    There are just too many Muslims who take the Quran
    literally... and too many others who couldn't care less about the violence done
    in the name of Islam.
    Thanks for the "warning" Egypt, but an as a reminder, everyone and their mother knew or "felt" The Muslim Brotherhood would bend Egyptians over, that's what all the objection was about if anyone remembers?!?!
    This is why there will NEVER be peace where there is Islam. It is a militant religion. And to those of you who say The Bible or Hebrew books are the same, no, Christianity and Judaism were founded hundreds of years before Islam, and they have NO mention or verses preaching violence specifically towards Muslims. However, Islam DOES have verses (obviously) which tell ALL muslims to kill.

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    You're just copying and pasting a bunch of shit that few are going to read. Who gives a fukk?

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    Only a group of sick fukks would strip down and stone a 16 year old girl to death.

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    "most of whom live in the United States, are all outside Egypt and are thus unlikely to ever face the sentence."

    Atleast most of the Americans are not going to die

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikail View Post
    Good for them! There are consequences for passing such filthy garbage. Although the ruling is not much more than symbolic, it's a start.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRifleman View Post

    You are walking, talking, breathing filthy garbage. You are a fraud and you are a filthy liar too. Why haven't you been sentenced to death?

    There is NO PALESTINE. There are NO palestinians. Yassar Arafart was an Egyptian, who died with over 1 BILLION $ in his personal bank account.
    Exactly and the Israeli's made sure to poison his stink'in ass too! They dug up this piece of shit just to make sure! Stupid ass fuk'in muslim fuk heads, they're so fuk'in stupid, they make it too easy! So glad we gave Israel drones to fuk'in make hamburger outta these assholes! mohammed was a child raping stink'in filthy muslim who got stupid ignorant idiots to follow him!


    لا إله إلا الله وأن محمدا رسول
    ^^ Translation: "I fuk camels up the ass and like it!"

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