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  • DwightShrute
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-17-09
    • 103077

    #7771
    Originally posted by d2bets
    It is effective at preventing infection, but only for a short period of time ~ 2-3 months.

    I don't know anyone who acquired covid within a couple months of either vaccination or prior infection. And yes, I ask.

    This is why I'm timing my booster for my next vacation.

    You can make a value judgment as to how useful a vaccine is that only helps for 2 months, but it does do that.
    says who?

    There is no scientific evidence.

    This Covid shit is just a way for the governments of the world to see just how much control over their lives people are willing to give up. How they can get people to turn against each other by denying facts. How they publicly admit these vaccines won't prevent anyone from getting Covid or passing it on to someone else but still try and force people to take the vaccine or lose their job or prevented from traveling, and a certain percentage of the population are supporting this tyranny and will continue to do so. This is what indoctrination looks like.

    The same government that looks into the camera and tells you the border is secure while millions from all over the world are coming in illegally.

    They think you're stupid. They will spend hundreds of millions for that one extra senate seat so they can retain the power over your lives while making themselves filthy ass rich while people are living in the streets in record number and the country goes over 30 trillion into debt. No one really cares on the Left. They care about more important things. Obeying for one. Another is appearance rather than competence. We must be inclusive! We must have a Black woman as VP and as a Supreme Court Justice. We must have a Black lesbian as press secretary. We must have non binary people throughout the administration. Appearance is the most important thing.

    So go ahead. Take your next booster and the next one after that and the next dozen after that despite no evidence it helps in anyway. In fact, the opposite seems to be true. But hey, its your decision.

    Everyone behaves the same, everyone reads from the same catechism, they shout the same slogans and everyone obeys.

    That is why they can do what they do and will keep on doing it.
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    • d2bets
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 08-10-05
      • 39995

      #7772
      Originally posted by DwightShrute
      says who?

      There is no scientific evidence.

      This Covid shit is just a way for the governments of the world to see just how much control over their lives people are willing to give up. How they can get people to turn against each other by denying facts. How they publicly admit these vaccines won't prevent anyone from getting Covid or passing it on to someone else but still try and force people to take the vaccine or lose their job or prevented from traveling, and a certain percentage of the population are supporting this tyranny and will continue to do so. This is what indoctrination looks like.

      The same government that looks into the camera and tells you the border is secure while millions from all over the world are coming in illegally.

      They think you're stupid. They will spend hundreds of millions for that one extra senate seat so they can retain the power over your lives while making themselves filthy ass rich while people are living in the streets in record number and the country goes over 30 trillion into debt. No one really cares on the Left. They care about more important things. Obeying for one. Another is appearance rather than competence. We must be inclusive! We must have a Black woman as VP and as a Supreme Court Justice. We must have a Black lesbian as press secretary. We must have non binary people throughout the administration. Appearance is the most important thing.

      So go ahead. Take your next booster and the next one after that and the next dozen after that despite no evidence it helps in anyway. In fact, the opposite seems to be true. But hey, its your decision.

      Everyone behaves the same, everyone reads from the same catechism, they shout the same slogans and everyone obeys.

      That is why they can do what they do and will keep on doing it.
      The Trump Vaccine does have some efficacy, but it's limited. Less than what they claim, but not nothing. Is it worth it for limited time protection? Up to you.

      I'm never going to convince you anyway.

      But like I said, whenever I hear someone got covid, I do ask when they got their last vaccine shot or was infected. Never once have I ever heard anyone get covid within 1 week after and 2 months of shot (or within 2 month of infection). There is a window of protection. The problem with the vaccines is the protection against infection wanes too quickly.

      If it's all just a hoax, then I guess Trump is in the hoax. Or he couldn't figure out that it's a hoax. Which is it? Your savior believes in the vaccine.
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      • DwightShrute
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-17-09
        • 103077

        #7773
        Originally posted by d2bets
        The Trump Vaccine does have some efficacy, but it's limited. Less than what they claim, but not nothing. Is it worth it for limited time protection? Up to you.

        I'm never going to convince you anyway.

        But like I said, whenever I hear someone got covid, I do ask when they got their last vaccine shot or was infected. Never once have I ever heard anyone get covid within 1 week after and 2 months of shot (or within 2 month of infection). There is a window of protection. The problem with the vaccines is the protection against infection wanes too quickly.

        If it's all just a hoax, then I guess Trump is in the hoax. Or he couldn't figure out that it's a hoax. Which is it? Your savior believes in the vaccine.
        I like how you said "Trump vaccine" as if that is supposed to mean something.

        The Left's need to subjugate requires people to be scared and ignorant. Scared people give up their civil liberties. Ignorant people don't know its happening. They are fed information to get them scared.

        The inventor of the mNRA vaccine says it doesn't work. Doctor after doctor tells you this and shows data as to how harmful it is, such as this I posted earlier #7701


        The biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who doesn't care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. There are people who, for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand. Others who are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want is to be right even if they aren’t.

        When IGNORANCE SCREAMS, intelligence moves on. Have a nice day!
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        • d2bets
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-10-05
          • 39995

          #7774
          Originally posted by DwightShrute
          I like how you said "Trump vaccine" as if that is supposed to mean something.

          The Left's need to subjugate requires people to be scared and ignorant. Scared people give up their civil liberties. Ignorant people don't know its happening. They are fed information to get them scared.

          The inventor of the mNRA vaccine says it doesn't work. Doctor after doctor tells you this and shows data as to how harmful it is, such as this I posted earlier #7701


          The biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who doesn't care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. There are people who, for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand. Others who are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want is to be right even if they aren’t.

          When IGNORANCE SCREAMS, intelligence moves on. Have a nice day!
          I believe Trump called it that. He said he basically invented it. He actually did play positive role in it, for that I give him credit. One of his very few accomplishments.

          So was he just duped by the hoax, or is he in on it?
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          • b1slickguy
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-24-11
            • 11959

            #7775
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 61356

              #7776
              Originally posted by d2bets
              It is effective at preventing infection, but only for a short period of time ~ 2-3 months.

              I don't know anyone who acquired covid within a couple months of either vaccination or prior infection. And yes, I ask.

              This is why I'm timing my booster for my next vacation.

              You can make a value judgment as to how useful a vaccine is that only helps for 2 months, but it does do that.

              I don't agree with that at all. And do not think there is even arguable evidence for that claim in the data.

              Top officials and politicians here said it was not going to do a lot to stop spread from very early on. at least by mid 2021 at latest.

              Which is maybe why I don't feel lied to about it.

              We were told that vaxed people would carry a much lower viral load when they did get infected which would reduce transmission, but that was the only vax effect for stopping people catching it.


              But same as there, "helpful" types with a public platform here talked crap. And now some people are convinced those people are part of a conspiracy. A conspiracy of the dumb-do-gooders maybe, but not an attempt to deceive from the key people in our govt.
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              • d2bets
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-10-05
                • 39995

                #7777
                Originally posted by Optional
                I don't agree with that at all. And do not think there is even arguable evidence for that claim in the data.

                Top officials and politicians here said it was not going to do a lot to stop spread from very early on. at least by mid 2021 at latest.

                Which is maybe why I don't feel lied to about it.

                We were told that vaxed people would carry a much lower viral load when they did get infected which would reduce transmission, but that was the only vax effect for stopping people catching it.


                But same as there, "helpful" types with a public platform here talked crap. And now some people are convinced those people are part of a conspiracy. A conspiracy of the dumb-do-gooders maybe, but not an attempt to deceive from the key people in our govt.
                Again, please read closely. I'm saying it prevents transmission, but only for a very narrow window. Because of that, overall it's still going to spread. At any time, most vaccinated people wont' have received the booster in the past two months. You can call that worthless or whatever, but I'm just saying what it does and doesn't do. It doesn't overall prevent transmission because most people walking around are not recently vaccinated.

                I'd like to see the data on how many are infected between 1-8 weeks after vaccination or booster. Show me that. I believe it's nil to none. Out of easily more than 100 people (damn near everyone at this point) who I've talked to having covid, not one had just recently gotten the vaccine. Not one. Maybe that's a coincidence. I don't think so. I'm confident that when I get my booster I am not going to be susceptible (after a week and) for two months.
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                • Optional
                  Administrator
                  • 06-10-10
                  • 61356

                  #7778
                  Originally posted by d2bets
                  Again, please read closely. I'm saying it prevents transmission, but only for a very narrow window. Because of that, overall it's still going to spread. At any time, most vaccinated people wont' have received the booster in the past two months. You can call that worthless or whatever, but I'm just saying what it does and doesn't do. It doesn't overall prevent transmission because most people walking around are not recently vaccinated.

                  I'd like to see the data on how many are infected between 1-8 weeks after vaccination or booster. Show me that. I believe it's nil to none. Out of easily more than 100 people (damn near everyone at this point) who I've talked to having covid, not one had just recently gotten the vaccine. Not one. Maybe that's a coincidence. I don't think so. I'm confident that when I get my booster I am not going to be susceptible (after a week and) for two months.
                  Ok, I read it more carefully.

                  And my opinion stands. I think you are wrong and that the data from the Australian experience directly contradicts your opinion.

                  Australia was locked down with very few infections before over 90% vax rate was achieved on 15th December 2020. 8 weeks after that would be mid February. There was a sudden explosion of infections immediately. Bu mid February it was already going down. There was no immunity from contracting it even in the first 8 weeks.

                  We went from a total of 10,000 confirmed cases on Dec 3 2020, to almost 500,000 by January 3 2021

                  But feel free to show some math based on official figures that supports your claim. Always up to be educated.
                  Last edited by Optional; 12-12-22, 04:25 PM.
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                  • d2bets
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 39995

                    #7779
                    Originally posted by Optional
                    Ok, I read it more carefully.

                    And my opinion stands. I think you are wrong and that the data from the Australian experience directly contradicts your opinion.

                    Australia was locked down with very few infections before over 90% vax rate was achieved on 15th December 2020. 8 weeks after that would be mid February. There was a sudden explosion of infections immediately. Bu mid February it was already going down. There was no immunity from contracting it even in the first 8 weeks.

                    We went from a total of 10,000 confirmed cases on Dec 3 2020, to almost 500,000 by January 3 2021

                    But feel free to show some math based on official figures that supports your claim. Always up to be educated.
                    Is Wikipedia wrong that the vax program began Feb 22, 2021?
                    COVID-19 vaccination in Australia

                    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



                    Jump to navigationJump to search
                    COVID-19 vaccinated map of Australia (as of 6 August 2022) [1]
                    22 February 2021 – present
                    (1 year, 293 days ago)
                    Australia
                    COVID-19 pandemic in Australia
                    Immunisation of Australians against COVID-19
                    A$1.87 billion[2]
                    • 21,206,612 people aged 12+ have received one dose of COVID-19 vaccine[3]
                    • 20,806,810 people aged 12+ have been fully vaccinated with two doses of vaccine
                    • 14,097,289 people aged 12+ have been booster given with three doses of vaccine
                    97% of the eligible Australian population aged 12+ have received one dose



                    95.2% of the eligible Australian population aged 12+ are fully vaccinated


                    64.5% of the eligible Australian population aged 12+ are booster given

                    Department of Health and Aged Care

                    A poster released in March 2021, part of the Australian Government's COVID-19 vaccination rollout



                    A poster from the government's vaccination campaign rolled out in July 2021, titled "Arm yourself against COVID-19"

                    The general COVID-19 vaccination in Australia program began on 22 February 2021 in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, with the goal of vaccinating all willing people in Australia before 2022.


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                    • Kermit
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 09-27-10
                      • 32555

                      #7780
                      Looks like Musk is getting ready to drop the twiiter files on Covid.
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 61356

                        #7781
                        Not sure what point you are making.

                        The country was locked down with very few infections until 90% of people were vaxxed. So yes, vaccination happened prior to the 15th December end of restrictions date.

                        Here is the graph to support what I told you



                        The latest data for coronavirus (COVID-19) cases from the WHO COVID-19 dashboard.



                        And before you tell me you dont believe that source, Google it yourself and use any other source you like. The graph will be the same.

                        You talk about your personal experience as some sort of proof. I would not normally do that but during that month or two right after the lockdowns ended and infections went wild, I promise you that almost everyone was affected and real fast.
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                        • goduke
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-17-10
                          • 11580

                          #7782
                          Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                          well i fund 6 people living with me, does that count? donate a lot of time and money, does that count? maybe i should be more of a braggart to make you happy, would you like a list so we can compare? pretty sure i've donated more than your entire lifetime earnings so maybe i win! oh boy i win a goduke stamp of approval! please please please that's all i ever wanted was your approval!

                          just on this forum today i gave someone (and his buddy) $2000 worth of free info on barstool promo, does that count?
                          Well then you should talk about those things then. To recap you told people that you should be thanked for being some sort of heroic person fighting some sort of fake rebellion against covid. So you literally asked for a stamp of approval on this site. You were looking for approval almost begging for it. I merely commented that in a sense that’s idiotic.
                          If you want to praise yourself for donating to charities I wouldn’t have commented.
                          You asked for a response and I gave you the one you probably deserved at that time for being idiotic
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                          • goduke
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-17-10
                            • 11580

                            #7783
                            Originally posted by Demonata
                            Don't even try with goduke. He loves COVID and masks.
                            Says the guy that has over 1000 posts in this thread alone. You couldn’t be more obsessed with covid if you tried. Everyone has moved past this and on with their life. What are you doing?
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                            • goduke
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-17-10
                              • 11580

                              #7784
                              Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                              i don't get it, people still believe the liars even after they admit they lied

                              dr birx flat out said that she knew vaccines wouldn't do anything to stop infections or transmission ... these weren't honest mistakes by someone trying to help, these were LIES by people who ended up hurting millions of people, businesses, schools, and churches... next step "climate lockdowns" (which are already happening in some areas) or other nonsense
                              Actually no one cares. We’ve all moved on. I got vaccinated I’m still alive, have not developed any sort of side effect that you and your boys like to talk about and I haven’t gotten covid once. That’s what I care about. Run your conspiracy theories all you want, I’m looking at myself and my experience which is undeniable and factual
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                              • Demonata
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-12-11
                                • 25829

                                #7785
                                Originally posted by goduke
                                Says the guy that has over 1000 posts in this thread alone. You couldn’t be more obsessed with covid if you tried. Everyone has moved past this and on with their life. What are you doing?
                                I have. I never even got vaccinated. You are excited Bout the next booster
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                                • DwightShrute
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-17-09
                                  • 103077

                                  #7786
                                  Originally posted by goduke
                                  Actually no one cares. We’ve all moved on. I got vaccinated I’m still alive, have not developed any sort of side effect that you and your boys like to talk about and I haven’t gotten covid once. That’s what I care about. Run your conspiracy theories all you want, I’m looking at myself and my experience which is undeniable and factual
                                  except that's not really true is it? There are companies still which require you to be vaccinated or they will NOT hire you. They obviously refuse to move on.

                                  Also, good that you have no side effects. Many do however. So why risk it? It should be a personal decision right? Companies or governments shouldn't be able to ask whether you have taken the experimental medicine which doesn't prevent you from getting covid or passing it on to others, should they?
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                                  • d2bets
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 08-10-05
                                    • 39995

                                    #7787
                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                    Not sure what point you are making.

                                    The country was locked down with very few infections until 90% of people were vaxxed. So yes, vaccination happened prior to the 15th December end of restrictions date.

                                    Here is the graph to support what I told you



                                    The latest data for coronavirus (COVID-19) cases from the WHO COVID-19 dashboard.



                                    And before you tell me you dont believe that source, Google it yourself and use any other source you like. The graph will be the same.

                                    You talk about your personal experience as some sort of proof. I would not normally do that but during that month or two right after the lockdowns ended and infections went wild, I promise you that almost everyone was affected and real fast.
                                    I'm totally confused. Everything I read says vaccination began February 2021. Are you saying that's not true? You're telling me 90% were vaxxed by Dec. 15, 2020? If so, Aus was miles ahead of the US. US didn't begin any vaxx until late December and then it was very limited to certain folks.



                                    And look at that link. It literally is a press release stating that vaccinations will begin Feb 22, 2021.

                                    You seem to be under a different set of facts than is stated everywhere.
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                                    • DwightShrute
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-17-09
                                      • 103077

                                      #7788
                                      <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="qme" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/grKFByeRiz">pic.twitter.com/grKFByeRiz</a></p>&mdash; I Meme Therefore I Am ���� (@ImMeme0) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1599436722563354624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                      • Optional
                                        Administrator
                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 61356

                                        #7789
                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                        I'm totally confused. Everything I read says vaccination began February 2021. Are you saying that's not true? You're telling me 90% were vaxxed by Dec. 15, 2020? If so, Aus was miles ahead of the US. US didn't begin any vaxx until late December and then it was very limited to certain folks.



                                        And look at that link. It literally is a press release stating that vaccinations will begin Feb 22, 2021.

                                        You seem to be under a different set of facts than is stated everywhere.
                                        I guess I mixed up years or typo 2020. Restrictions ended Dec 15 2021.

                                        The point of what I said is that even with a 90% vaxxed population, literally within one week of restrictions being lifted infection numbers exploded. Within one month it felt like almost everyone had had it. Whether someone was vaxxed 3 months or 3 weeks earlier it felt like there was zero protection from infection. It was crazy how fast we went from 5000 to 500000 active infections.

                                        And that played out pretty much as we were told to expect it to at the time.
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                                        • b1slickguy
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-24-11
                                          • 11959

                                          #7790


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                                          • d2bets
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 39995

                                            #7791
                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                            I guess I mixed up years or typo 2020. Restrictions ended Dec 15 2021.

                                            The point of what I said is that even with a 90% vaxxed population, literally within one week of restrictions being lifted infection numbers exploded. Within one month it felt like almost everyone had had it. Whether someone was vaxxed 3 months or 3 weeks earlier it felt like there was zero protection from infection. It was crazy how fast we went from 5000 to 500000 active infections.

                                            And that played out pretty much as we were told to expect it to at the time.
                                            Ah 2021, big difference.

                                            Anyway, I still wanna know how many that got infected had been vaccinated within the prior 2 months. Two different things. But of course, since nobody is vaccinated every two months, can't stop the spread.
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 61356

                                              #7792
                                              Originally posted by d2bets
                                              Ah 2021, big difference.

                                              Anyway, I still wanna know how many that got infected had been vaccinated within the prior 2 months. Two different things. But of course, since nobody is vaccinated every two months, can't stop the spread.
                                              Most people were recently vaxxed. We started mass vaccinations much later than you did as the govt stuffed up the ordering, so most people were done in a 3 to 5 month window prior to Dec 15. I'd guess at least half had first or second shot within 2 months of opening. Plus, our version of Fauci told the population it was to stop you clogging up hospitals and dieing, and people should continue to wear masks and social distance as the primary way to avoid it still. But I am not searching for more numbers.

                                              How about you make some effort and find some plausible stats to support your theory that the vaccines prevent infections for 8 weeks after they are administered. I think I gave you plenty and all I get back is 2020 v 2021 typo is super important.
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                                              • DwightShrute
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-17-09
                                                • 103077

                                                #7793
                                                <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Qantas sacked those that didn’t get the jab and outsourced the baggage handling, how far has this once great company fallen. <a href="https://t.co/sK66hLdpBc">pic.twitter.com/sK66hLdpBc</a></p>&mdash; “Mate” (@tigertuffmark) <a href="https://twitter.com/tigertuffmark/status/1598873275823972352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                                • d2bets
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                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 39995

                                                  #7794
                                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                                  Ah 2021, big difference.

                                                  Anyway, I still wanna know how many that got infected had been vaccinated within the prior 2 months. Two different things. But of course, since nobody is vaccinated every two months, can't stop the spread.
                                                  But now you're saying vaxx was before 12/15/21 reopening. But I see that vaccines began en masse Feb. 15. We can't seem to agree on basic facts.
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                                                  • d2bets
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                    • 39995

                                                    #7795
                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                    Most people were recently vaxxed. We started mass vaccinations much later than you did as the govt stuffed up the ordering, so most people were done in a 3 to 5 month window prior to Dec 15. I'd guess at least half had first or second shot within 2 months of opening. Plus, our version of Fauci told the population it was to stop you clogging up hospitals and dieing, and people should continue to wear masks and social distance as the primary way to avoid it still. But I am not searching for more numbers.

                                                    How about you make some effort and find some plausible stats to support your theory that the vaccines prevent infections for 8 weeks after they are administered. I think I gave you plenty and all I get back is 2020 v 2021 typo is super important.
                                                    Unfortunately, I'm not sure that granularity of data is available. Love to see it if it is.
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                                                    • KnuckleHeadz
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 12-11-19
                                                      • 8194

                                                      #7796
                                                      RIP DJ Twitch…
                                                      Considering the circle he hung around it’s safe to say he had the shot and all the boosters…
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                                                      • d2bets
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                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 39995

                                                        #7797
                                                        Originally posted by KnuckleHeadz
                                                        RIP DJ Twitch…
                                                        Considering the circle he hung around it’s safe to say he had the shot and all the boosters…
                                                        ...which caused him to commit suicide? Is that what you're implying?
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                                                        • goduke
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-17-10
                                                          • 11580

                                                          #7798
                                                          Originally posted by d2bets
                                                          ...which caused him to commit suicide? Is that what you're implying?
                                                          You didn’t get the memo in this thread. If you got vaccinated then if you die even if self inflicted it’s because you got the vaccine.
                                                          Now what should be stated is these people in this thread that say that are the same people that were critical saying that people that died of covid was a fallacy and it was because they were fat, old, etc. and not covid.
                                                          It’s funny how the argument changes based on their political view
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                                                          • Demonata
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                                                            • 07-12-11
                                                            • 25829

                                                            #7799
                                                            It's funny how hospitals are not required to report someone that's vaccinated dying from COVID. Only if you are unvaccinated.
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                                                            • Optional
                                                              Administrator
                                                              • 06-10-10
                                                              • 61356

                                                              #7800
                                                              Originally posted by d2bets
                                                              But now you're saying vaxx was before 12/15/21 reopening. But I see that vaccines began en masse Feb. 15. We can't seem to agree on basic facts.
                                                              Righty-o pedant

                                                              Talk about clutching at straws to disagree. 90% of vaxing happened in the 4 or 5 months leading up to the opening. Whats so tough to understand...
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                                                              • DwightShrute
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-17-09
                                                                • 103077

                                                                #7801
                                                                <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This was an FDA failure to give them 2 years to run a study that takes 2 weeks<br><br>They don&#39;t care about real safety signals <a href="https://t.co/Oc3kuSj7nc">https://t.co/Oc3kuSj7nc</a></p>&mdash; Vinay Prasad MD MPH (@VPrasadMDMPH) <a href="https://twitter.com/VPrasadMDMPH/status/1603194966540398593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                                                • DwightShrute
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-17-09
                                                                  • 103077

                                                                  #7802
                                                                  <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The GOP for the first time is saying that our intelligence agencies are still lying to us: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheGreatAmericaShow?src=hash&amp;ref_src =twsrc%5Etfw">#TheGreatAmericaShow</a><br>COVID origins &#39;may have been tied&#39; to China&#39;s bioweapons program: GOP report <a href="https://t.co/wPvM25e3vN">https://t.co/wPvM25e3vN</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FoxNews?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw ">#FoxNews</a></p>&mdash; Lou Dobbs (@LouDobbs) <a href="https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1603223274355310592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                                                  • b1slickguy
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-24-11
                                                                    • 11959

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                                                                    • Kermit
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                                                                      • 09-27-10
                                                                      • 32555

                                                                      #7804
                                                                      Oof.

                                                                      6 in 10 adults who died of Covid in August were vaccinated or boosted

                                                                      https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...ines-rcna57902
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                                                                      • d2bets
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                                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                                        • 39995

                                                                        #7805
                                                                        Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                        Oof.

                                                                        6 in 10 adults who died of Covid in August were vaccinated or boosted

                                                                        https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...ines-rcna57902
                                                                        Given that far more than 6 in 10 are vaccinated, this means that the unvaccinated are dying at a higher rate. Combine this with the fact that the most vulnerable to die are vaccinated, and you can see that the vaccine clearly reduces the mortality rate.
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