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  • Demonata
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    • 07-12-11
    • 25829

    #7736
    Originally posted by Optional
    I agree that numbers from anywhere are hard to accept on face value.

    I do think there is enough personally visible evidence to show that the vax did reduce death rates though. Especially when you live down here and can see the result of our "communist" govt strategy first hand.
    Evidence is censored so I believe nobody can say 100%. It's a money grab and way to control people etc imo. Just like what you are saying is your opinion.
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    • Demonata
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      • 07-12-11
      • 25829

      #7737
      Originally posted by Optional
      if you still believe Trump was wise to lie to the nation about covid potential, to avoid worrying people.

      then you should also empathize with vaccine advancers needing to get as many people as possible on board so it might work.
      So was it wise for Biden to say you can't get COVID if you are vaccinated? Oh I forgot Biden is allowed to lie you lefty loonies.
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      • Demonata
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        • 07-12-11
        • 25829

        #7738
        Originally posted by Optional
        if you still believe Trump was wise to lie to the nation about covid potential, to avoid worrying people.

        then you should also empathize with vaccine advancers needing to get as many people as possible on board so it might work.
        This was posted before.
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        • Optional
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          • 06-10-10
          • 61356

          #7739
          Originally posted by Demonata

          So was it wise for Biden to say you can't get COVID if you are vaccinated? Oh I forgot Biden is allowed to lie you lefty loonies.
          Not in my eyes. As I had been told for months before that the vax would reduce my chances of dying and lower the viral load to assist in reducing transmission but not prevent you getting it.

          Some "helpful" idiots could not help themselves to talk like Biden and the fruits of that stupidity last till today making people not trust.
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          • DwightShrute
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-17-09
            • 103077

            #7740
            Originally posted by Optional
            if you still believe Trump was wise to lie to the nation about covid potential, to avoid worrying people.

            then you should also empathize with vaccine advancers needing to get as many people as possible on board so it might work.
            No one knew much about covid back then. Pelosi was telling people to come to SF and visit Chinatown and the CDC were telling people its fine if they gather by the thousands during the height of the pandemic so long as it was for a good reason and systemic racism was that reason. So they did. So ya, I give Trump and most everyone a lot a leeway for what they said back then. Not asking people to panic isn't a bad idea. That's leadership.

            Also, if you are forced to inject something into your body which doesn't prevent you from getting or passing on Covid to someone else, then can you actually call it a vaccine to begin with? Even the guy who invented the nRNA said it doesn't work. But hey, empathize with the those who influenced government who intern silenced anyone who said otherwise and fire thousands of healthcare workers who refused the jab! Seems like a brilliant concept.
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            • Optional
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              • 06-10-10
              • 61356

              #7741
              Originally posted by DwightShrute

              No one knew much about covid back then.
              OK. So you are saying he did not lie like Fauci??

              Trump has said himself that he was not truthful about the danger to avoid creating panic.

              You eat up one lie and act like an outraged Karen unable to understand any reason for the other!



              I think both should be held to account if they intentionally lied and made it worse.
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              • Demonata
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                • 07-12-11
                • 25829

                #7742
                Originally posted by Optional
                OK. So you are saying he did not lie like Fauci??

                Trump has said himself that he was not truthful about the danger to avoid creating panic.

                You eat up one lie and act like an outraged Karen unable to understand any reason for the other!



                I think both should be held to account if they intentionally lied and made it worse.
                I think trying to force people to get a COVID shot should get fauci etc locked up. I like freedom not communism though.
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                • Demonata
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                  • 07-12-11
                  • 25829

                  #7743
                  The Karen's and Kevin's are the ones that think everyone should have to get a COVID shot.
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                  • DwightShrute
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-17-09
                    • 103077

                    #7744
                    Originally posted by Optional
                    OK. So you are saying he did not lie like Fauci??

                    Trump has said himself that he was not truthful about the danger to avoid creating panic.

                    You eat up one lie and act like an outraged Karen unable to understand any reason for the other!



                    I think both should be held to account if they intentionally lied and made it worse.
                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gov Ron Desantis and Elon Musk declare war on mRNA jab manufacturers ����<a href="https://twitter.com/RonDeSantisFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RonD eSantisFL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@elonmusk</a> <a href="https://t.co/drCb4Yaz4m">pic.twitter.com/drCb4Yaz4m</a></p>&mdash; James Freeman (@JamesfWells) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesfWells/status/1600526813045800960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 7, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                    • Optional
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                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61356

                      #7745
                      Here's a bone for you Dwight.

                      Remember I said I did not believe there was an unusual spike in death rates because the insurance industry would be all over it fast if true?

                      Story in today's Murdoch press;


                      Excess deaths in 2022 ‘incredibly high’ at 13 per cent

                      The Australian government should be urgently investigating the “incredibly high” 13 per cent excess death rate in 2022, the country’s peak actuarial body says.



                      You need to get past the headline and read down to the bottom to get a better idea of the real situation though.
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                      • DwightShrute
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-17-09
                        • 103077

                        #7746
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                        • b1slickguy
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-24-11
                          • 11959

                          #7747
                          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former senior advisor on drug safety at the FDA calls for the C19 vaccine product to be updated to reflect the lack of safety, efficacy and to add warnings for myocarditis.<br><br>&quot;I don&#39;t know how in good conscience we can still be giving these vaccines at this point&quot; <a href="https://t.co/BnwVvsyrbc">pic.twitter.com/BnwVvsyrbc</a></p>&mdash; New World Odor™ (@hugh_mankind) <a href="https://twitter.com/hugh_mankind/status/1600877700821880832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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                          • manny24
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-22-07
                            • 20046

                            #7748
                            Originally posted by Demonata
                            This was posted before.
                            evil no longer lurks in the shadows
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                            • milwaukee mike
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 08-22-07
                              • 26914

                              #7749
                              Originally posted by manny24
                              evil no longer lurks in the shadows
                              i'm guessing none of the 6 will be celebrating christmas either... 2 of them might fake it (biden/maddow)
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                              • b1slickguy
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-24-11
                                • 11959

                                #7750
                                <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Zealand takes custody of baby whose parents refused vaccinated blood <a href="https://t.co/PmNwjgw8yO">pic.twitter.com/PmNwjgw8yO</a></p>&mdash; Clown World ™ �� (@ClownWorld_) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/status/1601215296781504513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                • b1slickguy
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                                  • 11-24-11
                                  • 11959

                                  #7751
                                  <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The New Zealand government is trying to take custody of baby Will due to the fact his parents don’t want to use vaccinated blood during heart surgery… they’ve already found hundreds citizens with non-mRNA vaccinated blood. <a href="https://t.co/5aes3lxcTg">pic.twitter.com/5aes3lxcTg</a></p>&mdash; Pelham (@Resist_05) <a href="https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1599329055857586177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                  • DwightShrute
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-17-09
                                    • 103077

                                    #7752
                                    Originally posted by b1slickguy
                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Zealand takes custody of baby whose parents refused vaccinated blood <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/PmNwjgw8yO">pic.twitter.com/PmNwjgw8yO</a></p>&mdash; Clown World ™ �� (@ClownWorld_) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/ClownWorld_/status/1601215296781504513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                                    how do these cops sleep at night? Can't be easy.
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                                    • b1slickguy
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-24-11
                                      • 11959

                                      #7753
                                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                      how do these cops sleep at night? Can't be easy.
                                      These scumbags have no conscience.
                                      "I'm just doing my job"
                                      "I'm just following orders"

                                      "There is no law so obscene that the police would not be willing to enforce it, up to and including the mass execution of innocent children. Some are not merely willing but downright eager." ---Michael Malice
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                                      • milwaukee mike
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-22-07
                                        • 26914

                                        #7754
                                        i think new zealand and the usa are the only countries that can advertise pharmaceuticals

                                        as we saw with nonstop vaccine propaganda for 2 years and counting... big pharma #1 lobbyists in the usa by far

                                        if you have to spend billions of dollars promoting a product through overt and covert means, it probably isn't good... good products sell themselves through word of mouth
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                                        • milwaukee mike
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 08-22-07
                                          • 26914

                                          #7755
                                          more and more people dying suddenly or having medical problems

                                          bob rathbun (atlanta hawks announcer) has stroke on-air
                                          grant wahl (world cup journalist) dies suddenly at 48

                                          i'm sure all these heart problems will continue to be blamed on everything except that one thing
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                                          • DwightShrute
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-17-09
                                            • 103077

                                            #7756
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                                            • milwaukee mike
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 08-22-07
                                              • 26914

                                              #7757
                                              Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                              that's really how it should've been from day 1

                                              at least now some people can laugh about how stupid it is/was
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                                              • milwaukee mike
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 08-22-07
                                                • 26914

                                                #7758
                                                big day in the world of fake pandemics

                                                elon musk tweets that his pronouns are prosecute/fauci

                                                another virus "drill" happens targeting 2025... called catastrophic contagion/seers... to go along with the spars drills that targeted 2025... eerily similar to crimson contagion/event 201 that simulated a coronavirus right before covid, and weirdly had all the same players as actual covid! (gates/who/johns hopkins/etc)

                                                that would be like me and my neighbor simulating some naked guys jumping in a fountain, and then we jumped in a fountain naked, and said we had no foreknowledge of anything lol
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                                                • Optional
                                                  Administrator
                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                  • 61356

                                                  #7759
                                                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                  big day in the world of fake pandemics

                                                  elon musk tweets that his pronouns are prosecute/fauci

                                                  another virus "drill" happens targeting 2025... called catastrophic contagion/seers... to go along with the spars drills that targeted 2025... eerily similar to crimson contagion/event 201 that simulated a coronavirus right before covid, and weirdly had all the same players as actual covid! (gates/who/johns hopkins/etc)

                                                  that would be like me and my neighbor simulating some naked guys jumping in a fountain, and then we jumped in a fountain naked, and said we had no foreknowledge of anything lol
                                                  Is this the suspicious event you are concerned about Mike? https://www.centerforhealthsecurity..../scenario.html

                                                  No wonder Alex Jones made so much money from the scared and mentally ill people out there. You just WANT so badly to believe you know everything is suspicious that you don't even look at the facts of what you say, just repeat whatever the fear porn mongers fed you unedited.
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                                                  • milwaukee mike
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-22-07
                                                    • 26914

                                                    #7760
                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                    Is this the suspicious event you are concerned about Mike? https://www.centerforhealthsecurity..../scenario.html

                                                    No wonder Alex Jones made so much money from the scared and mentally ill people out there. You just WANT so badly to believe you know everything is suspicious that you don't even look at the facts of what you say, just repeat whatever the fear porn mongers fed you unedited.
                                                    event 201? yes i watched the whole thing, did you? don't you find it weird that people that benefit from a pandemic ran a drill saying a coronavirus was going to go from animal to human? and that drill just happened to be a few months before covid?

                                                    your link is to event 201 which was in 2019, i am talking about the new 2022 drills catastrophic contagion and seers by the way. maybe catch up a bit!

                                                    i don't want to believe anything... and the fear porn mongers were the ones telling us to hide under the bed, wear a mask, take vaccines... i didn't do any of those things. in 2020 i played over 100 rounds of golf all over the country... what were you doing in 2020 while i apparently was so scared!
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                                                    • milwaukee mike
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                                                      • 08-22-07
                                                      • 26914

                                                      #7761
                                                      how can anyone that has been wrong through the whole scamdemic still keep arguing and think they are right about anything? us "conspiracy theorists" have been right about everything, here's a short list

                                                      -it won't be just 1 or 2 vaccines, they are gonna want endless streams
                                                      -vaccine passports will be pushed
                                                      -mandatory jabs for work or travel will be pushed
                                                      -covid escaped from lab, not from some bat at a wet market
                                                      -masks don't work and cause physical/emotional damage, especially to children
                                                      -standing 6 feet apart is downright ridiculous
                                                      -hcq/ivermectin have positive benefits
                                                      -vaccines don't stop transmission and have dangerous side effects

                                                      pretty much every single thing on that list is now admitted to by the same people that lied about those things for years
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                                                      • milwaukee mike
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                                                        • 08-22-07
                                                        • 26914

                                                        #7762
                                                        and one last post today before i go out... people should be THANKING the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers

                                                        without people like me, who fought back against mandates through our words and actions, you would still be wearing a mask

                                                        and without a control group of COURAGEOUS people that resisted taking fake vaccines, even in the face of the biggest propaganda campaign in world history, and enormous social pressure, you would be on jab #8 by now just to keep your job or go out in public

                                                        but of course nobody that was a scared covidiot will ever admit they were wrong or apologize for wishing people death, jail time, fines, and being locked in their own homes just for refusing masks/vaccines
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                                                        • goduke
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-17-10
                                                          • 11580

                                                          #7763
                                                          Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                          and one last post today before i go out... people should be THANKING the anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers

                                                          without people like me, who fought back against mandates through our words and actions, you would still be wearing a mask

                                                          and without a control group of COURAGEOUS people that resisted taking fake vaccines, even in the face of the biggest propaganda campaign in world history, and enormous social pressure, you would be on jab #8 by now just to keep your job or go out in public

                                                          but of course nobody that was a scared covidiot will ever admit they were wrong or apologize for wishing people death, jail time, fines, and being locked in their own homes just for refusing masks/vaccines
                                                          Imagine thinking that stopping having to put over a cloth over your face in the US is some sort of heroic battle you fought. Why don’t you go to Arab countries and try to fight that right for women and see where it gets you?
                                                          If only you could use your “heroic nature” for something that matters. Can you make it so I don’t have to wear a shirt or shoes in the grocery store too?
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                                                          • Optional
                                                            Administrator
                                                            • 06-10-10
                                                            • 61356

                                                            #7764
                                                            Originally posted by milwaukee mike

                                                            event 201? yes i watched the whole thing, did you? don't you find it weird that people that benefit from a pandemic ran a drill saying a coronavirus was going to go from animal to human? and that drill just happened to be a few months before covid?

                                                            your link is to event 201 which was in 2019, i am talking about the new 2022 drills catastrophic contagion and seers by the way. maybe catch up a bit!

                                                            i don't want to believe anything... and the fear porn mongers were the ones telling us to hide under the bed, wear a mask, take vaccines... i didn't do any of those things. in 2020 i played over 100 rounds of golf all over the country... what were you doing in 2020 while i apparently was so scared!
                                                            Not at all, when the same virus family had crossed from animal to human several times already.

                                                            Despite bird flu, swine flu, SARS etc did you hear of our governments making any plans to address the next one?

                                                            And you hate on the very people who donated or spent their own money and time to warn us and make plans to beat the next big outbreak?

                                                            And for some twisted political reason you want to see only conspiracy to deceive and vilify them as you say they benefit from that.

                                                            Hey, you could be right. The hundreds of people at that conference might have been all about murdering you and making millions off it. But they also might have been addressing the obvious problems the world was having with these crossover viruses in recent decades.

                                                            Do you think there is any chance of that option 2 being true Mike?
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                                                            • milwaukee mike
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                                                              • 08-22-07
                                                              • 26914

                                                              #7765
                                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                                              Not at all, when the same virus family had crossed from animal to human several times already.

                                                              Despite bird flu, swine flu, SARS etc did you hear of our governments making any plans to address the next one?

                                                              And you hate on the very people who donated or spent their own money and time to warn us and make plans to beat the next big outbreak?

                                                              And for some twisted political reason you want to see only conspiracy to deceive and vilify them as you say they benefit from that.

                                                              Hey, you could be right. The hundreds of people at that conference might have been all about murdering you and making millions off it. But they also might have been addressing the obvious problems the world was having with these crossover viruses in recent decades.

                                                              Do you think there is any chance of that option 2 being true Mike?
                                                              there's a chance of anything, of course, i've always said that

                                                              yes i hate on bill gates and the world economic forum, because they openly run these drills... and then celebrate when societies get locked down... world economic forum even tweets crap like "jesus is fake news", wants depopulation (like gates) and has meetings where they wonder what to do about all the useless humans. so why would people that want less people in the world, do things to save billions of lives? could definitely be true but makes no logical sense

                                                              do YOU think there is any chance that people lied in order to make millions, and in many cases, billions of dollars? heck, i know people that would lie for $50
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                                                              • milwaukee mike
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 08-22-07
                                                                • 26914

                                                                #7766
                                                                Originally posted by goduke
                                                                Imagine thinking that stopping having to put over a cloth over your face in the US is some sort of heroic battle you fought. Why don’t you go to Arab countries and try to fight that right for women and see where it gets you?
                                                                If only you could use your “heroic nature” for something that matters. Can you make it so I don’t have to wear a shirt or shoes in the grocery store too?
                                                                well i fund 6 people living with me, does that count? donate a lot of time and money, does that count? maybe i should be more of a braggart to make you happy, would you like a list so we can compare? pretty sure i've donated more than your entire lifetime earnings so maybe i win! oh boy i win a goduke stamp of approval! please please please that's all i ever wanted was your approval!

                                                                just on this forum today i gave someone (and his buddy) $2000 worth of free info on barstool promo, does that count?
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                                                                • Demonata
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 07-12-11
                                                                  • 25829

                                                                  #7767
                                                                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                  well i fund 6 people living with me, does that count? donate a lot of time and money, does that count? maybe i should be more of a braggart to make you happy, would you like a list so we can compare? pretty sure i've donated more than your entire lifetime earnings so maybe i win! oh boy i win a goduke stamp of approval! please please please that's all i ever wanted was your approval!

                                                                  just on this forum today i gave someone (and his buddy) $2000 worth of free info on barstool promo, does that count?
                                                                  Don't even try with goduke. He loves COVID and masks.
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                                                                  • milwaukee mike
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                                                                    • 08-22-07
                                                                    • 26914

                                                                    #7768
                                                                    Originally posted by Demonata
                                                                    Don't even try with goduke. He loves COVID and masks.
                                                                    i don't get it, people still believe the liars even after they admit they lied

                                                                    dr birx flat out said that she knew vaccines wouldn't do anything to stop infections or transmission ... these weren't honest mistakes by someone trying to help, these were LIES by people who ended up hurting millions of people, businesses, schools, and churches... next step "climate lockdowns" (which are already happening in some areas) or other nonsense
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                                                                    • milwaukee mike
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                                                                      • 08-22-07
                                                                      • 26914

                                                                      #7769
                                                                      80% of democrats still think the vaccines are effective at PREVENTING INFECTION, even though it's been proven time and time again that they don't

                                                                      easier to trick someone than convince them they've been tricked

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                                                                      • d2bets
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                                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                                        • 39995

                                                                        #7770
                                                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                        80% of democrats still think the vaccines are effective at PREVENTING INFECTION, even though it's been proven time and time again that they don't

                                                                        easier to trick someone than convince them they've been tricked

                                                                        It is effective at preventing infection, but only for a short period of time ~ 2-3 months.

                                                                        I don't know anyone who acquired covid within a couple months of either vaccination or prior infection. And yes, I ask.

                                                                        This is why I'm timing my booster for my next vacation.

                                                                        You can make a value judgment as to how useful a vaccine is that only helps for 2 months, but it does do that.
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