[Sam Odom]

patty used the stevie wonder shuffling method

[raydog]

tt , how can you verify a legit 52 card deck over a web cam ?

Surely Patty did not layout the cards suited face-up before every shuffle/deal

a 3rd party always dealt on cam, from what i recall... bobby loves action and would beg for someone to play bj with...no different than the casino, but they really should have alternated dealing or something... fwiw, i have no angst towards patty or zeta for gambling dealings with bobby... bobby knew what he was getting into and patty had money at the times they played bj... there was no free rolling that i was aware of... i would never give him an acct. but i dont hate on guys who he gambled with... i gamble all the time with golfing buddies that i know cant beat me...dont feel bad about it at all... they shouldnt either, imo ... win some, lose some...

you want to start holding the hand of every losing gambler around...youre gonna need a lot of fukkin hands

[frizzelli]

a 3rd party always dealt on cam, from what i recall... bobby loves action and would beg for someone to play bj with...no different than the casino, but they really should have alternated dealing or something... fwiw, i have no angst towards patty or zeta for gambling dealings with bobby... bobby knew what he was getting into and patty had money at the times they played bj... there was no free rolling that i was aware of... i would never give him an acct. but i dont hate on guys who he gambled with... i gamble all the time with golfing buddies that i know cant beat me...dont feel bad about it at all... they shouldnt either, imo ... win some, lose some...

you want to start holding the hand of every losing gambler around...youre gonna need a lot of fukkin hands

The 45 year old stalker clown tells it how its is

[spankie]

a 3rd party always dealt on cam, from what i recall... bobby loves action and would beg for someone to play bj with...no different than the casino, but they really should have alternated dealing or something... fwiw, i have no angst towards patty or zeta for gambling dealings with bobby... bobby knew what he was getting into and patty had money at the times they played bj... there was no free rolling that i was aware of... i would never give him an acct. but i dont hate on guys who he gambled with... i gamble all the time with golfing buddies that i know cant beat me...dont feel bad about it at all... they shouldnt either, imo ... win some, lose some...

you want to start holding the hand of every losing gambler around...youre gonna need a lot of fukkin hands

a 3rd party DID NOT deal.

that happened like 1 time.

the rest was patty dealing.

also. patty was controlling the min/max wagers in his favor.

if bobby was down 60 bucks, patty would not let him wager 60 bucks on the next hand.

it was all in favor of patty.

[frizzelli]

a 3rd party DID NOT deal.

that happened like 1 time.

the rest was patty dealing.

also. patty was controlling the min/max wagers in his favor.

if bobby was down 60 bucks, patty would not let him wager 60 bucks on the next hand.

it was all in favor of patty.

Patty is a piece of shit, I know the Farmer wants to fuk Patty but Patty should be knocked the fuk out for his actions.

[spankie]

Patty is a piece of shit, I know the Farmer wants to fuk Patty but Patty should be knocked the fuk out for his actions.

bobby would wager $5 or $10 at a time, even $20, but when he was down $ patty would limit him to specific wager amounts to protect the "house money" and prevent bobby from getting back to an even balance.

i'd say thats pretty fraudy.

[Brock Landers]

i saw Bobby got what he deserved

he put the money out there, he knew what he was getting into

fuk em

[raydog]

i thought they had a max wager..$10 or $20 that was designated...and yeah, i only saw ryanleaf dealing the cards...never saw patty dealing...fwiw, patty did bobby a favor by limiting his betting amounts ...the guy aint stupid, he gets bobby down $500 or something, he wasnt getting paid...

i guess im the wrong person to discuss this with though...i am a bit biased ... i got a buddy who is craving some gambling action, i will oblige... you guys call it being a shitty friend, i see it differently... just because the odds werent in his favor, he made plenty of +ev bets with zeta...he didnt have to lose.

[hawley]

bobby would wager $5 or $10 at a time, even $20, but when he was down $ patty would limit him to specific wager amounts to protect the "house money" and prevent bobby from getting back to an even balance.

i'd say thats pretty fraudy.

Lets see them defend this one.

All about the $$$$ will have no problem with it.

[allabout the $$$]

Lets see them defend this one.

All about the $$$$ will have no problem with it.

think again hawley. i said yesterday i dont know what the deal is with the blackjack if thats what went down then that is pretty fukked up. i dont have an issue with them taking his $25 or $50 sports bets

[hawley]

think again hawley. i said yesterday i dont know what the deal is with the blackjack if thats what went down then that is pretty fukked up. i dont have an issue with them taking his $25 or $50 sports bets

Thought I would get a better response from you...just playing anyway.

We see the situation differently which is fine. I don't think real friends would continue to take action from someone who is flat broke.

[frizzelli]

Thought I would get a better response from you...just playing anyway.

We see the situation differently which is fine. I don't think real friends would continue to take action from someone who is flat broke.

Patricia Van Dildo has no problem taking anyone's cash the guy is a flat out broke dyck fuk who only cares about himself.

[betplom]

Patricia Van Dildo has no problem taking anyone's cash the guy is a flat out broke dyck fuk who only cares about himself.

Plus he is good-looking and not interested in sex with other people, that makes him more than a little weird.

[allabout the $$$]

Thought I would get a better response from you...just playing anyway.

We see the situation differently which is fine. I don't think real friends would continue to take action from someone who is flat broke.

all good brother

my attitude is this- if bobby wanted to bet he would have found a way to bet. if he were my friend i can limit his action and look out for him. ex if he wanted to bet 50 or 100 i would say i have most of my action tied up in my account all i can place for you is 25. where as if he found someone else to put bets in they wouldnt look out for him they would take as much as they could knowing he is a good kid and would square his debt away over time

[ZetaPsi808]

i never dealt blackjack. i did play against bobby tho. bobby and i would alternate dealer and player roles every hand which eliminated the house edge

we had patty and occasionally leafy shuffle and deal for us on webcam.

all 4 of us are friends on sbr so i never suspected there was any foul play such as fixing cards or cheating

[RogueScholar]

Ray's right, this whole situation comes down to a simple question: Do you take money from a friend with a gambling addiction?

Personally, I wouldn't. If a person is so addicted to something that they spend every cent they make to acquire it and then go into debt to acquire more, that's when they most need their friends to refuse to enable them. End of story.

This all wouldn't have been so ugly if Patty and Zeta hadn't been giving Bobby all the attention and friendship he craved in order to get a crack at his next paycheck. And now that Bobby's gone, they're nowhere to be seen. Judge for yourself...

[ZetaPsi808]

RS i have been on SBR no more or less since bobby left for vegas

[spankie]

patty did bobby a favor by limiting his betting amounts ...the guy aint stupid, he gets bobby down $500 or something, he wasnt getting paid...
.

good point raymond.

[hawley]

Would Patty ever turn up to a bash?

I would love to beat his ass.

Guy would probably let me do it for a few $$$ too.

[allabout the $$$]

Would Patty ever turn up to a bash?

I would love to beat his ass.

Guy would probably let me do it for a few $$$ too.

[konck]

I saw Bobby tonight at the Vegas Club sportsbook....Geez he looked bad
His clothes were wrinkled an dirty he smelled like an old man. I met him once at
the bash so I went up an asked how is the job at the Nugget. He said fuk work
I aint here to work. He told me the thing in vegas is to make money anyway you
can then go all in an keep doing it until you are out!
I hung around for a while I saw Bobby talking to a fat church like guy they went into
the mens room for like 15 minutes Bobby came out and went right to the book an bet'
a 150 dollar 6 teamer and ask for a comp to get the 1.50 shrimp cup....they said no.
Oh well I know he had Velander so things are back to the way they were. He is looking for
next bet as we speak

[LVHerbie]

bobby would wager $5 or $10 at a time, even $20, but when he was down $ patty would limit him to specific wager amounts to protect the "house money" and prevent bobby from getting back to an even balance.

i'd say thats pretty fraudy.

Making someone bet small at any point, when the house has a +EV bet, isn't an advantage for the house. While Shady Patty also might not have been bright enough to understand this (or lacked the bankroll or perhaps even the willingness/ability to pay if he got behind) this doesn't change the mathematics of the situation.

i never dealt blackjack. i did play against bobby tho. bobby and i would alternate dealer and player roles every hand which eliminated the house edge

we had patty and occasionally leafy shuffle and deal for us on webcam.

all 4 of us are friends on sbr so i never suspected there was any foul play such as fixing cards or cheating

I would be real surprised if you didn't still have (and knew you had) an advantage over Bobby even without the "the house edge" of being dealer every hand.

Personally while I don't fault for gambling with him, as (unlike those making bogus claims they are some moral crusade for all for Bobby's benefit by exposing all this) I'll admit I probably would have also placed bets for Bobby or played cards with him since if you didn't (as is clear by him still continuing to gamble) he would have just got action somewhere else, it is still kindof disingenuous for you to ignore the distinction.

[spankie]

(unlike those making bogus claims they are some moral crusade for all for Bobby's benefit by exposing all this)

We get it fat ass.

LVHerbie does NOT approve of the way this entire thing has been handled.

He is the Superman of the internets.



You would have called Jeff VanVonderen and made it all better, right?

[Chi_archie]

RS i have been on SBR no more or less since bobby left for vegas

seems like you've been around a bit less..... but maybe not, there are sure are a few that seem to be posting WAY MORE now, and mostly about this drama......

[birdmanweezy]

patty and zeta were in sbr chat the other day thinking of ways to scam bobby, ill take screenshots next time i spy

[ZetaPsi808]

patty and zeta were in sbr chat the other day thinking of ways to scam bobby, ill take screenshots next time i spy

bullshit. patty has not been in sbrchat in months.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sbr-points...edge-fund.html

[raydog]

bobby would wager $5 or $10 at a time, even $20, but when he was down $ patty would limit him to specific wager amounts to protect the "house money" and prevent bobby from getting back to an even balance.

i'd say thats pretty fraudy.

yeah i missed this part...if i were down money and patty or anyone else told me i had some made up new limit on my bet that wasnt specified beforehand, i would kindly tell them to go fukk themselves and they wouldnt sniff getting a penny of what i was down... this is the first i have heard of this...definitely whoreshit move from patty

pete, the reason why bobby had little money is because of those totally non gambling related issues(the ones we hope he learned a good lesson from, even though he got his money back)...you know this... bobby likes to gamble, its one of the few things he really seems to enjoy and get into... do i consider him a gambling addict? nowhere near it... i have seen a lot of addicts... bobby can take it or leave it a lot of days, rarely makes more than a few bets a day and when he goes to the casino, he sets a limit and sticks to it...addicts dont do any of these... there are so many guys here in much worse situations that continue to go in debt...

in all honesty, i believe the biggest point that has gotten across to bobby in these threads, is that the majority of people here think he is half retarded and flat out dumb... i feel bad for him having to read all the posts from people who are lifetime losers in their own right... thats all he sees is how shitty people think of him...it aint right...he is a good kid and i dont blame him for keeping distance away from this place...entirely too many posts from guys who dont have it near as good as bobby and are throwing big rocks inside the glass house...

[LVHerbie]

We get it fat ass.

LVHerbie does NOT approve of the way this entire thing has been handled.

He is the Superman of the internets.



You would have called Jeff VanVonderen and made it all better, right?

Is this about the tenth personal attack when I have questioned your actions? Guess your narcissistic view of yourself and your continuing role in the whole situation prevents much else...

[Br0nxer]

Would Patty ever turn up to a bash?

I would love to beat his ass.

Guy would probably let me do it for a few $$$ too.

[spankie]

Is this about the tenth personal attack when I have questioned your actions? Guess your narcissistic view of yourself and your continuing role in the whole situation prevents much else...

You are a jackass.

[LVHerbie]

You are a jackass.

Never disappoint... I hope you sleep well tonight...

[paranoyd androyd]

Early consensus is that Patty must die and Zeta's barely hanging on for dear life.

[ZetaPsi808]

cool story bro ^^^

[spankie]

Never disappoint... I hope you sleep well tonight...

You're so quick to point fingers yet you haven't done shit but point fingers.

Just another lonely fat assclown brokedick loser with no life who likes to make shit more dramatic.

[paranoyd androyd]

cool story bro ^^^

Lynch mob mentality is growing fast around here, shit's about to get real.