[sharpcat]

Going by your logic here, Trayvon was using the same exact law that you claim Zimmerman was... the right to defend yourself rather than having to flee. Why should Trayvon have had to flee to the house from the man pursuing him? Why wouldn't he have the right to defend himself if he felt threatened by the man with the gun??

Obviously this is all speculation because we weren't there, but I don't see any reason for you to say Trayvon was the aggressor/the one who was in the wrong

Stand Your Ground

Florida

2011 Florida Statutes CHAPTER 776 JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE^[20]
776.012 Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:

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[sharpcat]

776.08 Forcible felony.—“Forcible felony” means treason; murder; manslaughter; sexual battery; carjacking; home-invasion robbery; robbery; burglary; arson; kidnapping; aggravated assault; aggravated battery; aggravated stalking; aircraft piracy; unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb; and any other felony which involves the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual.



Aggravated stalking in when the stalker just doesn't follow the person everywhere, but when they threaten their victim with threats such as they will do bodily harm to the victim or bodily harm to their family or any friends or female/male counterparts they may be seeing at the time. If the stalker pushes, shoves the victim or tries to enter their home to harm them.

Trayvon had no rights to "stand his ground" following somebody 1 time for a short period of time does not qualify as neither "stalking" or "aggravated stalking" he had opprotunity to avoid conflict and flee 70 yards to his fathers home.

Zimmerman had right to "stand his ground" as he was assaulted.

[sharpcat]

The Lynch Mob has gotten their way and prosecution has decided that taking a trial to court that they have no chance of winning will ultimately be less costly than the racist rioting that will take place if they do not.


I suspect Zimmerman will be charged with the lowest level crime he can be charged with "Involuntary Manslaughter" and he will not be required to serve any jail time until his trial.

Zimmermans defense will prove his innocence under the SYG law under a jury comprised of all white males who are all fed up with the racist black mob and he will be acquitted of the charges.

[rsnnh12]

Did you miss the part of the law about the threat being imminent? A guy following someone while carrying a loaded gun certainly qualifies as an imminent threat, no?? If you're walking back to your house from the corner store late at night, and a dude with a gun starts following you, you would be absolutely retarded to think there wasn't an imminent threat to your safety. Trayvon had every right to stand his ground and not run because he felt his life was in danger, which is the exact friggin point of the Stand Your Ground law

[itchypickle]

Did you miss the part of the law about the threat being imminent? A guy following someone while carrying a loaded gun certainly qualifies as an imminent threat, no?? If you're walking back to your house from the corner store late at night, and a dude with a gun starts following you, you would be absolutely retarded to think there wasn't an imminent threat to your safety. Trayvon had every right to stand his ground and not run because he felt his life was in danger, which is the exact friggin point of the Stand Your Ground law

Trayvon didn't know he had the gun until the altercation started...or else he would have told his girlfriend "there is a dude with a gun..." instead of just "there is a guy following me" And it's up in the air, if you listen to the 911 tape in its entirety, how/when the fight started since a minute and a half after he was told they didn't need him to follow trayvon...he was still on the call..standing stationary and saying he would go meet police by the mailboxes....he wasn't running through the bushes gun drawn and firing or anything else.

[sharpcat]

Did you miss the part of the law about the threat being imminent? A guy following someone while carrying a loaded gun certainly qualifies as an imminent threat, no?? If you're walking back to your house from the corner store late at night, and a dude with a gun starts following you, you would be absolutely retarded to think there wasn't an imminent threat to your safety. Trayvon had every right to stand his ground and not run because he felt his life was in danger, which is the exact friggin point of the Stand Your Ground law

This is a retarded response.

Do you know anything about Florida gun laws?
Florida is a state which allows citizens without criminal histories to obtain a concealed carry permit.

Zimmerman had a concealed carry permit and so do hundreds of thousands of Florida citizens. You make it sound as if Zimmerman was following him around with his gun drawn, the truth is that there was no way for Trayvon to know that Zimmerman was carrying because his weapon was concealed.



***Concealed means that the weapon can be holstered underneath of clothing where it can not be seen, in case you missed that part.

[GUMMO77]

This is a retarded response.

Do you know anything about Florida gun laws?
Florida is a state which allows citizens without criminal histories to obtain a concealed carry permit.

Zimmerman didn't have a criminal history?

[sharpcat]

Zimmerman didn't have a criminal history?

How did he possess a concealed carry permit if he had a criminal history?

Just in case you are not aware in order to be a convicted criminal you need to be found guilty in a court of law.

[GUMMO77]

Wish my daddy was a judge to make all my legal troubles go away.

[sharpcat]

Wish my daddy was a judge to make all my legal troubles go away.

So now that you can not contest that Zimmerman did not have a criminal record you resort to an unprovable assumption that his daddy is the reason he has no criminal record????

So this means that we can make the assumption that because Trayvon was found with a bag full of womens jewelry and a screwdriver that he was a burglar?

LEO's write tickets for assault on officers all the time and prosecutors very rarely pursue charges. I have a friend who tripped and fell into an officer while he was drunk and performing an alcohol test and the officer charged him with assault, obviously the prosecutor dismissed the charge because it was ridiculous.

Your nonsense of claiming that he has a criminal history despite the fact of never being convicted is reason why prosecutors should/can not charge someone with a crime without solid evidence to suggest a crime was committed. Narrow minded idiots who do not understand the law make ASSumptions that just because someone was charged with a crime means he is guilty.

[5mike5]

Zimmerman IS in custody now in Florida

[brooks85]

funny watching sharpcat not know what he is talking about


this is the guy who disagrees with 2 professionals, one of which was at for 28 years i think it was, and says the audio test are flawed even though they are used in other countries.

[brooks85]

The Lynch Mob has gotten their way and prosecution has decided that taking a trial to court that they have no chance of winning will ultimately be less costly than the racist rioting that will take place if they do not.


I suspect Zimmerman will be charged with the lowest level crime he can be charged with "Involuntary Manslaughter" and he will not be required to serve any jail time until his trial.

Zimmermans defense will prove his innocence under the SYG law under a jury comprised of all white males who are all fed up with the racist black mob and he will be acquitted of the charges.

hey tells us something else you dont know about

[sharpcat]

funny watching sharpcat not know what he is talking about


this is the guy who disagrees with 2 professionals, one of which was at for 28 years i think it was, and says the audio test are flawed even though they are used in other countries.

Audio test

Ok so audio professionals say there is a 48% chance that the screams in the 911 call were Zimmerman and they would expect 90% or better to be confident that they were from Zimmerman. So how much until they can prove that the screams were not Zimmerman?

Basically the audio experts are saying "we can not prove that the screams from the 911 tape are from Zimmerman, but we can not prove that they are from not Zimmerman either." Should have just asked the weatherman what his prediction was

[itchypickle]

Zimmerman didn't have a criminal history?

Not all crimes mean revoking of firearm. Has to be either a violent crime or emotional issues.

I've heard the media mention his "history of domestic violence" but in reality the paperwork was shown and it was a form you fill out saying "my partner has been upset lately and I'm letting you know ahead of time in case they lash out against me" in which both he and his girlfriend at the time filled them out to one up each other. He was never charged with domestic assault/battery.

Regarding his 2005 arrest it was also not a violent or felonious crimes....so rights are safe.

[sharpcat]

Congrats to the lynch mob it is starting to look like taxpayers are going to be fronting the bill to cover Zimmerman's legal fees and probably also will be paying for a bodyguard and possibly money for him to live off of since he and his wife are unable to work due to all of the threats on his life.

Thank god for the Democrats willingness to give out money to those in need, glad to see someone who actually needs these types of benefits get the chance to use them.

Probably going to have to cut off Tyrone and a few others from the welfare system to cover Zimmerman.

[LostBankroll]

lolololololol Tyrone. wholetime..... it was trayvons gun but he wore gloves. zimmer busted his chin and traytray dropped the pistola. zimmie picked it up and shot the kid like a fish in a barre. sad case here in amerikahhh