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  • KVB
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    #36
    I think I see where you are coming from Jtoler with your story of cutting grass, but at what age does throwing rocks on the guy's roof from the hill become taking his wallet (or purse in the case of the lady) and senselessly blindsiding him.

    When the guy says that to you at the door, as mad as you may be, I can see you guys wanting to knock him out and can appreciated the restraint, no matter the age. But thievery?

    What's the constitution of the guy, whether he's black, white, yellow, red or purple, who decides thievery and assault are the answer?

    According to Kraken, that lady in the video as already guilty of wronging these two black guys because she has benefited from "white privilege" at some point in her life.

    But no matter the context or big or little picture, I am having a difficult time finding the guys, regardless of their living situation or anything, to be any sort of victim to this lady. If that is their purse, and she stole it first, then I can see what happened here.

    Sometimes, obviously not in this video, assault may be warranted, but thievery? Perhaps, somehow, this lady deserved to get knocked upside the head, shit we could probably all think of a reason, but to actually do it and then snatch the purse?

    It seems much more like a strong arm purse snatch to me.
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    • jtoler
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      #37
      Originally posted by Kermit
      For the black population %, the violent crime is WAY out of proportion when compared to anyone else.

      This IS the problem. If the crime were committed proportionately, then no one would complain. But it is waaay out of whack.
      Same baseless argument, just look at the effect and ignore the cause when the cause is involving people that look like you. But when an armed white cop kills an unarmed black male lets not only look at the effect lets look at what possible reason caused him to act like he did, cant have it both ways.
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      • Ted Sheckler
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        #38
        Originally posted by blackHIPPY
        Well, the hangings have

        Sorry, assumed 50 year olds weren't browsing gambling forums (and that's being generous saying lynchings were common in 65)
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        • jtoler
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          #39
          Originally posted by KVB
          I think I see where you are coming from Jtoler with your story of cutting grass, but at what age does throwing rocks on the guy's roof from the hill become taking his wallet (or purse in the case of the lady) and senselessly blindsiding him.

          When the guy says that to you at the door, as mad as you may be, I can see you guys wanting to knock him out and can appreciated the restraint, no matter the age. But thievery?

          What's the constitution of the guy, whether he's black, white, yellow, red or purple, who decides thievery and assault are the answer?

          According to Kraken, that lady in the video as already guilty of wronging these two black guys because she has benefited from "white privilege" at some point in her life.

          But no matter the context or big or little picture, I am having a difficult time finding the guys, regardless of their living situation or anything, to be any sort of victim to this lady. If that is their purse, and she stole it first, then I can see what happened here.

          Sometimes, obviously not in this video, assault may be warranted, but thievery? Perhaps, somehow, this lady deserved to get knocked upside the head, shit we could probably all think of a reason, but to actually do it and then snatch the purse?

          It seems much more like a strong arm purse snatch to me.
          I didnt know they possibly robbed her, is that the story? I havent looked into it, did they rob her on the video? I didnt see that, if they did that was pretty slick, I cant tell.
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          • blackHIPPY
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            #40
            Originally posted by jtoler
            Same baseless argument, just look at the effect and ignore the cause when the cause is involving people that look like you. But when an armed white cop kills an unarmed black male lets not only look at the effect lets look at what possible reason caused him to act like he did, cant have it both ways.
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            • Ted Sheckler
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              #41
              Originally posted by jtoler
              I didnt know they possibly robbed her, is that the story? I havent looked into it, did they rob her on the video? I didnt see that, if they did that was pretty slick, I cant tell.

              Soon as they walked in snatched her purse and guy with purse was 10 foot away and then one comes back and punches her in the head and then takes off.
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              • Plaza23
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                • 12-29-13
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                #42
                Originally posted by blackHIPPY
                Where will white ppl get their culture if they got rid of black ppl?
                Europe seems to do just fine with their culture and no blacks. So do Asian countries like Japan.

                This is another tangent but I always get a kick out of anti-gun Europeans talking about how their societies are safer than the U.S. because they have a gun ban. That's not true. Their societies are safer because they have less blacks.

                Look how safe Japan is? Highest population per square mile in the world. But no blacks. So it's safe.

                Imagine having a country the size of Japan, where people were living on top of each other but it was all blacks. Can you imagine the level of violence?

                I'm not sure why black culture is filled with violence and sex. But it's not seen only in the U.S. African countries are violent. African countries have way too high of birth rates to sustain themselves.

                Asians, Arabs, Caucasian (euro denominated people) may have problems but not to the degree that black people in the world do. I'm not sure what the solution is.
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                • jtoler
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by Ted Sheckler
                  Soon as they walked in snatched her purse and guy with purse was 10 foot away and then one comes back and punches her in the head and then takes off.
                  Ok I see now didnt notice the first one pulling the purse. Two no gooders committing a robbery, would serve time if I was the judge no doubt, Im guessing their defense if any will be perhaps something occurred on the outside, but that shouldnt matter. Any felonies before this they should be looking at years.
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                  • recon1
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by jtoler
                    If you read past the first line you would have seen that I said I dont condone this type of behavior, cant see how anybody can. With that said she probably did or said something foul to them outside of the church, they could have taken her purse or robbed her, they didnt, went straight for the noggin, just leads me to believe something went on outside of the church, some kind of interaction which upset them, not condoning just perhaps supplying a possible reason for what they did.
                    No Sir, you injected that somehow if the lady said x,y or z then the thugs did what they did for that reason, in essence introducing a backdoor excuse. No excuse(s) period.
                    Blacks are so thinned skin when it comes to words, this shows mental illness.
                    Had a lady psychologist teach a class to me and some coworkers. She taught us that signs of mental illness are as slight as a person loosing control over words, looking or starring at someone, pointing at them or laughing at them.
                    You can find video online where people go to the "hood" and do these things and see the reactions, pure mental illness. These tools go off and the prankster gets the results they want. They tried something in an oriental and white area and got no reactions. so, they headed to the "Hood" to mess with the patients in that area.
                    It's so easy to set-up a puppet black.
                    Had a friend in high school who figured this tactic out, he was an all state wrestler and kick-boxer, if he encountered blacks who were thugs he'd simply call them "Niggers" and when they went for him he'd hurt them in BAD, BAD ways, looked like child abuse. Saw him do that twice. When cops came he would have witnesses say they saw the black guy attack and my buddy simply defended himself. One black guy told the cop, "He called me a ******" Cop, simply said: "If that's true, what has that gotten you now" the look on guys face was priceless, because that kid grew up being told if he was called any word that he didn't like he was to fight that person, especially if that person was not black.
                    Just like the inaniamte object called a 'Battle flag' stirring up emotions, this is the definition of mental illness, only exception is this illness isn't DNA, but learned behavior, but nonetheless mental.
                    You struck me as somebody who knew what was really happening in the world today, or at least had major clues, but you by the fact you even introduce the theory this old church lady may have made a remark to one of this thugs could have asked or at least lent to a justifiable reason she was attacked.
                    You can't figure out the powers that be are instigating racial tension? Black lives matter to these people only because black can be lead by emotion and they love this.
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                    • jtoler
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by recon1
                      No Sir, you injected that somehow if the lady said x,y or z then the thugs did what they did for that reason, in essence introducing a backdoor excuse. No excuse(s) period.
                      Blacks are so thinned skin when it comes to words, this shows mental illness.
                      Had a lady psychologist teach a class to me and some coworkers. She taught us that signs of mental illness are as slight as a person loosing control over words, looking or starring at someone, pointing at them or laughing at them.
                      You can find video online where people go to the "hood" and do these things and see the reactions, pure mental illness. These tools go off and the prankster gets the results they want. They tried something in an oriental and white area and got no reactions. so, they headed to the "Hood" to mess with the patients in that area.
                      It's so easy to set-up a puppet black.
                      Had a friend in high school who figured this tactic out, he was an all state wrestler and kick-boxer, if he encountered blacks who were thugs he'd simply call them "Niggers" and when they went for him he'd hurt them in BAD, BAD ways, looked like child abuse. Saw him do that twice. When cops came he would have witnesses say they saw the black guy attack and my buddy simply defended himself. One black guy told the cop, "He called me a ******" Cop, simply said: "If that's true, what has that gotten you now" the look on guys face was priceless, because that kid grew up being told if he was called any word that he didn't like he was to fight that person, especially if that person was not black.
                      Just like the inaniamte object called a 'Battle flag' stirring up emotions, this is the definition of mental illness, only exception is this illness isn't DNA, but learned behavior, but nonetheless mental.
                      You struck me as somebody who knew what was really happening in the world today, or at least had major clues, but you by the fact you even introduce the theory this old church lady may have made a remark to one of this thugs could have asked or at least lent to a justifiable reason she was attacked.
                      You can't figure out the powers that be are instigating racial tension? Black lives matter to these people only because black can be lead by emotion and they love this.
                      No I never said it was an excuse. I said perhaps what she did outside of the church was the reason they did what they did, huge difference IMO, Im in no way rationalizing the event trust me. I said something could have happened outside because I never noticed the purse snatching which absence of robbery was the entire reason I made the statement before I rewatched and noticed what actually occurred. What they did is repugnant and disgusting.
                      Last edited by jtoler; 08-20-15, 02:32 PM.
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                      • Plaza23
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by jtoler
                        Same baseless argument, just look at the effect and ignore the cause when the cause is involving people that look like you. But when an armed white cop kills an unarmed black male lets not only look at the effect lets look at what possible reason caused him to act like he did, cant have it both ways.
                        There are causes for black decay (73% born out of wedlock being #1). But that still does not explain a culture that glorifies violence, sex, and prison/thug life and promotes gang life.

                        There are more orphans in the Phillipines than anywhere else in the world. The Philippines are a 3rd world country. So you have extreme poverty, fatherless families, and yet still not the violence there as in the U.S. Black community.

                        There are no excuses for blacks in the United States. None. Not today. Gang Life replaced family life because Dad left the primary home. Dad left the primary home because government took his place to pay the bills.

                        I'm just wondering why these social safety nets did not have the same negative impacts on whites and Asians? Same benefits available to them from the government, and yet you don't see them having kids at 73% out of wedlock.
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                        • Ted Sheckler
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by jtoler
                          Ok I see now didnt notice the first one pulling the purse. Two no gooders committing a robbery, would serve time if I was the judge no doubt, Im guessing their defense if any will be perhaps something occurred on the outside, but that shouldnt matter. Any felonies before this they should be looking at years.

                          If they were walking down the street, I'd guess that the person said something (unless the knockout game was common in that area)

                          But they were probably sitting on a stoop across from the church and saw an elderly lady walk in and saw an easy snatch of her purse.

                          Same thing as if a white guy did it when you were walking down the street and saw a purse and someone by themselves. White lady probably didn't say "get away from me you bum" Lady probably never saw him coming and he got a purse without any hassle.

                          Just another reason to not go to church I guess.
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                          • jtoler
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Ted Sheckler
                            If they were walking down the street, I'd guess that the person said something (unless the knockout game was common in that area)

                            But they were probably sitting on a stoop across from the church and saw an elderly lady walk in and saw an easy snatch of her purse.

                            Same thing as if a white guy did it when you were walking down the street and saw a purse and someone by themselves. White lady probably didn't say "get away from me you bum" Lady probably never saw him coming and he got a purse without any hassle.

                            Just another reason to not go to church I guess.
                            That could very well be how it happened, awful thing.
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                            • teaserpleaser
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                              #49
                              Is op the new "retard" or a ghost retard
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                              • Dan Kelly
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                                #50
                                I don't understand why Charlean didn't have an abortion when she found out she was pregnant with the future Wayman. Too bad that there is not a pro-abortion government agency that would entice and reward women who will bring bad people into the world. I am not talking race, plenty of women of every race are horrible mothers and they should not have children. It is the main reason why abortion has to stay legal and should be free and easy. Women don't have abortions for birth control reasons, they have them because they know they can not be good mothers. A woman should be able to get counseling to help her understand that if she will be a bad mother then the the world is a worse place. And if a future bad mother insists on having her child, then that child should be monitored very closely. The technology exists to make all of this possible.
                                Also, this is a great example of why abortion must remain legal - think of how many more times a day this would happen now if the thousands of aborted unwanted children had come into the world in the past 40 years.

                                The only thing the world needs to be a much better place is for every child to have a good mother.

                                BOL
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                                • teaserpleaser
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                                  #51
                                  ^^^ gl with that there's way more shitty parents than good parents and it's only going to get worse ....yeah equality no more shaming woman now they think they can raise kids by themselves and I think we all know the odds increase that a boy raised by a single mother are at a higher risk for prison! drug use! violence etc etc
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                                  • JIBBBY
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                                    #52
                                    That pisses me off!! That could be your own grandma or mother....Errrrr!!!!

                                    Also race has nothing to do with it as I've seen white trailer trash selling meth to kids, Mexicans shoot innocent people in a drive bye just because, seen black thugs robbing and stealing while having no regard for human life.... Don't get mad at the race or color as that's just being ignorant.. God didn't make mistakes with coloring people differently...

                                    I get mad at the parents that neglected to raise their kids up the right way and keep tabs on them in cases like this..I think the parents of these young punks should be prosecuted (in some cases) as well as crazy as that sounds.. Make the parents accountable for once for their own children's actions.. Kids committing violent crimes like these are usually a reflection of how they were raised and or not cared for..
                                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 08-20-15, 03:09 PM.
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                                    • The Kraken
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                                      #53
                                      The pendulum is simply swinging back towards the middle

                                      It's been far enough on the white side, errrr I mean right side, for too long

                                      I don't condone the kid punching her but lets be honest, white cops do worst things to black youth on a daily basis. And it's been going on for over 100 years.

                                      So granny got a little bruise, she's gonna live, no felonies on her record for just being white.

                                      Lets not blow this out of proportion without being honest with ourselves that this goes both ways.
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                                      • hugh_jorgan
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by jtoler
                                        Seriously, I wonder if she did something to get them riled up. Like almost hit them with her car outside, she's old and more than likely a bad driver. She could have called them the n-word outside, could be anything, dont condone this behavior just saying.
                                        The blatant racism on this forum is appalling ... from a lot of people.
                                        Anyway, I can't tell if you are just stirring the pot with your comment, or you actually believe that.
                                        If it is the latter, you have some serious issues.
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                                        • hugh_jorgan
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by The Kraken
                                          The pendulum is simply swinging back towards the middle

                                          It's been far enough on the white side, errrr I mean right side, for too long

                                          I don't condone the kid punching her but lets be honest, white cops do worst things to black youth on a daily basis. And it's been going on for over 100 years.

                                          So granny got a little bruise, she's gonna live, no felonies on her record for just being white.

                                          Lets not blow this out of proportion without being honest with ourselves that this goes both ways.
                                          Kraken, you're better than that ...
                                          Two teenagers rob an old lady, and one of them sucker punches her in the side of the head ... and your contribution to the topic is this?!?!?!?!
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                                          • jtoler
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                            That pisses me off!! That could be your own grandma or mother....Errrrr!!!!

                                            Also race has nothing to do with it as I've seen white trailer trash selling meth to kids, Mexicans shoot innocent people in a drive bye just because, seen black thugs robbing and stealing while having no regard for human life.... Don't get mad at the race or color as that's just being ignorant.. God didn't make mistakes with coloring people differently...

                                            I get mad at the parents that neglected to raise their kids up the right way and keep tabs on them in cases like this..I think the parents of these young punks should be prosecuted in some cases as well as crazy as that sounds.. Make the parents accountable for once for their own children's actions.. Kids committing violent crimes like these are usually a reflection of how they were raised and or not cared for..
                                            Correct it has nothing to do with race rather economic levels for the most part. Have you ever seen well off blacks behaving like this? Can't say I have. Race is the trick that's used to dismiss hundreds of years and still current wrongdoings against a race. If roles were reversed white would be the new black.
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                                            • Plaza23
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                                              The pendulum is simply swinging back towards the middle

                                              It's been far enough on the white side, errrr I mean right side, for too long

                                              I don't condone the kid punching her but lets be honest, white cops do worst things to black youth on a daily basis. And it's been going on for over 100 years.

                                              So granny got a little bruise, she's gonna live, no felonies on her record for just being white.

                                              Lets not blow this out of proportion without being honest with ourselves that this goes both ways.
                                              Blacks make up 12.5% of the population and commit greater than 50% of the crime.

                                              I don't think white cops are beating the nigs bad enough. It hasn't curbed the crime rate. It's getting worse.

                                              I endorse police brutality. Beat these people till they get in line and stop breaking the law.
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                                              • Triple_D_Bet
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                The pendulum is simply swinging back towards the middle

                                                It's been far enough on the white side, errrr I mean right side, for too long

                                                I don't condone the kid punching her but lets be honest, white cops do worst things to black youth on a daily basis. And it's been going on for over 100 years.

                                                So granny got a little bruise, she's gonna live, no felonies on her record for just being white.

                                                Lets not blow this out of proportion without being honest with ourselves that this goes both ways.
                                                There's no excuse for this kinda crap; giving people a pass because someone's ancestors may have treated their ancestors unkindly is absurd.

                                                When you make excuses for people based solely on their race, there's a word for it: racism Not that there aren't some striking examples of it in this thread, but similar to the situation itself, you're not going to fix a wrong behavior by copying it.
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                                                • blackHIPPY
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                                                  #59
                                                  you guys downplay generations of slavery and say get over it
                                                  and then completely overblow a purse snatching literally calling for more police violence
                                                  lmao #SBR
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                                                  • Kermit
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by jtoler
                                                    Have you ever seen well off blacks behaving like this? .
                                                    No, I have not, but I also do not see poor white people attacking innocent people at the same rate that I see blacks doing it to whites.
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                                                    • blackHIPPY
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Plaza23
                                                      Blacks make up 12.5% of the population and commit greater than 50% of the crime.

                                                      I don't think white cops are beating the nigs bad enough. It hasn't curbed the crime rate. It's getting worse.

                                                      I endorse police brutality. Beat these people till they get in line and stop breaking the law.
                                                      losing gambler
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                                                      • Ted Sheckler
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Triple_D_Bet
                                                        There's no excuse for this kinda crap; giving people a pass because someone's ancestors may have treated their ancestors unkindly is absurd.

                                                        When you make excuses for people based solely on their race, there's a word for it: racism Not that there aren't some striking examples of it in this thread, but similar to the situation itself, you're not going to fix a wrong behavior by copying it.


                                                        Obvious trolling by Kraken, take it from another troller.
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                                                        • Triple_D_Bet
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Plaza23
                                                          Blacks make up 12.5% of the population and commit greater than 50% of the crime.

                                                          I don't think white cops are beating the nigs bad enough. It hasn't curbed the crime rate. It's getting worse.

                                                          I endorse police brutality. Beat these people till they get in line and stop breaking the law.
                                                          Excellent idea, except for that whole part where it won't work and probably makes the problem worse

                                                          So black people commit over 50% of crimes....did you know males commit over 90% of the homicides? Per your reasoning, sounds like before we start indiscriminately beating black people, we should tackle the larger issue and start indiscriminately beating all men until they stop breaking the law, right?
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                                                          • Kermit
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by jtoler
                                                            Same baseless argument, just look at the effect and ignore the cause when the cause is involving people that look like you. But when an armed white cop kills an unarmed black male lets not only look at the effect lets look at what possible reason caused him to act like he did, cant have it both ways.
                                                            Almost every situation with these "unarmed" black males involves some type of conflict. Maybe it's the attitude that is doing them in. How many videos have we seen where a cop stopped a black man and was polite as Hell with him and the black male lied, made excuses, tried to fight, resisted, etc... ?

                                                            So armed cops are only killing unarmed blacks? Never unarmed whites?

                                                            And I would assume that every black person that has been armed has always been killed right? Cops would never let them live, correct?

                                                            Too much picking and choosing what we want to believe.
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                                                            • jtoler
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by blackHIPPY
                                                              you guys downplay generations of slavery and say get over it
                                                              and then completely overblow a purse snatching literally calling for more police violence
                                                              lmao #SBR
                                                              Sociopaths do the same thing.
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                                                              • jtoler
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                No, I have not, but I also do not see poor white people attacking innocent people at the same rate that I see blacks doing it to whites.
                                                                How poor are we talking, are they rural or city.
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                                                                • jtoler
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Ted Sheckler
                                                                  Obvious trolling by Kraken, take it from another troller.
                                                                  He's not trolling.
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                                                                  • jtoler
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                    Almost every situation with these "unarmed" black males involves some type of conflict. Maybe it's the attitude that is doing them in. How many videos have we seen where a cop stopped a black man and was polite as Hell with him and the black male lied, made excuses, tried to fight, resisted, etc... ?

                                                                    So armed cops are only killing unarmed blacks? Never unarmed whites?

                                                                    And I would assume that every black person that has been armed has always been killed right? Cops would never let them live, correct?

                                                                    Too much picking and choosing what we want to believe.
                                                                    Just no.
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                                                                    • Triple_D_Bet
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                      He's not trolling.
                                                                      I'd like to think he's not either; he's shown some interest in exploring the matter in previous discussions, although he continued the exploration. Would rather he was trolling and knew better though
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                                                                      • Triple_D_Bet
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                        Sociopaths do the same thing.
                                                                        Slavery was bad; don't think anyone's debating that. However, if you're using bad stuff that happened to your ancestors as an excuse for bad behavior today, the fault lies with you, not the past...plain and simple. Everyone's ancestors had bad stuff happen to them; judge people by their actions, not their ancestors'. That's common sense, not sociopathy
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