[ttwarrior1]

with no bread, lost 5 pounds in 2 days

I bet half the forum confused on that one. Always knew it would work, and yes i will probaly eat a bag of donuts .

0 carb except for the lettuce and few slices of carrots in the salad. Failed the last 40 times, i will succeed this time.

Ive only eaten lunch and breaksfast a handful of times in the last 17 years. Not easy to eat when your not hungry and im only hungry once a day and thats between 11 pm and 2 am

Mom is very angry i snuck into the ground beef and she says its very expensive now. I told her off finally and said quit buying me ******* doritos and little debbie snack cakes. i don't want the shit, quit buying it bitch. ******* ho wants to keep me fat, ill show that bitch.
I'll buy my own meat, salads, tuna etc if i have too.

[GamblerSpirit]

You want a cookie, too, fatass?

[GamblerSpirit]

quit buying it bitch. ******* ho wants to keep me fat, ill show that bitch.
I'll buy my own meat, salads, tuna etc if i have too.

You're a loser, and most definitely a virgin.

[ttwarrior1]

is that the best you can come up with, chill bro
i bet your not even old enough to gamble in a casino.

[ttwarrior1]

Carbs: the ultimate enemy?


In an article published on the March, 2011 issue of Details magazine entitled “Are Carbs More Addictive Than Cocaine”, journalist Paul John Scott claims that carbs should be treated as your ultimate enemy and that it’s actually carbs not fat that make food fattening.
I really enjoyed reading this article so I thought it would be interesting to go through it and then discuss the outcomes of it.


According to Mr Scott the reason why in modern society we are (almost) all hooked up on fast burning carbohydrates is that they, just like cocaine, give you a rush. “As with blow, this rush can lead to cravings in your brain and intrusive thoughts when you go too long without a fix.”
Unfortunately, unlike cocaine, carbs does more than rewire your neurological system. Carbs and sugars will ultimately sh0rt-circuit your body and in particular your metabolism.
A diet flush with carbohydrates will reprogram your metabolism, locking your food away as unburnable fat. This means that when you get hungry again you won’t crave anything but more of the same food that started you down to the path of dependency. “Think of this stuff” the article continues “as more than a drug - it’s like a metabolic parasite, taking over your body and feeding itself”.


That’s a pretty strong statement to make, especially if you think that the USDA dietary recommendations advise to get from 45% to 65% of the daily calorie intake from carbohydrates sources. Let’s not forget that carbs (that are both starches and sugars) make up the essence of bread, cereal, corn, potatoes, cookies, pasta, fruit, juice, candy, beer and sweetened drinks. So, they are basically anything that is not protein or fat.
Scott continues arguing that the above mentioned USDA dietary recommendations were made during the 1970s and since then there has been an explosion of obesity and diabetes.
And, nowadays there is more evidence that at the center of the obesity universe lie carbs and not fat.
If you take this statement to next level you can actually claim that you could live your whole life and never eat a single carbohydrate (other of course that those that come from dairy products and meat). This view constitutes the core of Gary Taubes’ Good Calories, Bad Calories (which I strongly encourage you to read).
But wait, this is almost exactly the same view of the Paleo diet (that we have discussed in detail few days ago, right? http://www.theironyou.com/2011/03/pa...in-eating.html).


So what your body will do if you take out carbs? It will burn fatty acids for energy “The brain does indeed need carbohydrates for fuel but the body is perfectly happy to make those out of protein, leafy green vegetable, and the animal fat you’re burning” explains Taubes.
Scott further argues in his article that the issue lies not simply in carbohydrates “but in their fundamental addictiveness” which makes us keep coming back for more. And they achieve this more effectively than any illegal drugs.
Seriously? Carbohydrates are more addictive than heroin or meth? That’s a pretty impressive statement to make...
But there is a partial evidence of this, in fact in 2007 researchers of the Universite’ de Bordeaux, France, found out that when rats were allowed to choose between a calorie-free sweetener and intravenous cocaine, almost 95% preferred the sugar substitute. The research claimed that “intense sweetness can surpass calorie reward...The supranormal stimulation of these receptors by sugar-rich diets, such as those widely available in modern society, would generate a supranormal stimulation of these reception by sugar-rich diets, such as those now widely available in modern societies, would generate a supranormal reward signal in the brain, with the potential to override self-control mechanisms and thus to lead addiction”.


So, how you get hooked up? This is the six points path described by Scott in his article:
1) When you take in carbs (especially refined varieties like sugar or flour, sweetened drinks, or starches) you secrete the hormone insulin. The bad thing is that even just thinking about carbs causes this to happen.
2) Refined carbs spike blood sugar and the first result is that your body immediately stops burning its existing fat stores.
3) Too much blood sugar is a dangerous situation, and in response, the hormone insulin, rips it from your blood and tells the body to store the energy as fat (in men this first happens around the waist).
4) Normally your liver controls blood sugar, but because you eat so many carbs you have a constant supply of insulin circulating. This turns out to be very bad because it makes you resistant to insulin.
5) Insulin resistance means your body pumps out more insulin to make up for the deficit. Now that's when you start getting fat, but what’s worse is that your body desires even more carbs as fodder for the excess insulin.
6) You get fatter and fatter and your body craves more carbs to feed your increase girth. And this is the destructive cycle you’ve entered and that it’s so hard to break.
“Drug cartels can only dream of a narcotic with an addiction cycle this powerful” Scott concludes.
So if you’re hooked, can you quit? In his book Taubes says that it’s not easy, but you should give it a try “Anecdotal evidence suggests that the craving for carbs will go away after a while. Although whether a while is a few weeks or a few years it’s hard to say”. And like with any other addiction you’re unlikely ever to be totally cured, and you’ll always be tempted to relapse when the opportunity arises.


Few final considerations on carbs

I’m not a big fan of carbs in general and I’m strongly against the refined ones (why on earth you want to miss all the benefits and get only the damages?) so when I step upon articles like this one I’m easily fascinated as they’re always very appealing to me.

Truth is, if you want to lose weight you should cut completely on carbs, period.
I don’t know if you have noticed it but if you take a look at the most followed and popular diets around such as the Atkins, Dean Ornish and the very trendy Paleo, they all tend to be successful because the most important change they advise is the same: stop eating refined carbs.
All those diets rely on the principle that is sugar, flour, potatoes and rice that makes you fat not meat or vegetables.
On the other side if you’re in pretty good shape you may include some “whole carbs” into your daily diet. Why? First of all because they bring in a good amount of essential nutrients and soluble fiber that are so important for your overall health. Also because, if compared to dairy, fish or meat carbs are much more easy to digest and thus they tend to be less stressful for your body to process and metabolize.
Finally, if you practice sport at a competitive level “whole carbs” can be part of your diet as your muscles will crave for glycogen to burn and carbs are a readily available source of glucose that your body will turn into glycogen.
I know that there are many anti-carbs fanatics that will argue that you can go without carbs (and that it’s better to go without carbs) BUT as with everything I do prefer moderation and thus I believe that taking out for good carbs from your diet might be more harmful than beneficial.
But this topic is open for discussion!

TheIronYou

[COYLO]

you might wanna move out of your mom's house and stop blaming her. jesus you really need a kick in the balls tt, at first i thought you were funny but calling your mom's a "******* ho" WTF

maybe one of these day's you will grow up btw what age are you??

[ttwarrior1]

uh i don't buy the little debbie cakes and doritos, she doesn't eat them

Who said i blamed her, quit committing the fallacy of context switching.

I'll call her one on cam and post it for 200 pts.
I live here for a reason, u have alzheimers and forget?

Your probaly one of those guys that thinks fat turns to fat too huh.

I bet you get along with everyone in your family too huh
**** it, ice cream time

[COYLO]

I told her off finally and said quit buying me ******* doritos and little debbie snack cakes. i don't want the shit, quit buying it bitch.

******* ho wants to keep me fat, ill show that bitch.

sure sound's like your blaming her for your inability to stop eating everything in front of you!

you will call your mom names just to win 200pts????

dont understand what u mean by " i live here for a reason, u have alzheimers" please explain???

i know about diet and nutrition too tt, everything i know i have gathered first hand from bodybuilding and mma coaches ive had. i dont just copy and paste and try pass it off as my own ideas.

no i dont get along with everyone, but i do have respect for my mom.

[ttwarrior1]

lol at bodybuilding and mma coaches

head trainer at gym here recommends people to eat bread, high carb, low fat, enriched wheat flour and train 2 times a day if u can, means nothing and he is wrong

And ive said it before, I will do pretty much anything for betpoints. ill even rob a bank for betpoints

No more responses, never heard of ya

[InTheDrink]

what a fukking idiot

[COYLO]

what do i care what your head trainer says he's a bigger fool than you. you laugh @ mma coaches and a pro bodybuilders giving me advise whats up with that??

dude if your gonna post bullshit threads expect people to post replies. id actually give you points if you upload a vid of you at the gym coz i reckon your full of shit.

[Antwon1825]

Carbs: the ultimate enemy? In an article published on the March, 2011 issue of Details magazine entitled “Are Carbs More Addictive Than Cocaine”, journalist Paul John Scott claims that carbs should be treated as your ultimate enemy and that it’s actually carbs not fat that make food fattening. I really enjoyed reading this article so I thought it would be interesting to go through it and then discuss the outcomes of it. According to Mr Scott the reason why in modern society we are (almost) all hooked up on fast burning carbohydrates is that they, just like cocaine, give you a rush. “As with blow, this rush can lead to cravings in your brain and intrusive thoughts when you go too long without a fix.” Unfortunately, unlike cocaine, carbs does more than rewire your neurological system. Carbs and sugars will ultimately sh0rt-circuit your body and in particular your metabolism. A diet flush with carbohydrates will reprogram your metabolism, locking your food away as unburnable fat. This means that when you get hungry again you won’t crave anything but more of the same food that started you down to the path of dependency. “Think of this stuff” the article continues “as more than a drug - it’s like a metabolic parasite, taking over your body and feeding itself”. That’s a pretty strong statement to make, especially if you think that the USDA dietary recommendations advise to get from 45% to 65% of the daily calorie intake from carbohydrates sources. Let’s not forget that carbs (that are both starches and sugars) make up the essence of bread, cereal, corn, potatoes, cookies, pasta, fruit, juice, candy, beer and sweetened drinks. So, they are basically anything that is not protein or fat. Scott continues arguing that the above mentioned USDA dietary recommendations were made during the 1970s and since then there has been an explosion of obesity and diabetes. And, nowadays there is more evidence that at the center of the obesity universe lie carbs and not fat. If you take this statement to next level you can actually claim that you could live your whole life and never eat a single carbohydrate (other of course that those that come from dairy products and meat). This view constitutes the core of Gary Taubes’ Good Calories, Bad Calories (which I strongly encourage you to read). But wait, this is almost exactly the same view of the Paleo diet (that we have discussed in detail few days ago, right? http://www.theironyou.com/2011/03/pa...in-eating.html). So what your body will do if you take out carbs? It will burn fatty acids for energy “The brain does indeed need carbohydrates for fuel but the body is perfectly happy to make those out of protein, leafy green vegetable, and the animal fat you’re burning” explains Taubes. Scott further argues in his article that the issue lies not simply in carbohydrates “but in their fundamental addictiveness” which makes us keep coming back for more. And they achieve this more effectively than any illegal drugs. Seriously? Carbohydrates are more addictive than heroin or meth? That’s a pretty impressive statement to make... But there is a partial evidence of this, in fact in 2007 researchers of the Universite’ de Bordeaux, France, found out that when rats were allowed to choose between a calorie-free sweetener and intravenous cocaine, almost 95% preferred the sugar substitute. The research claimed that “intense sweetness can surpass calorie reward...The supranormal stimulation of these receptors by sugar-rich diets, such as those widely available in modern society, would generate a supranormal stimulation of these reception by sugar-rich diets, such as those now widely available in modern societies, would generate a supranormal reward signal in the brain, with the potential to override self-control mechanisms and thus to lead addiction”. So, how you get hooked up? This is the six points path described by Scott in his article: 1) When you take in carbs (especially refined varieties like sugar or flour, sweetened drinks, or starches) you secrete the hormone insulin. The bad thing is that even just thinking about carbs causes this to happen. 2) Refined carbs spike blood sugar and the first result is that your body immediately stops burning its existing fat stores. 3) Too much blood sugar is a dangerous situation, and in response, the hormone insulin, rips it from your blood and tells the body to store the energy as fat (in men this first happens around the waist). 4) Normally your liver controls blood sugar, but because you eat so many carbs you have a constant supply of insulin circulating. This turns out to be very bad because it makes you resistant to insulin. 5) Insulin resistance means your body pumps out more insulin to make up for the deficit. Now that's when you start getting fat, but what’s worse is that your body desires even more carbs as fodder for the excess insulin. 6) You get fatter and fatter and your body craves more carbs to feed your increase girth. And this is the destructive cycle you’ve entered and that it’s so hard to break. “Drug cartels can only dream of a narcotic with an addiction cycle this powerful” Scott concludes. So if you’re hooked, can you quit? In his book Taubes says that it’s not easy, but you should give it a try “Anecdotal evidence suggests that the craving for carbs will go away after a while. Although whether a while is a few weeks or a few years it’s hard to say”. And like with any other addiction you’re unlikely ever to be totally cured, and you’ll always be tempted to relapse when the opportunity arises. Few final considerations on carbs I’m not a big fan of carbs in general and I’m strongly against the refined ones (why on earth you want to miss all the benefits and get only the damages?) so when I step upon articles like this one I’m easily fascinated as they’re always very appealing to me. Truth is, if you want to lose weight you should cut completely on carbs, period. I don’t know if you have noticed it but if you take a look at the most followed and popular diets around such as the Atkins, Dean Ornish and the very trendy Paleo, they all tend to be successful because the most important change they advise is the same: stop eating refined carbs. All those diets rely on the principle that is sugar, flour, potatoes and rice that makes you fat not meat or vegetables. On the other side if you’re in pretty good shape you may include some “whole carbs” into your daily diet. Why? First of all because they bring in a good amount of essential nutrients and soluble fiber that are so important for your overall health. Also because, if compared to dairy, fish or meat carbs are much more easy to digest and thus they tend to be less stressful for your body to process and metabolize. Finally, if you practice sport at a competitive level “whole carbs” can be part of your diet as your muscles will crave for glycogen to burn and carbs are a readily available source of glucose that your body will turn into glycogen. I know that there are many anti-carbs fanatics that will argue that you can go without carbs (and that it’s better to go without carbs) BUT as with everything I do prefer moderation and thus I believe that taking out for good carbs from your diet might be more harmful than beneficial. But this topic is open for discussion! TheIronYou

So wait, fat doesn't make food fattening?

[ttwarrior1]

wow you didnt know this? carbs are the culprit

protein doesn't turn to protein
carbs dont turn to carbs
and fat doesnt turn to fat

[paranoyd androyd]

with no bread, lost 5 pounds in 2 days

I bet half the forum confused on that one. Always knew it would work, and yes i will probaly eat a bag of donuts .

0 carb except for the lettuce and few slices of carrots in the salad. Failed the last 40 times, i will succeed this time.

Ive only eaten lunch and breaksfast a handful of times in the last 17 years. Not easy to eat when your not hungry and im only hungry once a day and thats between 11 pm and 2 am

Mom is very angry i snuck into the ground beef and she says its very expensive now. I told her off finally and said quit buying me ******* doritos and little debbie snack cakes. i don't want the shit, quit buying it bitch. ******* ho wants to keep me fat, ill show that bitch.
I'll buy my own meat, salads, tuna etc if i have too.

you'll never gain weight if you avoid carbs - can have as much meat, dairy, and veggies as you like, and some fruit as well. keep up the good work.

[GTS925]

You still live with your mom?

[secretstash]

go on the all subway diet.. it works

-stash

[ttwarrior1]

lmao jarrod at subway lost weight because he ate 2 large pizzas a day and its been verified he took hgh and a fraud.

A subway sandwich is a hoagie. I love it when people eat subway and wonder whey they gained ten pounds onthere ass.

uh your eating bread with meat

[ttwarrior1]

lost about ten pounds so far, havent graved sugar or bread yet, not sure how long this will last, but the low carb feeling is a feeling like there is a sponge in your stomach soacking up water and fat .

Ate 2 cans of tuna and a salad so far . Having trouble finding a good salad dressing i like that is low carb or low calorie.

Always prefered creamy french or honey mustard. Not a fan of ranch style

[InTheDrink]

bump

what a fukking idiot

[macoeric]

unless the cheeseburgers were home made extra lean beef, wtf you bragging for

[ttwarrior1]

macoeric, fat doesn't turn to fat, u must be a kid that knows nothing

carbs are the enemy

when u eat a cheesburger with bread, its the bread that causes weight gain

[macoeric]

Lol dude trust me I know alot

[macoeric]

Ive been on Keto for like 3 weeks sorry I'm hallucinating

[ttwarrior1]

3 weeks, wtf

just ate a can of tuna, used 1 cracker, half a tablespoon of miracle whip

Guzzled some water

[hubster]

macoeric, fat doesn't turn to fat, u must be a kid that knows nothing

carbs are the enemy

when u eat a cheesburger with bread, its the bread that causes weight gain

The only thing that cause weight gain is putting in more calories then you burn. You can be on a 100 percent carb diet if the amount of calories you consume is less than what you need to maintain your weight.

[ttwarrior1]

not true, people on low carb can actually eat more calories then they were before and lose weight.

That 1970's crap your preaching doesn't cut it for most people

[DiggityDaggityDo]

Who the hell eats TWO cans of tuna???

You better throw mayo into those 2 cans and make 4 sammiches.

What a fat face!!!

[itchypickle]

Lost in this whole debate is the fact that you can eat all the carbs you want if you actually DO ACTIVITY other than Zynga games. It's one thing if you're trying to go for 2% body fat and need to cut out all sugars and cycle your water intake etc. but if you're simply trying to be in great shape and fit......RUN WALK and just MOVE

Without getting into the actual caloric weight of a pound vs fat/carb amounts in protein bar vs the actual weight the bar is and the science behind it all....just focus on deficits....work off more than you take in it's not that difficult...mix up your cardio and sprint/walk sprint (Fartlek or whatever its known as). I guarantee you people can eat 3000 calories a day...eggs and sausage in the morning...turkey sandwhich with bread and mayo for lunch....lasagna for dinner and still lose 20-60 pounds in 2-3 months.

[ttwarrior1]

not true again itchy pickle, ten bucks says you are under 160 pounds.

I exercise more than anyone in this thread and no it is not about calories in vs calories out. Get updated fellas. You sound like a 1977 scientist

lasagna and bread, lmao. I don't eat 3k calories before i started this.

No need to tell me how to exercise
MY neighbor eats about 8 k a day, doesn't exercise or lift and weighs 140 pounds.
My neighbor to the right is 50 and about 400 pounds and walks everyday, eats about 2000 calories just to stay 400. Sorry but everyone is not the same.

[ttwarrior1]

it was fun while it lasted i guess, mom made peach cobbler and spaghetti, probaly on purpose. Couldn't see myself throwing it away so i ate it. Unless i make this high carb and high fat day. The anabolic diet is actually 5 day low carb, 2 day high but wasn't planning on doing that. Now she purposely put out 2 little debbie snack cakes and doritos on the counter.

[itchypickle]

not true again itchy pickle, ten bucks says you are under 160 pounds.

I exercise more than anyone in this thread and no it is not about calories in vs calories out. Get updated fellas. You sound like a 1977 scientist

lasagna and bread, lmao. I don't eat 3k calories before i started this.

No need to tell me how to exercise
MY neighbor eats about 8 k a day, doesn't exercise or lift and weighs 140 pounds.
My neighbor to the right is 50 and about 400 pounds and walks everyday, eats about 2000 calories just to stay 400. Sorry but everyone is not the same.

Sorry bud I'm 190.

You're right that different metabolisms and frames play a part depending on the person but as far as weight levels...if you want to lose you have to do cardio so set aside the 140-160 bean poles.

Why do you think guys going into the Army/Marines come out ripped and tiny after 7-13 weeks? It's because they eat REALLY well but you are constantly moving...you wake up and you run...do your other workout then you run to breakfast...when you're done you run to you're room to change...then you walk to classes...then you run back...then you do some more throughout the afternoon then you get a good night sleep..and repeat.

I'm not a calvin klein model or a body builder...just a CrossFit junkie so I eat the hell out of some nuts (insert all the giggles here guys) which are loaded with fats and calories...but at the same time it's about not storing high levels etc. You'd be surprised at how much you burn off doing 40 yard sprints and sprint/walks for a few laps at the track and especially the rower.

[itchypickle]

it was fun while it lasted i guess, mom made peach cobbler and spaghetti, probaly on purpose. Couldn't see myself throwing it away so i ate it. Unless i make this high carb and high fat day. The anabolic diet is actually 5 day low carb, 2 day high but wasn't planning on doing that. Now she purposely put out 2 little debbie snack cakes and doritos on the counter.

How you aren't already a type 2 diabetic amazes me TT

[hubster]

not true again itchy pickle, ten bucks says you are under 160 pounds.

I exercise more than anyone in this thread and no it is not about calories in vs calories out. Get updated fellas. You sound like a 1977 scientist

lasagna and bread, lmao. I don't eat 3k calories before i started this.

No need to tell me how to exercise
MY neighbor eats about 8 k a day, doesn't exercise or lift and weighs 140 pounds.
My neighbor to the right is 50 and about 400 pounds and walks everyday, eats about 2000 calories just to stay 400. Sorry but everyone is not the same.

The fact is, it still is all about calories in vs calories out. The difference between now and 50 years ago is people take in a crap load more calories and are more sedentary than ever.

Also look at athletes. Marathon runners carbo load, do you see any fat marathon runners around?

[ttwarrior1]

no true hubster, your just saying stuff you read on google or from some book.

Marathon runners don't have much muscle either and considering how much they weigh are quite pudgy. Sorry dude but i don't want to go run. Running isn't good for you either

Amateur weightlifter wanting to cut weight : example, eating 4 calories a day and weighs 220
this is just an example so chill
He can go low carb and eat 5 k calories a day and end up weighing 200 pounds in a month eating 1 k more calories a day.

[dynamite140]

Go TTWarrior