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  • Ted Sheckler
    SBR MVP
    • 01-08-14
    • 1936

    #71
    Originally posted by tto827
    Is that Lkid's full post in the promo section now?

    Kid seems flabbergasted as to his banning.

    If he didn't obviously promote his tout service (major doubt as to whether it even exists) this is absolute horseshit and everyone here knows it. Hope you didn't jump the gun here Shari cause the kid wants nothing to do with this place anymore.

    Touts will do anything for cash and to have people believe them. When you're broke what's the best thing for you to do? Try to make a buck selling picks. Was Louisvillekid any good at gambling? Didn't really notice any threads from him on sports, just louisville stuff.
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    • ByeShea
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-30-08
      • 8089

      #72
      Originally posted by tto827
      Hope you didn't jump the gun here Shari cause the kid wants nothing to do with this place anymore.
      This would be like someone quitting after getting fired.

      I like Lkid. But still, if the Kid tried to sell picks on the sly (which is a laugh) then he's poor as balls. Shari is probably doing him a favor by banning him, maybe he goes out and gets himself a jobby-job.
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      • Cuse0323
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-09-09
        • 30169

        #73
        Originally posted by texhooper
        i think they realized that would leave a forum of you, me, and like 3 other people if they ever did that.
        Might be heading that way anyway with a few of the trolls sticking around too.
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        • timbaland99
          SBR Sharp
          • 04-22-12
          • 379

          #74
          Originally posted by jjgold
          I have no idea what happened
          Drinker ???

          Do you realize I want to nail Shari???

          Well that's means I have to support her decision or I have zero shot .

          Drinker I have not been with a women in 14 years .
          i though you banged that Asian chick 11 years ago, when the husband hurt your ass tendon?
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          • TheCentaur
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 06-28-11
            • 8108

            #75
            Originally posted by katstale
            Appreciate Shari even discussing what happened and why. Couple years back I had a friend on here who was banned for 6 months and they NEVER told him why. Would not answer his emails. I was at a bash and asked them to look into his case. He was reinstated with this "you know what you did and don't do it again!" Some of the mods on here have been like the little man down at the bank who turns you down for a loan BECAUSE YOU MAKE MORE MONEY THAN HE DOES AND BECAUSE HE CAN. So, thanks Shari for the extra time on this
            That sounds familiar
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            • MoneyLineDawg
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-01-09
              • 13253

              #76
              That one post?? Seriously??

              Fukkin joke....
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              • Ghenghis Kahn
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-02-12
                • 19734

                #77
                did lkid finally get his badge he was crying about?
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                • tto827
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-01-12
                  • 9078

                  #78
                  Originally posted by ByeShea
                  This would be like someone quitting after getting fired.

                  I like Lkid. But still, if the Kid tried to sell picks on the sly (which is a laugh) then he's poor as balls. Shari is probably doing him a favor by banning him, maybe he goes out and gets himself a jobby-job.
                  He isn't going tout, never has never will.

                  SBR inferred it from a post he made that when you actually read it has no mention of selling anything.

                  LK done with this shithole where POTY gets banned without a conversation first.

                  You done fukked up again SBR... Well done

                  Maybe in a year or two you'll succeed and only have JJ and Jonelyn talking to themselves under 6 different handles.
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                  • PAULYPOKER
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 12-06-08
                    • 36581

                    #79
                    TT

                    You are more intelligent than this......

                    let it go........

                    This forum is light years beyond any other sports forum.......

                    Gettin personal is a one way/no outlet road.....
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                    • I/O
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 05-26-11
                      • 7922

                      #80
                      Originally posted by tto827
                      He isn't going tout, never has never will.

                      SBR inferred it from a post he made that when you actually read it has no mention of selling anything.

                      LK done with this shithole where POTY gets banned without a conversation first.

                      You done fukked up again SBR... Well done

                      Maybe in a year or two you'll succeed and only have JJ and Jonelyn talking to themselves under 6 different handles.


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                      • The Kraken
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 12-25-11
                        • 28918

                        #81
                        Originally posted by tto827
                        He isn't going tout, never has never will.

                        SBR inferred it from a post he made that when you actually read it has no mention of selling anything.

                        LK done with this shithole where POTY gets banned without a conversation first.

                        You done fukked up again SBR... Well done

                        Maybe in a year or two you'll succeed and only have JJ and Jonelyn talking to themselves under 6 different handles.
                        SBR will be just fine without him, tot. Same goes for me and you. SBR is focusing it's efforts elsewhere and I can assure you that not a one of us are so important that it makes a difference whether we're here or not.

                        Tomorrow this will all be forgotten and John will still have the busiest of the forums, the most sponsors, the most players and will still be making the most money.

                        That's just reality, tot. I think you know this.

                        And in spite of all of that, Lkid will be back. Simply because the mods are forgiving pplz.
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                        • Eddy Munny
                          Restricted User
                          • 08-13-13
                          • 15767

                          #82
                          He had to go. He was touting and that's a fact. I suspected as much from day one and I made it a point to expose his illicit activities to the mods. I had several leads from other members that he was peddling picks to supplement his income. So I went undercover. I infiltrated his circle of touts, gained his trust, and then caught him red handed dealing picks for pay. It's an open and closed case.

                          What's all the crying about? The rules around here are fairly simple. If you can't abide by them, then exit stage left. Drinker, get the fvkk over it or I'll ban your ass too. There's a reason why I'm considered "untouchable" in the SBR community, and it's because I've quickly ascended the ranks since I made my debut. I have the ability to oscillate seamlessly between the SBR elite and the populous at large, which makes me the ideal candidate carry out such investigations as the LouisevilleKid scandal. I'm like a CIA black ops hitman of sorts.

                          LouisvilleKille has been on borrowed time awhile now.... dead man walking, if you will. He wanted an arrangement that left him with as little egg on his face as possible. That's why he started the whole "I'm leaving SBR" thread and whatnot. When he decided to violate the agreement and continue posting beyond the deadline, I set in motion the chain of events that would ultimately become his undoing. When I presented Shari with the evidence, L-Kid was unable to controvert a single shred of it. Despite his best attempts to bribe me, I went ahead and gave my blessing to the SBR elite that L-Kid be banned.

                          Let this be a lesson to everyone... that this is no longer the wild, wild west. If you want to mingle with folks in the saloon, or any other sub-forum, you better do it by the letter of the law. We're not giving away free pizzas and baseball caps just so you can turn around and use this cyber-realm for your own monetary gain, at the expense of our integrity. Fvkk LouisvilleKid and his whole gaggle of fanboys. If you don't like it, take a hike. Look at you InTheDrink.... making a spectacle of yourself, irate over the exile of your fellow conspirator. Don't think we aren't accumulating a book of evidence against you. You're lucky you're even still here. I would have had you banned 2 months ago if not for a loophole that gave you reprieve. You'd be best to lay low for awhile as long as I'm on patrol.

                          And out from the unknown sprang a hero that the world could not have foretold. He lay forth the creed that would become etched in granite and form the cornerstone by which all future forums would adhere. The snakes halted their slither, the hyenas silenced their laughter.... for the specter of retribution had rained down upon the throng, like an unheralded hailstorm. Dissenters (InTheDrink) poked their ghastly features through the fury, in insubordination, but were soon met with the Hammer of the Gods, and were promptly whack-a-moled back into more familiar roles of consent and submission. Eddy Munny shall blaze new trails by which the New Order may pass and the village idiots may forever reap it's rewards.

                          Eddy Munny
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                          • robmpink
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-09-07
                            • 13205

                            #83
                            Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                            He had to go. He was touting and that's a fact. I suspected as much from day one and I made it a point to expose his illicit activities to the mods. I had several leads from other members that he was peddling picks to supplement his income. So I went undercover. I infiltrated his circle of touts, gained his trust, and then caught him red handed dealing picks for pay. It's an open and closed case.

                            What's all the crying about? The rules around here are fairly simple. If you can't abide by them, then exit stage left. Drinker, get the fvkk over it or I'll ban your ass too. There's a reason why I'm considered "untouchable" in the SBR community, and it's because I've quickly ascended the ranks since I made my debut. I have the ability to oscillate seamlessly between the SBR elite and the populous at large, which makes me the ideal candidate carry out such investigations as the LouisevilleKid scandal. I'm like a CIA black ops hitman of sorts.

                            LouisvilleKille has been on borrowed time awhile now.... dead man walking, if you will. He wanted an arrangement that left him with as little egg on his face as possible. That's why he started the whole "I'm leaving SBR" thread and whatnot. When he decided to violate the agreement and continue posting beyond the deadline, I set in motion the chain of events that would ultimately become his undoing. When I presented Shari with the evidence, L-Kid was unable to controvert a single shred of it. Despite his best attempts to bribe me, I went ahead and gave my blessing to the SBR elite that L-Kid be banned.

                            Let this be a lesson to everyone... that this is no longer the wild, wild west. If you want to mingle with folks in the saloon, or any other sub-forum, you better do it by the letter of the law. We're not giving away free pizzas and baseball caps just so you can turn around and use this cyber-realm for your own monetary gain, at the expense of our integrity. Fvkk LouisvilleKid and his whole gaggle of fanboys. If you don't like it, take a hike. Look at you InTheDrink.... making a spectacle of yourself, irate over the exile of your fellow conspirator. Don't think we aren't accumulating a book of evidence against you. You're lucky you're even still here. I would have had you banned 2 months ago if not for a loophole that gave you reprieve. You'd be best to lay low for awhile as long as I'm on patrol.

                            And out from the unknown sprang a hero that the world could not have foretold. He lay forth the creed that would become etched in granite and form the cornerstone by which all future forums would adhere. The snakes halted their slither, the hyenas silenced their laughter.... for the specter of retribution had rained down upon the throng, like an unheralded hailstorm. Dissenters (InTheDrink) poked their ghastly features through the fury, in insubordination, but were soon met with the Hammer of the Gods, and were promptly whack-a-moled back into more familiar roles of consent and submission. Eddy Munny shall blaze new trails by which the New Order may pass and the village idiots may forever reap it's rewards.

                            Eddy Munny


                            I don't have a horse in the race and could care less. This was well written though. Not the facts and opinions, but the verbiage.
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #84
                              Kracken hit the nail on the head

                              Eddie Money great post
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                              • I/O
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-26-11
                                • 7922

                                #85
                                Originally posted by robmpink
                                I don't have a horse in the race and could care less. This was well written though. Not the facts and opinions, but the verbiage.
                                Is "whatnot" proper English Rob?

                                Just so I know for future use.
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                                • greenhippo
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-15-12
                                  • 9091

                                  #86
                                  Who here really thinks he won't be reinstated by Thursday? People begged (not saying he is or would) and were let back for saying and doing worse.
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                                  • sweep
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-09-10
                                    • 16753

                                    #87
                                    Now 5mike5 gets the boot......jesus
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                                    • Big Bear
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 11-01-11
                                      • 43253

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by sweep
                                      Now 5mike5 gets the boot......jesus
                                      who is that?
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                                      • THam12
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-12-13
                                        • 12640

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by sweep
                                        Now 5mike5 gets the boot......jesus
                                        Why??
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                                        • InTheDrink
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-23-09
                                          • 23983

                                          #90
                                          FYI kidder just decided to go with it and come clean

                                          Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                                          • TonyTall
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-21-13
                                            • 3551

                                            #91
                                            5mike5 as a tout
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                                            • ParlayininHTown
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-27-10
                                              • 7561

                                              #92
                                              Drinker, just shipped you my daily point for union dues.
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                                              • Cuse0323
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 12-09-09
                                                • 30169

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by ParlayininHTown
                                                Drinker, just shipped you my daily point for union dues.
                                                Time to strike!
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                                                • THam12
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-12-13
                                                  • 12640

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                  He had to go. He was touting and that's a fact. I suspected as much from day one and I made it a point to expose his illicit activities to the mods. I had several leads from other members that he was peddling picks to supplement his income. So I went undercover. I infiltrated his circle of touts, gained his trust, and then caught him red handed dealing picks for pay. It's an open and closed case.

                                                  What's all the crying about? The rules around here are fairly simple. If you can't abide by them, then exit stage left. Drinker, get the fvkk over it or I'll ban your ass too. There's a reason why I'm considered "untouchable" in the SBR community, and it's because I've quickly ascended the ranks since I made my debut. I have the ability to oscillate seamlessly between the SBR elite and the populous at large, which makes me the ideal candidate carry out such investigations as the LouisevilleKid scandal. I'm like a CIA black ops hitman of sorts.

                                                  LouisvilleKille has been on borrowed time awhile now.... dead man walking, if you will. He wanted an arrangement that left him with as little egg on his face as possible. That's why he started the whole "I'm leaving SBR" thread and whatnot. When he decided to violate the agreement and continue posting beyond the deadline, I set in motion the chain of events that would ultimately become his undoing. When I presented Shari with the evidence, L-Kid was unable to controvert a single shred of it. Despite his best attempts to bribe me, I went ahead and gave my blessing to the SBR elite that L-Kid be banned.

                                                  Let this be a lesson to everyone... that this is no longer the wild, wild west. If you want to mingle with folks in the saloon, or any other sub-forum, you better do it by the letter of the law. We're not giving away free pizzas and baseball caps just so you can turn around and use this cyber-realm for your own monetary gain, at the expense of our integrity. Fvkk LouisvilleKid and his whole gaggle of fanboys. If you don't like it, take a hike. Look at you InTheDrink.... making a spectacle of yourself, irate over the exile of your fellow conspirator. Don't think we aren't accumulating a book of evidence against you. You're lucky you're even still here. I would have had you banned 2 months ago if not for a loophole that gave you reprieve. You'd be best to lay low for awhile as long as I'm on patrol.

                                                  And out from the unknown sprang a hero that the world could not have foretold. He lay forth the creed that would become etched in granite and form the cornerstone by which all future forums would adhere. The snakes halted their slither, the hyenas silenced their laughter.... for the specter of retribution had rained down upon the throng, like an unheralded hailstorm. Dissenters (InTheDrink) poked their ghastly features through the fury, in insubordination, but were soon met with the Hammer of the Gods, and were promptly whack-a-moled back into more familiar roles of consent and submission. Eddy Munny shall blaze new trails by which the New Order may pass and the village idiots may forever reap it's rewards.

                                                  Eddy Munny
                                                  Answer this then: why are some rules enforced zero tolerance while others are basically not enforced at all? I believe posters feel as if there is a complete lack of consistency. Noone knows what "rules" will be enforced strictly on what day.
                                                  This in turn leads to no respect shown towards any of the rules. I just dont understand all the chest thumping while It seems as if some days people get away with anything and other days they are banned for silly things.
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                                                  • The Kraken
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 12-25-11
                                                    • 28918

                                                    #95
                                                    Good penetrating god, every situation is different. Learn this now, life isn't fair. Understand that there are times that ppl get jobs or promotions because the color of their skin, the size of their , how good a dick they suck or oyster they lick, because they like the same beer as the boss and guess who got leap frogged for the job, you. And you were more qualified. Get over it. Some ppl get banned for the something and the next person doesn't. Get over it. You sound like you're 19 years old and green behind the ears.

                                                    moral of the story, you should learn how to suck a good dick or you might be the next one banned
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                                                    • onemoregoal
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-04-13
                                                      • 8149

                                                      #96
                                                      your example is where there is something to gain.......... here posters are losing what they already have.
                                                      I suppose a better example would be the hot blonde having to suck dikk in the office to keep her job, but here, they just sue so...
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                                                      • Eddy Munny
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 08-13-13
                                                        • 15767

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by THam12
                                                        Answer this then: why are some rules enforced zero tolerance while others are basically not enforced at all? I believe posters feel as if there is a complete lack of consistency. Noone knows what "rules" will be enforced strictly on what day.
                                                        This in turn leads to no respect shown towards any of the rules. I just dont understand all the chest thumping while It seems as if some days people get away with anything and other days they are banned for silly things.
                                                        Well life isn't always a bowl of cherries now is it? You'll get a few cherries thrown in from time to time..... but it's mostly just pits, stems, and a few cigarette butts. I can't be on duty 24/7. Shari doesn't bother to log in half the time because she's still serving out her community service for charges stemming from a 2010 altercation at a kids' soccer game. Jojo is just barely past the introduction phase of her Rosetta Stone program, and Annie and Natalie don't have the stomach for tough decision making. I've reached out to a couple of other quasi-mods but all of them seem to be too busy "not caring."

                                                        So where does that leave me? Saddled with every petty little complaint here at SBR, that's where. I don't have the time, nor the inclination, to go through every incident report or grievance with a fine-toothed comb. I was actually pretty drunk when I reviewed LouisvilleKid's case and I don't remember much of the email. It all sounded plausible that he could have been touting, so I went ahead and cut him loose. He needed to be put out to pasture anyways, as his tenure here at SBR was a fairly long one, and his best posting days were clearly behind him.

                                                        As for the 5mike5 guy, I had a lot on my plate at the time I was summoned to opine on his case. I sped-read most of the email pertaining to 5mike5 because, at that particular moment, there was a marauding band of misfit squirrels hissing and chirping outside my window. There was some kind of fracas between these rogue squirrels and a stray cat that would frequent the neighborhood. I tried desperately to put the pieces together, but I'm no Blues Clues. The council of squirrels disbanded at one point and veered off in separate directions. Two of the squirrels raced up a tree and seemed to taunt the cat from the maple canopy.

                                                        I don't mean to get off the subject, but all of this appeals to me because I am in communication with a secret squirrel named "Nutterfingers." It sounds bizarre, but he visits me when I'm in deep states of meditation. He aids me in my quest to become the perfect handicapper. Imagine god, but with a bushier tail. That's Nutterfingers in a nutshell. This squirrel deity has yet to fail me when I receive his picks in a vision, an altered state. That's why I couldn't lend full concentration to the 5mike5 dilemma. It's also worth pointing out that I had about 5 dvd's I had to return to Redbox before 9 p.m. or else I would have incurred additional charges. At that point, 5mike5 was an afterthought.

                                                        In an effort to resolve the 5mike5 matter as soon as possible, I simply settled on banning him from any further forum activity on account of the fact that he was a big Nascar guy. I just felt that he was expendable. It's only race cars people. Who cares? If there was even a sliver of truth to the case against 5mike5, then I felt a ban was warranted. So I went ahead and shot Shari a text saying simply "he's done." If I made the wrong decision, then 5mike5 should be at least partially responsible for even leaving it up to me. If he had just kept his nose clean, nothing untoward would have ever surfaced. I was also drunk at the time and simply didn't have the patience.

                                                        Listen folks, I'm new at this whole moderation thing. Shari has bestowed me with a lot of authority in the past couple of weeks and it feels a bit like a new toy to me. I don't want to abuse this power, but at the same time, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. I don't have any formal training at this so you can expect a few bumps along the road. I'm gonna ban guys now and then. There's really no point in crying about it. It's not the end of the line. If L-Kid or 5mike5 want to re-register, all they have to do is purchase a new computer and enroll from a different IP address. Computers are much more affordable nowadays so I don't think there's any excuse on their part to not make the effort.

                                                        Things are beginning to change and change is good. InTheDrink's days are numbered so you may all want to start lamenting his departure right now, while he's still here. With the help of Shari, I was able to intercept some offline texts of his and let's just say he's had some colorful remarks about me and the New Order. It's unfortunate for him, but he made his bed and now he shall lie in it. I'm working on the case against him and it's going well so far. I've even uncovered a few nuggets that would make his very own mother blush. But that's neither here nor there. Mark my words though, InTheDrink will be gone by football season.

                                                        JJGold is a different story. I've fielded many complaints on this guy(s) but he seems to have the support of the SBR staff for the time being. That too will change. As my power continues to grow, I will usurp all decision making to the point where the entire forum is under my thumb. I think a totalitarian system fits me quite well. I aim to cull the population in order to strengthen morale. I will promote certain members to loftier statuses than they currently claim. Be patient my friends. The dawn of the New Order has awakened, with me at the vanguard. SBR will never be the same.
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                                                        • robmpink
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-09-07
                                                          • 13205

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by I/O
                                                          Is "whatnot" proper English Rob?

                                                          Just so I know for future use.
                                                          Mr. Belding, I missed that. It doesn't change my opinion.
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                                                          • Eddy Munny
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 08-13-13
                                                            • 15767

                                                            #99
                                                            Who gives a shit? I wasn't writing the Declaration of Independence. "Whatnot" is a word. Look it up. But in the meantime, don't let the parade go by. I've put a lot of information on the table in the interest of transparency. In the coming months, I will not be so forthcoming for reasons I can't disclose. Just know that the times are a-changin.
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                                                            • RubberKettle
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 12-28-09
                                                              • 6421

                                                              #100
                                                              I haven't seen this much fiction on one page since ttwarrior left us. God bless him.
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                                                              • gauchojake
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 09-17-10
                                                                • 34109

                                                                #101
                                                                Eddie, forums were not built with walls of text
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                                                                • tto827
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 10-01-12
                                                                  • 9078

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by Ted Sheckler
                                                                  Touts will do anything for cash and to have people believe them. When you're broke what's the best thing for you to do? Try to make a buck selling picks. Was Louisvillekid any good at gambling? Didn't really notice any threads from him on sports, just louisville stuff.
                                                                  He was a winning NCAAB capper, likely won in NCAA foots as well. Guy provided plays to the board for years at a consistent winning record and never asked for a dime. Kid had numerous opportunities when he was posting here to spin off and he could have gotten dozens of posters to sign up when he was on a roll. He didn't do it, had no intent to make money off his picks.

                                                                  Anyone with a clue should know that and its sad that apparently the mods don't have a clue.
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                                                                  • TxAaron
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-25-11
                                                                    • 2082

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Maybe the mods are angry about working for a small hourly wage?
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                                                                    • ParlayininHTown
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 06-27-10
                                                                      • 7561

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Daily point sent, Drinker.
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                                                                      • BennyBigNuts
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 04-16-12
                                                                        • 8700

                                                                        #105
                                                                        This thread is hilarious.
                                                                        Funny how ppl attack Shari like it's her fault L-kid was trying to promote another forum and tout or whatever while saying SBR sukks a fat cokk.
                                                                        She pasted his posts in here.
                                                                        The same rules apply for everyone, and especially someone who has been posting forever.
                                                                        Not like he didn't know what he was doing.
                                                                        That shithole forum they tried starting was a massive flop so he wanted to come back of course.

                                                                        Paying for his picks is laughable BTW, if that was his plan.

                                                                        The kids gonna be dead within a year or 2 anyways at the rate he's going. I mean look at his fkn videos.

                                                                        Move on boys, nothing to see here.
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