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    Aerobics, Myths, Lies and Misconceptions

    For three decades, ever since Kenneth Cooper, M.D., published his first book on the subject, the public has been force-fed the idea that aerobic fitness is the be-all and end-all of fitness and that highly repetitive, steady-state activities, such as jogging and bicycling, are the best means of achieving it. None of that is true. Aerobic conditioning is only one element of a broader concept—total fitness—which is made up of several components, including skeletal-muscle strength, skeletal density, flexibility, endurance, maintenance of lean body mass and, finally, a positive self-image. Only a properly conducted high-intensity weight-training program can achieve total fitness—and in a minimum of time. If you’ve been engaged in a fitness program that includes some type of aerobic activity involving the mind-numbing, repetitive use of the legs or a few skeletal muscles, you’ve been wasting your time. Aerobic activity does nothing, absolutely zero, to provide for increased skeletal-muscle strength; in fact, by overworking a few muscles to the exclusion of others, aerobic activity creates certain dangerous imbalances in the musculoskeletal system, which increases the likelihood of injury. Furthermore, as Greg Anderson of Ideal Exercise in Seattle explains in a brochure he gives to all of his members, “Running is an extremely high-force activity that’s damaging to the knees, hips and back. Aerobic dancing is probably worse. And so-called low-impact activities, such as stationary bicycling, aren’t necessarily low force.”
    Aerobic activity doesn’t improve flexibility, anaerobic endurance or lean body mass. In addition, owing to the gross overtraining that many aerobic obsessives engage in, it can actually cause them to sacrifice lean mass—known as overuse atrophy—and thus lose muscle tone. That’s what causes a deterioration of their physical appearance, which is responsible for the flabby look many of them have.
    Aerobic exercise activates so few muscle fibers that it burns very few calories and is, therefore, a poor way to get rid of fat. Despite what you’ve heard over and over, steady-state activities such as jogging, cycling and dancing burn very few calories. In fact, one pound of fat will fuel at least 10 hours of continuous activity. Some alleged experts have suggested that aerobic activity is important, as it increases the resting metabolic rate. Since aerobic exercise burns so few calories while you’re doing it, how much can it increase the rate of calories burned when you’re not doing it?
    It was never cast in stone that you must limit your exercise activity to repetitive movement of the legs to improve cardiorespiratory health and fitness. The cardinal principle for improving cardiorespiratory fitness is that you sustain an age-related elevated heart rate for 12 minutes or more. As a number of studies have demonstrated, that’s best accomplished with a program that works not merely the legs but all the major skeletal muscles with high-intensity weight training that limits the rest between sets so you can maintain an elevated pulse.
    Many well-known aerobics advocates are finally admitting that the concept of aerobic training is erroneous. Former cardiovascular surgeon Irving Dardik, M.D., for instance, exclaimed a few years ago, “The basic concept behind aerobic conditioning is wrong.” Dr. Dardik also made the point that the best way to train is by using short bursts of elevated intensity followed by a brief rest, followed by another burst of demanding activity. Then there’s Covert Bailey, author of Fit or Fat and once the guru of so-called gentle aerobic activity, who now recommends high-intensity wind sprints to those seeking maximum fitness. Wind sprints, while high-intensity, are a dangerous high-force activity that will inevitably result in torn hamstrings, strained Achilles tendons and damaged knees. A properly conducted high-intensity weight-training regimen, on the other hand, in which the muscles are worked relatively slowly through a full range of motion for 10 to 15 reps to failure and the forces are low to moderate, is the ideal way to exercise, with practically zero risk of injury.
    That’s how my associates and I train our fitness-oriented clients. To help them achieve a more productive, healthy and happy life, optimize the time they spend in the gym and achieve total fitness, we carefully supervise them through a series of high-intensity, low-force weight-training exercises. We accomplish that in two workouts a week averaging 20 to 30 minutes.
    The major problem in the field of bodybuilding and fitness is the near-universal—but erroneous—belief that more is better. As children many people acquire the notion that more candy is better than less, then blindly misapply that notion to other areas. Past a very definite, limited point, candy makes you sick and fat and causes dental problems.
    It’s a similar situation with exercise. Imposing just the right amount of exercise stress will cause a positive result, and anything beyond that will cause a negative result. As it turns out, the proper amount of exercise required to achieve optimal results isn’t nearly as much as you’ve been led to believe—hence your lack of satisfactory progress in the past.
    If more is better, why train only two or three hours a day? Why not take a vacation from work and train 18 hours a day? Then you’re sure to succeed, right? By the way, those stories about movie stars training five hours a day to get in shape for films are bunk. No one except a slave under a whip can sustain the motivation to train that much day in and day out. Females, especially, with their naturally lower testosterone levels, simply can’t tolerate as much high-intensity-exercise stress as some are reported to be engaging in.
    I’ve visited gyms in every corner of the world. Most people train at least three days a week for one hour per session. Why? It just so happens that in our culture the number three has a certain traditional magic. We have the Three Bears, the Three Stooges, the Holy Trinity, three square meals a day and the mystic concept that catastrophes happen in threes. Therefore, it’s only logical and scientific that we should train three times a week.
    The lunatic fringe in the field of bodybuilding has turned exercise into a religion of sorts, spending hours every day of the week mindlessly pumping iron, stretching, jogging and so on. Those people don’t exercise as a means of achieving a single, albeit important, value with a hierarchy of numerous other life-affirming goals. For them going to the gym is a social ritual that helps them manage the anxiety that inevitably results from the refusal to learn how to think and judge as mature, independent adults.
    While it may be laudable on one level to make it to the gym four to six times a week for two hours of training per session, on another it isn’t. The idea shouldn’t be to go to the gym to prove that you’re a good Puritan but to go conscientiously prepared to do what nature requires in the way of imposing the requisite training stress—and in the right amount.
    Whether your goal is a more modest one—to build greater strength and lean mass, lose fat and improve overall conditioning—or a grand one—to build strength and muscle for high-level sports or bodybuilding competition—keep in mind that overtraining isn’t merely wasted effort, it’s counterproductive.
    There’s no question that being in good physical condition is an absolute requirement for living a rewarding, happy and healthy life; however, it’s neither necessary nor desirable to spend an hour or two every day to achieve it. It’s not necessary, as optimal results—total fitness—can be achieved by doing well under two hours of resistance training a week. Any more than that and you’re spending more time pursuing a particular value than a normal life demands.
    Even Kenneth Cooper—the man responsible for single-handedly launching the aerobics movement—recanted, stating that he was wrong all those years, that more exercise is not better than less. A while back Dr. Cooper and his associates at the Cooper Aerobics Center in Dallas became alarmed at the rising incidence of serious medical problems—heart disease and cancer—among clients who jogged six days a week, some of whom threw in three days a week of weight training for good measure. They were purists, people who exercised, didn’t smoke, drink alcohol or eat much in the way of fats. Cooper was stymied at first, but by the end of the investigation he determined that overtraining was the cause.
    If you seriously doubt that overtraining may have long-term medical implications, bear in mind that exercise is a form of stress. While most think of a suntan or muscles as merely cosmetic, that’s not why they exist. Suntans and larger muscles are defensive barriers the body erects to protect itself from future assaults from the same stressors, but they can be overwhelmed. Someone who repeatedly overexposed himself to the intense August sunlight would soon die, as the sun’s rays would literally cook his skin and underlying tissues. By the same token, chronic overtraining could inordinately tax the overall physical system and possibly result in a breakdown somewhere, such as the glandular system. Cooper has gone so far as to attribute the Hodgkin’s disease of hockey great Mario Lemieux and distance runner Marty Liquori to chronic overtraining.
    A widespread myth among fitness enthusiasts has it that one must train one way for increasing muscular size and strength and another way for improving cardiovascular condition: lift weights to build strength and jog to enhance aerobic condition. As Arthur Jones stated, “Half of that belief is true, since jogging will do nothing to build strength and size and will, in fact, if overdone, as it usually is, do quite a bit in the way of reducing both muscular strength and size. But it’s not true that proper strength-building exercises will do nothing for improving cardiovascular condition.” How did Jones arrive at that conclusion?
    In 1975 Nautilus Sports/Medical Industries funded one of the most important studies in the history of exercise science. Project Total Conditioning was conducted at the United States Military Academy at West Point and was overseen by Colonel James Anderson. The purpose of the study was to pin down how to use Nautilus exercise equipment properly and identify the physiological consequences of a short-duration, high-intensity-training program. It asked such questions as, How much skeletal-muscle strength can be achieved from brief, intense workouts? and, How does strength training affect cardiovascular fitness, flexibility and overall body composition?
    The subjects included 18 varsity football players who trained all of their major muscle groups with 10 different strength exercises three times a week for eight weeks. The workouts were brief but very intense, with each exercise performed for only one set to failure. An extensive battery of tests and measurements was administered to the subjects after two weeks of training and at the conclusion of the study. According to the study report, “The prestudy testing was not scheduled until after two weeks of workouts to minimize the influence of what is commonly referred to as the learning effect on individual performance.”
    Results? After only six weeks of training, the 18 subjects had increased the amount of resistance they used in the 10 exercises by an average of 58.54 percent. What’s more, despite such a tremendous increase in their strength—and the associated increase in overall physiological stress they were exposed to—the duration of their training dropped by nine minutes.
    As a measure of the functional application of intense, brief strength training, the exercising subjects and a control group—which didn’t train at all or did so on their own—were tested in three areas: a two-mile run, a 40-yard dash and a vertical jump. On the two-mile run the exercising subjects’ improvement was four to 32 times greater than the control group’s. On the 40-yard dash it was 4.57 times greater, and on the vertical jump it was close to two times greater.
    What about cardiovascular improvement? While conventional strength-training practices preclude cardiovascular improvement, especially when trainees take long, arbitrary rest periods between sets—which keeps them from maintaining an elevated heart rate—at the end of the study the training subjects tested better than the control group in all 60 indices of training effects on cardiovascular function.
    Those supervising Project Total Conditioning used four measures of flexibility in human performance: trunk flexion, trunk extension, shoulder flexion and shoulder extension. The training subjects achieved much greater improvement than the control group—an average of 11 percent vs .85 percent for the controls.
    The public’s fear that weight-training exercise causes people to become muscle-bound—a condition of abnormally tight muscles that results in a profound loss of flexibility—is without foundation. With proper weight-training methods that emphasize working the muscles through a full range of motion, giving equal work to the agonist and antagonist muscles, trainees will maintain and in many cases improve flexibility.
    Finally, with regard to body composition, the subjects performing 10 weight-resistance exercises three times a week for less than 30 minutes per session lost more bodyfat than the control group.
    With Nautilus/Sports Medical Industries funding the entire project—with costs in excess of $1,000,000—doctors from the Cooper Aerobics Center were flown in to conduct the cardiovascular tests while doctors from West Point did the strength testing.
    In the past I’ve alleged that the field of exercise science is a sham, with some of the most celebrated studies never having taken place. Since Project Total Conditioning in 1975—after millions more dollars were spent to develop the most precise testing devices possible—more than 60 other research projects have been conducted, all of which proved essentially the same thing: the overwhelming superiority of brief, high-intensity resistance training for enhancing total fitness. In addition, while most of the studies have been published in scientific journals, the results continue to be ignored, for the most part, by aerobics advocates because they contradict what they’ve been espousing for decades.


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    overtraining, dear reader, is not something merely "kinda" or "sorta" negative - it is much worse than that. Overtraining is the worst training mistake a bodybuilder can make; it is precisely that which militates against the desired result. Overtraining, by definition, means performing any more exercise than is minimally required to trigger the growth mechanism into motion. Most bodybuilders today still operate on the notion that their purpose is to discover how many sets they can do, how much they can take or how long they can endure. And such is erroneous because bodybuilding is not aerobic. A bodybuilding workout is not an endurance contest! The actual, literal purpose of a bodybuilder is not to discover how many sets he can endure, but to intelligently do what nature requires merely to trigger the growth mechanism into motion, then get the hell out of the gym, go home, rest and GROW!

    Dorian Yates

    Overtraining is Overtraining

    By bill salihi
    I receive this so often that I thought it was important to reiterate it again. If you are having an impasse in progress, if you are feeling tired, lethargic or your metabolism is slowed... your body is trying to tell you something and that something is that you may very well be in an over trained state, a deep over trained state or nearing an over trained state! It may require a layoff, long layoff, a change in volume and frequency or all of the above. Overtraining is overtraining people! Please try to get this as this is the deadliest mistake a high intensity training bodybuilder or athlete can make.
    The theory of high intensity training was brought about by Mike Mentzer, an Olympian Champion, bodybuilder and trainer. Mike was the thinking man's bodybuilder... who spent a great deal of his career and life testing and researching the theory of high intensity training. He did this both in the gym, his phone clients and personally. Mike's contributions to bodybuilding and the understanding of anaerobic training were great, but the most valuable thing he taught me was how to think!
    I recently was in a High Intensity Training forum and a member had questions about training with a technique called Rest Pause. This technique is one that allows for a maximum contraction on every rep, while resting seven to ten seconds between each rep. Reps are normally no more than four or five and only one set is employed. The just of the post was that after doing rest pause training, this athlete felt tired for a good many days and wanted to train more often for the experience of training... he liked it and had an emotional attachment to it! He reasoned that if he waited longer between reps where he could do each rep without using assistance or dropping the weight and not training to failure, it would be easier on his system and he would not feel so tired. This was just a by product of a very important point that I will discuss below which was my answer on to the HIT athlete.
    Mike Mentzer Said....
    When Mike Mentzer said overtraining was not just something sort of negative and that it takes sometimes weeks to recover, you better believe it is the truth.... I have seen it in the gym and with my phone clients... although they don't like to hear it and usually not until we go through a thorough phone coaching session their negative results so far can usually be linked to overtraining, not high intensity stimulus... but not resting long enough to allow the increase to occur after high intensity training.
    You have to check your logic here... become emotionally unattached...because if you think clearly about it, you stated that RIGHT NOW...you are the strongest and most muscular you have ever been and you have been training in high intensity fashion. IF you continue to train within a specific spectrum of rest, and I find this very often...you are going to lose the battle. WHY? Because your strength can increase some 300% while your recover ability may increase only 50%! If you do the numbers you will see the seesaw tilting to one side. The only way you can compensate for the affect of growing larger and stronger is taking more rest time.
    It takes time for the body to recover. I can't begin to tell you how important that is. If the body doesn't recover... it can't go to the next step of laying down muscle. I have trainees that train every 10-14 days and not until then... do they compensate let alone overcompensate for the exhaustive affects of the workout. It is genetics. There are those that can train every other day and recover... (however not forever either....) and those, and I have had clients like this... who have had to take a straight six months off before they began to train again because it took that long for them to fill the ditch... this is true guys!! High Intensity, Heavy Duty (Mike Mentzer's trademark), R U Serious, you call it what you will is extremely demanding and thus extremely productive. If you have a thorough understanding of the theory, there is no guessing.
    This is the way to think through it...
    OK, you are training intensely, with an intense contraction to stimulate muscle growth, to turn on the growth mechanism.
    You are training briefly, not using too much of recover ability and leaving as much possible there ... being aware not to dig too deep of a ditch...
    ***Question....Are you really training briefly or do you need to cut back farther? Remember, training is always a negative, we are talking VOLUME....
    If you are still tired after a week or two or three, your body has not compensated for the exhaustive affects of the exercise, let alone over compensated.... more rest is required. Not everyone is using recovery enhancing drugs etc so it will take time, but the wait is well worth it.... we are talking FREQUENCY
    Read about Lethargic....
    Lethargy or Lethargic- deficient in alertness or activity; "bullfrogs became lethargic with the first cold nights" [ant: energetic] ... is lack of energy... energy is something we are, everything is energy... when we expend it... it must be replaced. The body recovers systemically and replaces energy as such.
    Have you ever noticed how when you are sick or over tired, you do not even feel like eating? Animals are the smartest...when they are ill, they waste no energy on eating, their body saves all its energy to fight off the STRESS, and sickness is a stress.... See... it is all stress related... the body doesn't know the difference...
    So if your metabolism seems sluggish, you feel lethargic etc, chances are you have allowed yourself to move into a state of overtraining and continuing so just digs a deeper hole. A sluggish metabolism or lethargic is the first symptoms I use, along with a slowing of progress, to analyze the beginning of the overtraining condition. If you are active and healthy and not over trained... you should feel energetic. If done properly, you should never reach a condition of overtraining.
    If we realize there is one valid theory of high intensity training, if we really understand anaerobic exercise, then the answer is not changing routines, not going to the volume approach, not dropping the intensity, the answer to the problem or question can be found in one of the two elements of this training... that is in volume or frequency or both.... who says that you have to train every so many days? Who says that your workout has to be one, two, three or five sets? Who says that those abbreviated workouts have to be all large compound movements? Stick with the theory and you will find the answers to the question.
    This really has to do with being 100% for your next workout. I personally could not imagine at this moment, another Rest Pause Leg Workout, which is my next workout. I am scheduled to train again tomorrow and I got news for you, I will reassess where I am next Monday...I have already taken eight days off since my last workout, tomorrow will be nine. I will add five days and if I am 100%, I will be there, 14 days later... if not, no problem. I am after the result not the experience so the less I am in the gym; the better as it gives me more time to live, play and enjoy the result, a strong, muscular and energetic body...
    Always use logic in working out these similar problems and you will find the answers precisely.
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    cliffnotes?

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    Looks like warrior scoured the net until he found an article that said exercise is bad. Raise your hand if you're surprised.

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    u need to read, weight training is stress , the body gains during rest,not while your in the gym

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    yup, exercise is bad, stay on the couch and eat doritos warrior, that way you will never get hit by a bus

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    i exercise 5 days a week dude, read up , these articles are not about me, your a dumbass and yes will eat doritos later

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    "Aerobics, Myths, Lies, and Misconceptions"-Sounds like a fat guy's dream. You don't get to where I'm at by lifting heavy weights and taking lot's of rest in between sets. You do it by volume training, jump-roping, super-setting, and eating smart. Each body recovers differently, but, and I don't mean to be an A-hole, TT, have you ever worked out hard enough that your body needed time to recover? You would lose so much weight if you tried to hang with me in the gym...I have helped so many fat people turn their lives around and it all occurred by busting tail and doing what I tell them.

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    who said rest alot between sets and not to do cardio??

    Yes i do high intensity trainining, but of course you know nothing about that. Im also a personal trainer and motivational speaker, and yes i do it for free

    Don't be posting if your not going to read and i did cardio today as well

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    I have participated in other threads that you have started on the topic of weightlifting and know your stance on the topic. You have repeatedly argued that lifting heavy and less reps is the key, while I and others (Mayan) have argued for volume training as being crucial...and you countered that we were over-training. You may be a personal trainer, but I have been one too. How many people come up to you and say, "how can i train to look just like you?" Again, not trying to being an A-hole, but just stating the obvious. I have seen your tennis videos and if you were properly training with intensity, you wouldn't be breathing as heavy as you do after doing a few serves and hitting the ball against the wall. TT, I am a fan of yours...love your posts and videos, but I need to intervene on your behalf and let you know, that you are not training properly. You are unhealthy. You could get on path if you trained completely differently and practiced a better diet...such as eating more meals throughout the day and not just one or two large meals.

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    Dont worry about overtraining....you show none of the symptoms of someone that works out too hard and too frequently

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    Why anyone would take advice or read anything fitness related posted by ttwarrior is beyond me.

    The guy is a fat ass fuk who makes all sorts of excuses for it.

    If you think you know about exercise go and do some and prove you can lose a pound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    who said rest alot between sets and not to do cardio??

    Yes i do high intensity trainining, but of course you know nothing about that. Im also a personal trainer and motivational speaker, and yes i do it for free

    Don't be posting if your not going to read and i did cardio today as well


    I gotta ask what the motivational speaking is in reference to.

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    ???????????? i never said lift heavy and rest alot between sets, u have me confused with some moron

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    TT, do you want to look good? Do you want to lose weight? Do you want to not have to post threads asking for a quick fix to lose weight so that you can feel good at the beach with your shirt off?

    I can tell you what to do and if you do it, you will lose weight...lots of weight. With your size, if you stick to my plan, you should drop a lot of water weight in the first week...you could lose 10-15 lbs. Would be good for the forum to see a better you.

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    dude my problem is diet, not cardio or lifting and sometimes i don't care. I dont need advice, people know how to lose weight , but most do not correctly know how to build muscle and strength effectively

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    TT, I have seen your videos/pics. Yes, some of it is related to diet, but there's a lot of room for improving your workout routine. You need to step it up....don't try and convince me otherwise. I know when I see someone whose fitness needs to be improved. Maybe you need a workout partner.

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    If someone told someone to do 3 sets of 8 or 4 sets of ten, nobody would question it, but

    what if they were told to do 3 sets of 11 or 4 sets of 7? They would question it. 1 set less then the exact amount is under training, 1 set more than the exact amount is overtraining. You can gain on under and over training but not amount is better then the exact precise amount.

    I laugh when i hear stories of someone that benched 400 doing 5 sets of 5. If 5 sets of 5 is good then it must mean that 4 sets is not enough and 6 sets is too much. If someone can bench 400 doing that routine, they could of done 600 or more on a properly conducted rational training routine. Would someone doing 5 sets of 5 see the same results from 4 sets of of 5 or 6 sets of 5? I can answer this but most people aren't even smart enough to raise this argument. Most weightlifters , fitness pros and trainers are the dumbest stupidest people in the world and this has been verified and reverified so many times.

    The same people that people listen too about how to train are the same people trying to scam u with all these bogus infomercials, etc.

    Be back later, i need to order a shake weight

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    high what is your workout routine and no i don't need help with any routine.

    I am not doing a 2nd 3rd or 4th set of anything, its a complete waste of time just like dorian yates, mr olympia jay cutler, larry scott, mike mentzer, arthur jones, and many others.

    Ps: a warmup set and a working set is not the same thing.

    Doing a leg press of 100 pounds for ten reps, 300 for 6, 600 for 2, ,800 for 1 and 1000 to failure is 4 warmup sets and 1 set to failure

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    Heading to the gym now

    one question for you and 1 only. This will determine what i think about you

    What is the #1 mass builder for the biceps. You can answer with 1 or 2 words or a long paragraph. when i get back i'll answer this question in a rational intellectual manner

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradthebloke View Post
    cliffnotes?
    a 350lb man is giving us fitness tips

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    high what is your workout routine and no i don't need help with any routine.

    I am not doing a 2nd 3rd or 4th set of anything, its a complete waste of time just like dorian yates, mr olympia jay cutler, larry scott, mike mentzer, arthur jones, and many others.

    Ps: a warmup set and a working set is not the same thing.

    Doing a leg press of 100 pounds for ten reps, 300 for 6, 600 for 2, ,800 for 1 and 1000 to failure is 4 warmup sets and 1 set to failure

    So you want to know my workout routine, but don't see yourself as needing help? Then you want to see my routine so that you can try and pick it apart, is that right? The problem with you is that you get too hung up on numbers and you don't pay attention to whether those numbers are doing anything positive for you. Your just like a statistician....you can break down a football game to the T, predict what will happen if this or that occurs, but who has never stepped on to the field and actually been in the game... I have experienced the BEST results when doing high-volume training. We're talking 15-25 reps...compound exercises. Believe it or not, I do not do isolated bicep exercises, because my biceps get zapped plenty when doing my rows, lat-pulldowns, pull-ups, etc.

    Look at me and tell me that my routine doesn't produce results....tell me that I over train because I do more sets than you'd recommend. I kill it in the gym...I have helped guys that are as big as you to get healthy...

    http://high3rel3m3nt.mysbrforum.com/...p.html?album=0
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    Heading to the gym now one question for you and 1 only. This will determine what i think about you What is the #1 mass builder for the biceps. You can answer with 1 or 2 words or a long paragraph. when i get back i'll answer this question in a rational intellectual manner
    Jerking off. But only if your cok is big enough for long strokes.
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    ttwarrior1...........I'm a 50% owner of a small business (company 18 years old.....I've been part for 16 years). We are in technology (manufacturing of micro electronics). Sales are down. Times are tough. Nobody making the amount of money we did in years past. Currently, motivation is lacking in our offices. My rah, rah speeches aren't getting it done. Neither are my A$$ kicking "steak knife" speeches.

    We are in desperate need of a professional motivational speaker. Please provide me with your qualifications, success stories, and references. If it all looks up to par I'll fly you out to beautiful San Clemente, CA........put you up at a nice hotel with ocean views..........and hire you a top notch escort.

    Anxiously awaiting your reply.

    W.W.

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    there is no way this guy is serious at first it was funny, but now its just lame

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    This is like Jenna Jameson giving advice on abstinence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    Heading to the gym now

    one question for you and 1 only. This will determine what i think about you

    What is the #1 mass builder for the biceps. You can answer with 1 or 2 words or a long paragraph. when i get back i'll answer this question in a rational intellectual manner

    hmm, preacher curls?

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    TT, You claim to workout 5 times aweek. To maintain your obesity you must be eating thousands and thousands of calories a day. How do you pay for all the food?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    Heading to the gym now

    one question for you and 1 only. This will determine what i think about you
    What is the #1 mass builder for the biceps. You can answer with 1 or 2 words or a long paragraph. when i get back i'll answer this question in a rational intellectual manner


    Fuk what you think about me. You wear a size 60 waist and you care about bicep mass. Your opinion means shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfaneReality View Post
    a 350lb man is giving us fitness tips
    sure am, who said they were mine???

    according to that theory you have michael jordan should be a head coach, emmit smith a running back coach, etc

    Did you know that 80 percent of chinese japanese, german and russian trainers never were weighlifters?

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    no i eat around 400 calories around 2 pm and eat dinner , then some junk before bed but not alot

    but like i said, who cares about practicing what you preach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Walters View Post
    ttwarrior1...........I'm a 50% owner of a small business (company 18 years old.....I've been part for 16 years). We are in technology (manufacturing of micro electronics). Sales are down. Times are tough. Nobody making the amount of money we did in years past. Currently, motivation is lacking in our offices. My rah, rah speeches aren't getting it done. Neither are my A$$ kicking "steak knife" speeches.

    We are in desperate need of a professional motivational speaker. Please provide me with your qualifications, success stories, and references. If it all looks up to par I'll fly you out to beautiful San Clemente, CA........put you up at a nice hotel with ocean views..........and hire you a top notch escort.

    Anxiously awaiting your reply.

    W.W.
    will be pming you later tonight or tommorrow. If i do this i want to do it right.

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    just because your in shape it doesn't mean you know what your doing or how to train other people. that goes for other sports as well. High volume is alot of sets, not reps. I do 15 reps all the time. Im not obsessed with numbers which is why i do 1 set to failure. I didnt think you could answer my questions though.

    Quote Originally Posted by High3rEl3m3nt View Post
    So you want to know my workout routine, but don't see yourself as needing help? Then you want to see my routine so that you can try and pick it apart, is that right? The problem with you is that you get too hung up on numbers and you don't pay attention to whether those numbers are doing anything positive for you. Your just like a statistician....you can break down a football game to the T, predict what will happen if this or that occurs, but who has never stepped on to the field and actually been in the game... I have experienced the BEST results when doing high-volume training. We're talking 15-25 reps...compound exercises. Believe it or not, I do not do isolated bicep exercises, because my biceps get zapped plenty when doing my rows, lat-pulldowns, pull-ups, etc.

    Look at me and tell me that my routine doesn't produce results....tell me that I over train because I do more sets than you'd recommend. I kill it in the gym...I have helped guys that are as big as you to get healthy...

    http://high3rel3m3nt.mysbrforum.com/...p.html?album=0
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