Does the Bible Really Call the Jews God’s Chosen People?

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  • TheRifleman
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    #106
    Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo


    You don't seem to be so understanding when it comes to the black community do you?

    I'm only looking at the facts and the facts are that blacks vote en masse on most issues. the sad part is that they don't even know what the issues really are most of the time......
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    • Dr.Gonzo
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      #107
      Originally posted by TheRifleman
      it's only an issue in your racist mind.....this guy is a clown.....who cares what he says..who the fukk is he?? He's probably a political shill for some anti Israeli group...one that you are probably part of....go blow Hitler, you loser.
      Yeah, who cares about the truth?

      I'd tell you to go blow Stalin, Trotsky and Lenin but you'd have to take Netanyahu's dick out of your mouth first.
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      • TheRifleman
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        #108
        All of a sudden you care so much about "Palestinians' and their rights??? First of all, there is no such thing as "palestinans"...never was, never will be...no country called "Palestine", no people called Palestinians...Yassar Arafat was an EGYPTIAN.....however, there WAS a country called "ISRAEL", and there ARE / were displaced Israelis, both jewish and muslim who are now living in their homeland.

        I'm assuming you are an American....if you are so indignant at the plight of displaced/ tread upon people, why are you living in America? A country who allegedly stole land from both the indigenous American Indian and the Mexican??

        The truth is you couldn't care less....you're just an anti semitic, SATANIC jackass spreading your vile hate and bitterness because you are a loser in life. Kill yourself already, you clown.
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        • Dr.Gonzo
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          #109
          Originally posted by TheRifleman
          I'm only looking at the facts and the facts are that blacks vote en masse on most issues. the sad part is that they don't even know what the issues really are most of the time......
          Why are ignorant people more dangerous than academic liberals pushing anti-white/anti-American cultural relativism?
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          • TheRifleman
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            #110
            Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
            Yeah, who cares about the truth?

            I'd tell you to go blow Stalin, Trotsky and Lenin but you'd have to take Netanyahu's dick out of your mouth first.
            you don't have a clue, you moron.....dumb.
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            • Dr.Gonzo
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              #111
              Originally posted by TheRifleman
              All of a sudden you care so much about "Palestinians' and their rights??? First of all, there is no such thing as "palestinans"...never was, never will be...no country called "Palestine", no people called Palestinians...Yassar Arafat was an EGYPTIAN.....however, there WAS a country called "ISRAEL", and there ARE / were displaced Israelis, both jewish and muslim who are now living in their homeland.

              I'm assuming you are an American....if you are so indignant at the plight of displaced/ tread upon people, why are you living in America? A country who allegedly stole land from both the indigenous American Indian and the Mexican??

              The truth is you couldn't care less....you're just an anti semitic, SATANIC jackass spreading your vile hate and bitterness because you are a loser in life. Kill yourself already, you clown.
              Beyond the Palestinians being given self-determination and their own state, or to be part of their own state, I don't care about them.
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              • TheRifleman
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                #112
                Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                Why are ignorant people more dangerous than academic liberals pushing anti-white/anti-American cultural relativism?
                because the ignorant are easily manipulated and brainwashed....the academics are using the negro to push their leftist agenda...once it is accomplished, they will abandon the ignorant beasts.
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                • TheRifleman
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                  #113
                  Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                  Beyond the Palestinians being given self-determination and their own state, or to be part of their own state, I don't care about them.
                  there is no such thing as "Palestinians".....NO SUCH THING. And these "Palestinians", have repeatedly been offered their own state, but have rejected it over and over and over again. Hamas is dedicated to the total destruction of Israel...they don't' want their "own state" , they want all of Isreal......they won't get it though. They will get DEATH.
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                  • Dr.Gonzo
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                    #114
                    Originally posted by TheRifleman
                    because the ignorant are easily manipulated and brainwashed....the academics are using the negro to push their leftist agenda...once it is accomplished, they will abandon the ignorant beasts.
                    And who are the liberal intelligentsia Rifle?
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                    • Dr.Gonzo
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                      #115
                      Originally posted by TheRifleman
                      there is no such thing as "Palestinians".....NO SUCH THING. And these "Palestinians", have repeatedly been offered their own state, but have rejected it over and over and over again. Hamas is dedicated to the total destruction of Israel...they don't' want their "own state" , they want all of Isreal......they won't get it though. They will get DEATH.
                      The people who were living their for generations and have documented proof of ownership to parts of the land as individuals.

                      Do you want to kick them out of the territories that they now occupy?
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                      • TheRifleman
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                        #116
                        Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                        The people who were living their for generations and have documented proof of ownership to parts of the land as individuals.

                        Do you want to kick them out of the territories that they now occupy?
                        BS...anyone who wished to continue to live in Israel after they were repatriated with their land, we given the opportunity stay....some did and prospered, some choose to leave and fight....that was their choice.....it wasn't their land to begin with....
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                        • Dr.Gonzo
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                          #117
                          Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                          And who are the liberal intelligentsia Rifle?
                          Answer this question, it's the important one.
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                          • Dr.Gonzo
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                            #118
                            Originally posted by TheRifleman
                            BS...anyone who wished to continue to live in Israel after they were repatriated with their land, we given the opportunity stay....some did and prospered, some choose to leave and fight....that was their choice.....it wasn't their land to begin with....
                            ? If you own a piece of property it is yours.

                            The Palestinian and Israeli territories were populated by a majority Islamic and Christian populated before the Balfour Declaration and the subsequent policies.

                            Regardless, they occupy land now which apparently you want to see them evicted from. Where is the Jewish claim to this land (the land they now occupy)?
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                            • TheRifleman
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                              #119
                              Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                              And who are the liberal intelligentsia Rifle?
                              liberal intelligentsia are made up of MANY different races and ethnic groups. Are you implying that just the alleged "JEWS" are spear heading liberalism? LOL......The label is essentially a rhetorical device with flexible meaning depending on where in the English speaking world it is used. And as a polemical term it has been used to refer to many different political positions.

                              It looks like you are part of the ignorant crowd who can be easily manipulated.....I knew you weren't too bright.
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                              • TheRifleman
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                                #120
                                Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                ? If you own a piece of property it is yours.

                                The Palestinian and Israeli territories were populated by a majority Islamic and Christian populated before the Balfour Declaration and the subsequent policies.

                                Regardless, they occupy land now which apparently you want to see them evicted from. Where is the Jewish claim to this land (the land they now occupy)?
                                Jews base their claim to the land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham 2) the Jewish people settled and developed the land 3) the international community granted political sovereignty to the land to the Jewish people and 4) the territory was captured in defensive war(s)
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                                • TheRifleman
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                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                  ? If you own a piece of property it is yours.

                                  The Palestinian and Israeli territories were populated by a majority Islamic and Christian populated before the Balfour Declaration and the subsequent policies.

                                  Regardless, they occupy land now which apparently you want to see them evicted from. Where is the Jewish claim to this land (the land they now occupy)?
                                  you mean I can kick you off your property in the US, and than say it's mine because I made you leave at the point of a gun??

                                  REALLY???
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                                  • TheRifleman
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                                    #122




                                    You mean the Israelis can't have that small, tiny slice of land??? Land that they is rightfully theirs??
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                                    • Dr.Gonzo
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                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by TheRifleman
                                      liberal intelligentsia are made up of MANY different races and ethnic groups. Are you implying that just the alleged "JEWS" are spear heading liberalism? LOL......The label is essentially a rhetorical device with flexible meaning depending on where in the English speaking world it is used. And as a polemical term it has been used to refer to many different political positions.

                                      It looks like you are part of the ignorant crowd who can be easily manipulated.....I knew you weren't too bright.
                                      Just like they wielded the majority of influence within the soviet union, they weld the majority of of influence within the liberal intelligentsia
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                                      • Dr.Gonzo
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                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by TheRifleman
                                        Jews base their claim to the land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham 2) the Jewish people settled and developed the land 3) the international community granted political sovereignty to the land to the Jewish people and 4) the territory was captured in defensive war(s)
                                        So they have no legitimate claims to the land they don't currently occupy, I see.
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                                        • Dr.Gonzo
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                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by TheRifleman
                                          you mean I can kick you off your property in the US, and than say it's mine because I made you leave at the point of a gun??

                                          REALLY???
                                          No you can't, but your relative could have hundreds of years ago.

                                          Or should we give the land back to the Indians?
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                                          • Dr.Gonzo
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                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by TheRifleman




                                            You mean the Israelis can't have that small, tiny slice of land??? Land that they is rightfully theirs??
                                            I'm not against an Israeli state, at the very least they can have the pre 67 borders.

                                            It's not my major concern either, I'm more worried about American and Europe (the West).
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                                            • stevenash
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                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by TheRifleman
                                              However, while the passing of the title to the land to the descendants of Abraham through Isaac is eternal and unconditional, God made it clear that Israel’s actual possession and enjoyment of the land was conditioned upon her spiritual state. God made it clear that disobedience would result in Israel’s banishment from the land:

                                              If you do not obey the LORD your God and do not carefully follow all His commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come upon you and overtake you. Just as it pleased the LORD to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will please Him to ruin and destroy you. You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess. Then the LORD will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other (Deuteronomy 28:15, 63-64 NIV).


                                              God also made it clear that national repentance would result in restoration of God’s blessing and promise:
                                              The LORD will again delight in you and make you prosperous, just as He delighted in your fathers, if you obey the LORD your God and keep His commands and decrees that are written in this Book of the Law and turn to the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul (Deuteronomy 30:9-10 NIV).

                                              Later Old Testament prophets described Israel’s sin, and its consequences ( Isaiah 1:1-24 ; Amos 3-6 ; Hosea 2:2-13 ). In the intervening centuries the people of Israel have been persecuted as no other nation in history, and yet they have been preserved as God promised (Jeremiah 33:19-26 ). Looking to the future, Scripture seems to indicate that:


                                              1. The notes of the New Scofield Reference Bible provide this concise statement regarding Israel’s unique role:
                                                Israel was called to be a witness to the unity of God in the midst of universal idolatry (Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 43:10-12 ); to illustrate the blessedness of serving the true God (Deuteronomy 33:26-29 ); to receive and preserve the divine revelations (Deuteronomy 4:5-8; Romans 3:1,2 ); and to be the human channel for the Messiah (Genesis 21:12;28:10,14; 49:10 ; 2Samuel 7:16,17 ; Isaiah 7:13-14; Matthew 1:1 ). Back To Article




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