yeah but if I remember correctly that was more to do with Stephen's initiating the grappling first. Looked to me like Pettis knew he might get decision-ed if he didn't start looking to clinch before Jeremey did.
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yeah but if I remember correctly that was more to do with Stephen's initiating the grappling first. Looked to me like Pettis knew he might get decision-ed if he didn't start looking to clinch before Jeremey did.
Goes both ways though. I'd take these guys opinions over Dana and Goldberg.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
Cody Mckenenzie lolz
@JoeLauzon
Joe Lauzon I eagerly await fight metrics for this fight... I thought Diaz won that all night long.
@TimKennedyMMA
Tim Kennedy I HATE judges! @ufc
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@patmiletich
Pat Miletich That decision was an absolute joke. At best, Condit won 2 rounds.
@Jens_Pulver
Jens Pulver Diaz wins via ring generalship, one moving forward, one moving
backward. Ala delahoya vs Trinidad in my opinion, it's 3 opinions that
judge
@mattlindland
Matt Lindland Great fight Diaz 1,2,5 Condit 3,4
@mark_munoz
Mark Muņoz Gr8 fight! Think Diaz 4 rounds to 1. We'll see! #ufc143
@TheCodyMcKenzie
Cody McKenzie Wow really goes to show you how bad these judges suck Carlos ran the entire time
@joshneer
josh neer Wow. Nick got robbed 4-1 diaz. Carlos was doing the Forrest Gump #runforestrun
@RondaRousey
Ronda Rousey If I wanted to see a man run for 25 minutes I'd go to a track meet. Diaz is the real champ, what a bulls*** fight
@CungLe185
Cung Le I meant Diaz rounds 1,2 & 5 and Condit 3 & 4
@EllenbergerMMA
Jake Ellenberger You got to be kidding me...
@thugjitsumaster
Yves Edwards I wanted Nick to win but there's no way Condit won 4 rds backing up
seriously internet tough guy, you are hiding behind a computer screen. shut the **** up already. like you've even been in a fight before. you are a punk ass bitch just like diez.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Mayan
:lmao::lmao::lmao: internet tough guy? Sweet ol' me...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn
You're new here.. I understand..:lmao:
legs kicks count, ask Uriah Faber of see the video of his bruised leg after fighting Jose Aldo.
If Diaz is the better striker, and the better grappler, and has unmatched cardio... Why didn't he dominate Condit???
Because he is stupid... Plain and Simple. He is the most entertaining fighter because he is stupid, and he lost this fight because he is stupid, and the shit he said after the fight was stupid...
Mike Tyson was stupid...
Stupid sells, but always disappoints in the end...
Not a good fight. The audience are the real losers here.
The Primetime show was the best part about whole thing really!
Thats alot of Nick Diazs friends ...Quote:
Originally Posted by illmatick
He clearly lost. I had him losing every round except the 5th which I saw as even despite his takedown. Yea, as he said 'he doesnt need this shit'. Good luck finding a real job.
A few of them I'm sure, but there's a few Diaz haters in that list as well. 1,2 and 5 for Diaz was how I scored it as well but the last 3 rounds were somewhat close. Condit's only clear round was round 4-- or maybe it was 3, can't remember now.
Tim Kennedy trains with Condit to be fair!
Miesha Tate Condit won no doubt
Gabriel Ruediger
Last night,I felt that condit won the fight 3rds to 2. It was strategic and nick wanted to actually fight, but condit stuck to his game plan and landed more. This is my opinion and judjing from my news feed everyone has different feelings on this
Derek Bolender (Great MMA reporter)
Scored it 48-47 Condit. Close fight. No robberies here.
John Howard Good fight but i had Diaz losing that fight
Tito Ortiz
I had a draw! #UFC143
Rocky Johnson Carlos was and is a very intelligent fighter. Why brawl with a brawler? He is interim champ for a reason, he's smarter and obviously way classier then Diaz the douche.
So it is really just a matter of opinion. As a fighter, you know that if you leave it in the hands of the judges, anything can happen. Carlos Condit set the UFC record for most leg kicks in a single fight BTW
@TheCodyMcKenzie
Cody McKenzie Wow really goes to show you how bad these judges suck Carlos ran the entire time
:lmao:
That guy knows nothing about striking
I feel ya though illmatick, it was a very close fight.
http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/02/...tatistics.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by illmatick
The statistics back up Condit, barely though.
If a simple strategy of Kick n'Run can not be countered, then that is a failure Diaz's part. Weak corner-man is to blame also.
Many of the sources like Dana, Rogan and Goldberg aren't really credible sources for real opinions on the fight. Rogan and Goldie are the only commentators from any organization to be scared of having unofficial scorecards. Dana has to say the judges opinion was okay and it was a close fight because he has to sell the Condit/GSP fight.
Condit's face looked just as bad as Diaz' if not worse at the end of the fight and fight stats don't prove anything. Most of the time in past fights the winner has been the guy pushing the pace and bringing the fight to the other guy. This is especially true in closer fights. The sportsbooks don't like giving away their money so there is a reason why lines were the way they were live betting.
Condit out threw him in 4 0f 5 rds, outlanded him in 4 of 5 rds, and had way more exciting striking technique with head kicks, flying knees, and spinning back fists. Diaz was himself and could not even land many of his pitty pat punches. I repeat from my previous post. DO NOT CONFUSE MOVING FORWARD WITH "CONTROLLING THE OCTAGON" OR "RING GENERALSHIP". He had better striking technique. He executed a game plan and won the fight.
To the meathead MMA fans that don't know shit, this fight is what a real MMA fight is supposed to look like in your eyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdVZV1h3Gd8
:lmao: don frye will make you cry with just a look, lil boy..
All the guys in MMA and MMA trainers that posted saying it was a bad decision know nothing I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by rocky502
You're saying Condit won because he had "exciting striking technique". Good for him. What do you consider exciting? Getting on a bicycle and pedaling around the octagon while landing insignificant strikes? Diaz was never in trouble the entire fight, while Condit on the other hand, was hit so badly he had to back peddle the whole fight to recover. Strikes mean very little in MMA. They are only a small part of it.
It's hard for Diaz to land anything when Condit is running. Condit was not moving in and out he was running. Diaz had full control of the pace of the fight and the exchanges. If Diaz wanted to take it easy he could have stayed in one spot and Condit would not have engaged. This is the maximum amount of control anyone can have in a fight.
Maybe we should all go look at fightmetric stats like you though because that always tells the whole story of a fight. Fightmetric is so good that in the future maybe they'll just use that instead of judges.
I like reading Mayan's posts because I'm always curious to hear the voice of retards that have figured out the whole internet access puzzle.
These UFC threads always turn into people challenging each other to fights :lmao::lmao: all these kids wearing there affliction t-shirts while typing on an anonymous Internet forum :lmao: unreal
:lmao::lmao: calling people retards don't make you smart lil boy.. It makes you delusional...Quote:
Originally Posted by Educ8d Degener8
:lmao::lmao: now go and suck Danas rooster lil guy.
You're fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Mayan
And your squat form sucks.
Mayan is the only one that can talk shit because he met another poster to kick his ass :lmao: all these other anonymous fuks with there affliction shirts on watching this garbage crack me up:lmao:
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:highfive:Quote:
Originally Posted by zsr
http://educ8ddegener8.mysbrforum.com...l/U9922cyS.jpgQuote:
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Originally Posted by Kaladarus
So the judges are wrong, Rogan/Dana are not credible and Fightmetric means nothing. Anything that points towards a Condit win is not legitimate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaladarus
:lmao:yea thats the pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Kaladarus
moving forward and landing fewer strikes does not beat moving away ("running") and landing more. A guy walking forward into a jab does not gets more points for aggression or control like some people here think
who were the 3 judges?
Allegedly... Patricia Morse-Jarman, Junichiro Kamijo, annnnnnnnnnnd Cecil Peoples.Quote:
Originally Posted by illmatick
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/1/12/27...-referee-judge
edit:
Confirmed via scorecard...
http://educ8ddegener8.mysbrforum.com...l/94w3KLmK.jpg
nice, just looked up their scorecards. Peoples and Jarman only gave Diaz one round and it wasn't even the 5th. Awesome.
Judge Peoples gave Diaz round 3
Judge Morse-Jarman gave Diaz round 3
Judge Kamijo gave Diaz rounds 2 and 5
Funny how Queer Mayan bashes UFC and still watch it shows.. Fukking hyprocrite!