[MarlinsFan2212]

Im a mediocre to bad poker player as it is, but I swear I run so Bad on Bodog. I mean my past 15 or 16 Tournaments on here I have been right before the money cutoff, and I have been knocked out as a 70% favorite or better each time. I understand there is an element of luck in Poker, but seriously this is getting annoying.
2 great examples are last night and tonight.
Yesterday I was 5th in chips with 65 players left, with the chip leader at my table. I have K10, he has K7. Flop come 8K4, he bets, I raise, he goes all-in, I call. Guy rivers a 7, I get knocked out in 65th and dont even get to the money.
Today I am short-stacked and in late position. I get AQ suited, and with like 12 BB left and go all-in. I get called by A9 off and Q9 off. Flop comes 10,9,8, Turn K, RIver K.
Is anybody else having this bad of luck?

Ive only been on Bodog for 3-4 months. Any experienced Bodog players with any Tips lol.

[sinmiedo]

congrats....welcome to the Bodog's world......if you think that is bad, just play on the cash tables.

[mrmarket]

People have a hard time understanding the amount of luck that is involved in poker. It is possible you're going through a cold patch but it is nothing compared to some. Go on 2+2 Forums under the Beats,Brags and Variance forum subsection and look at threads people post about running under EV. Most of course have leaks and it's their own fault but that only accounts for a certain % of the graphs. People are just unlucky sometimes and it can last over a long period (think years).

[no1here]

Played Bodog a ton and believe same problem exists everywhere. As partial solution, I change my style to alot more all-ins as not to get the callers. I feel all-in is my best weapon and use it alot. I do not get the ups and downs cashing most days. I do get the bad beats & suck outs but they come in both directions. Playing so many tournaments daily, I am allowed to forget my misfortunes immediately and move on. I have learn long ago that I cannot stop it so I no longer think of doing so. Important: Unless you are reviewing play for learning purposes never think back, forget and move on to the next hand or game, as there always is one.

On a side note, Luck changes hourly and one may change their luck. Many times I will change seats or do a number of other things like praying.

Another thought. I do keep notes which includes losing hands. Gonna post some here to see if we can learn something from them. I do pay attention to how the day is going and will write down any problems that I may be encountering. Notataion written for may 16th is; 2nd day of very bad suck outs.

If I could teach you all two things it would be to keep notes and never deposit. The mind will play tricks and numbers need to be reviewed.

first hand is mine
may 16th a-k vs a-6, a-5 vs 8-3, j's vs a-6 all in same game
may 16th a-3 suited vs q-5 suited & 10-q suited, board came 687JQ
may 16th k's vs k'6
7 played, cashed 2
may 15th 7's ran into j's in big blind
may 15th only says lost to suck outs, rarely do I not post exact hands
may 15th only says, many suckouts
6 played, none cash
may 14th 5-k vs 3-4
may 14th ran into a's & K's
may 14th ran into aces
4 played, cash 2
may 13th no issues
4 played, cash 3
may 12th, walked into straight
4 played, cash 1
may 11th, no issues
4 played, none cash
may 10th, 10-j vs q-k
may 10th, bad play k-q vs straight
3 played, none cash but two 7th's
may 9th, 9's vs j's
may 9th, 6's vs 7's both sets
8 played, none cash
may 8th, k's vs a's
may 8th, 8's vs q-k
12 played, cash 1
may 7th, a-j vs a-10
4 played, cash 1
may 6th, no issues
2 played, none cash
may 5th, q-9 vs q-j chasing bounty on pro
may 5th, lost to inside straight
3 played, none cash
may 4th, no issues
3 played, 1 cash
may 3rd, no issues
2 played, 2 cash
may 2nd, lost to bad suck out
8 played, 1 cash
may 1st, ran into aces
10 played, 2 cash

84 played, 16 days, 16 cashes, 6 none cash, roughly 14-16 unlucky loses

Notes show 3 scattered sucks outs being on the 2nd, 5th, and 7th plus two very bad days being the 15th & 16th when I ran into several on both days. Looking forward from the 17th to 20th I was unable to play.

Results here are that bad beats really do not happen that often and that there are bad days of them. I do classified my days and analysis right away how is my game going and often can recognize my lucky card for the day which constantly changes.

Rather you guys want it or not, I do and will be posting my month of April to further investigate Bad Beats & Suck Outs. They have been my biggest problem until I figured out just to ignore them.

Question is, Are they Stopable and I think not and it is not only coming from the bad players as I am usally with the best.

Alot on none cashes in May that I do not believe we will see in April. May has been tough where as I believe April was strong. This is why I like notes and I do alot of researching just like this. I have bodog stats for my whole career there of 1/2 million hands. I know exactly where I stand, Do You?

Bodog use to be a great site for me but hardly anymore liking only Sundays and privates. Very Good ring there.

[no1here]

another notation is that suited hands are not appearing much being only one day the 15th.
seems weird and suppose alot more show up in April

[unusialsusp5]

really think its rigged

[sinmiedo]

last night i finish 42 on the 30m points free roll and got gack to a possitive. I only made 1.50 but it is a good start again.
I will continius plaing till get some money and just play tournaments only for a while.
I will stay away from the cash tables at small stakes since there are very loose players there and willing to loose just to make the bad beat happens.
I agree a lot with no1here since he has a ton of experience and reading his posts can bring some peace to the bad luck run, that also has happes to me at the casino in 1 occation, and i belive is mostly to do with our play as well because we do not know how to get out of a hand and our math was not there in the first place.
I had been playing for 4 years but this last has been instense on the online front, but, not using my money, i just made some freroll and move on from there.
It is a lot harder, but you learn quickly to lay down in order to preserve you bank roll.

[poker_dummy101]

variance. keep playing

[RazzFan]

Well it appears everyone in this other thread seems to do well there.
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/poker/4532...t-players.html

[daneblazer]

Yesterday I was 5th in chips with 65 players left, with the chip leader at my table. I have K10, he has K7. Flop come 8K4, he bets, I raise, he goes all-in, I call.

The douche bag poker coach in me wants to ask why were you calling an all in there against the chip leader in that situation w/ KT to begin with?

[andrew5]

bad beats rivered bodogs last software update i don't know super accts or are they cheating ????????

[jeremythegreat]

it goes both ways at bodog............my name there is jeremythegreat i play mainly 12 to 33 heads up games,,,,,,,,,then bet profit on celtics or lakers

[Phightin' Phils]

why would you ever want to get it in with k10 in that spot?? so stupid imo. 65 people left and youre in 5th place. theres so much tourny left to play at that point, why would you risk your tourny life on that hand? doesnt matter that youre the favorite, just a terrible risk imo.

[sinmiedo]

i m finnally doing better////////////7th and cash in today at AP freroll #$4//////

[Roxxyfish]

online poker in generalis rigged but good players know how to use to winning key

[MarlinsFan2212]

why would you ever want to get it in with k10 in that spot?? so stupid imo. 65 people left and youre in 5th place. theres so much tourny left to play at that point, why would you risk your tourny life on that hand? doesnt matter that youre the favorite, just a terrible risk imo.

Yeah I thought about it and I guess your kind of right. I was on the button and he was BB, so I raised to try and just steal the blinds. Got involved in a situation that was kind of unnecessary, however I did make the correct play, just got unlucky.

[AlphaOmega]

Online poker is such a scam because you do not see any cards being delt or who is controlling any of the programing behinde the software running the game. It is in the best interest of the provider to keep you playing by letting you win the small pots but if and when you have a big pot on the line you will lose. I play with fake chips on Ultimate Bet and have over a million chips I played with real money and lost almost every time I had a pot over $200 on the line what BS it is. I have turned to the local casino to play cards, get drunk, and walk out win lose or draw.

just my 3 cents take it or leave it

[andrew5]

online poker in generalis rigged but good players know how to use to winning key

u are right the new software update they changed the winning hands on bodog i got some of them i think they got bots or superaccts even on the freerolls

[daneblazer]

Good God almighty

[Roxxyfish]

even I think its rigged good players still can make profit, you just need to learn how to handle the "winning key" every poker software have

[DRZ]

[andrew5]

[andrew5]

another software update

[daneblazer]

does that mean more super users and bots will be attacking the free rolls?

[andrew5]

does that mean more super users and bots will be attacking the free rolls?

well i won't deposit so yes but i have final tabled in the sbr freeroll and placed in the $500 bodog crap shoot a couple times and pstars hubble's so i can play unless you think all sbr players suck and your the best mr poker couch. what do you work for bodog??????????
by the way i was playing sngs and they were calling with crap hands

[daneblazer]

well i won't deposit so yes but i have final tabled in the sbr freeroll and placed in the $500 bodog crap shoot a couple times and pstars hubble's so i can play unless you think all sbr players suck and your the best mr poker couch. what do you work for bodog??????????
by the way i was playing sngs and they were calling with crap hands

andrew you are probably my favorite poster on sbr

[andrew5]

andrew you are probably my favorite poster on sbr

lmao

[Fred Showpan]

Bodog is not rigged - my results in poker tracker show that over 350,000 hands played there you see the ordinary statistics as they should be in a sample that size - goes for both hole cards and # of made full housed, straights, flushes, etc.

Good site, easy players - have made pretty good money there in the 2 yrs i've been playing both cash, beginner tourns, and recently double ups for the past 6-7 months.

Good luck

[JOHON8]

Don't blame Bodog, same bad beats happen everywhere else, that's why it's smart to avoid a lot of all in situations by being more aggressive. Aggression builds you a stacksize that you can afford to fold tough spots and still have a descent size stack to survive the money.

Get used to the way Bodog users play. If they are stupid, careless and loose with their calls take advantage of that earlier when you're entire stack isn't in risk of a bad beat.

[illmatick]

love their poker room, once won 22 out of 29 heads up matches

[andrew5]

maybe its the player's. did anyone hear what daniel negreanu said about UB and phil helmuth?

[illmatick]

maybe its the player's. did anyone hear what daniel negreanu said about UB and phil helmuth?

[MadTiger]

maybe its the player's. did anyone hear what daniel negreanu said about UB and phil helmuth?

Nope. Aware us, bro.

[andrew5]

Nope. Aware us, bro.

Catching up on some poker news I came across something that, while not shocking, just makes me go hmmmm.... The Cereus Network, or UB/Absolute got hacked again! Just boggles my mind that anyone would want to support that company after what's happened, but man, you'd think they'd actually focus intently on their security since they'd be under a microscope. Apparently, from what I've heard, in order to crack their software all you needed to have was a Windows calculator! That's unreal.
About 10 years ago when the company was created I walked away from them because of Russ Hamilton's involvement. He had a checkered past, and wasn't trust worthy at all. I wanted no part of it and walked away, never having done a deal with them ever.

This company is just a bad apple in our poker community and I couldn't imagine supporting them in any way. I said this 10 years ago, and since then I've only been proven correct by the huge scandal, and then again recently when they were aware of the security hole, but chose to keep the site up and running. If you know your software can be easily hacked, isn't that the precise moment where you shut down for maintenance and fix the issue?
There may be new ownership trying to "right the ship" but how is anyone to know who's been let go from the company and who's still there from the days of the scandal?
Feels like one of those fool me once shame on you, fool me twice same on me situations. I realize that there are loads of players who wear their patches and endorse the site, but I just haven't heard any of them explain to me how they justify that endorsement in light of what happened in the past, and then what's just happened recently? Are you really OK with how this recent issue was handled?

I listened to The Poker Beat where Scott Huff said that we should talk about this stuff, and I commend him for doing so on his show. I always listen to that show, it's really good. So, as I was listening, I decided he was right. I shouldn't ignore it, I should share my thoughts on it regardless of the flack I'd receive. Being a PokerStars Team Pro obviously puts me in an awkward situation when it comes to talking about the competition, and you can obviously make the case that I have vested interest. Point taken.
Having said that, I've always been one to speak my mind and I've always spoken out against UB and my track record proves that. Long before I had any sponsorship deals, long before poker was big time, I outed the fact that UB lied to the WPT about the prize pool guarantee for their Aruba event. I never, ever attended the Aruba event despite it being on the WPT, and I could never bring myself to support them in any way.

I've spoken to, and only heard great things about their new guy Paul Leggatt, but this is a pretty big deal in my book. Dude, if you knew about this security issue, why, why, oh why didn't you shut the site down immediately to fix it? I thought about that overnight, and couldn't think of even one good reason not to shut it down until the site was secured. Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't imagine what that would be.



that is from his full contact poker blog.on poker after dark they were saying that dan said that phill has lost his skill or something i forget what was actually said i was drunk and busy at the time and missed the 1st part but they were ragging on phill the whole show

[andrew5]

another software update

lol i just got a full boat on bodog and my cards caught on fire i guess thats the new software