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    Quote Originally Posted by blankoblanco View Post
    The innately human desire to not look stupid, would be my guess. She maybe sorta realized at some point that she made the fishiest call ever, but since it somehow worked, she'd rather try to justify it and say she read him like a book. Most people would rather look smart than dumb. And they'll lie in your face if they think it accomplishes that end. That's just how many people are wired. Not to make this political, but Donald Trump comes to mind..



    I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but did you consider asking the question the opposite way? Why would she give the money back if she was cheating? You cheat because you're greedy, and precedent says the law won't punish you for cheating in a poker game. You cheat because you think you can leave that casino with the money with total immunity. You don't cheat to give the money back

    I think it's very possible she felt overwhelmed by the response to her terrible call, felt embarrassed, doesn't care that much about the money and wanted to fix it and be able to stay in the game. If she was cheating, she's under too much of a microscope to ever get away with it in the long-term, so giving back the money to stay in the game wouldn't be a good move either
    when you are cheating the objective is not to get caught. if you realize you got caught then you would probably try to appease the person you cheated and give up on the profit. also, as i mentioned before, the main penalty for cheating is lawsuits. if you give back the money then what grounds can they sue you for? there are no monetary damages. it looks like postle lost his money from having to pay for his and other ppls lawyers when he sued for defamation since they were frivolous lawsuits.

    i would like to know her interaction with garrett in the "dark hallway". if garrett is lying and he was threatening and asked her to give him the money back then i would be more inclined to believe she didnt cheat. but if she was the one who volunteered the money and garrett didnt do anything outrageous i think she is cheating since she is basically lying about everything so far.

    i highly doubt she got intimidated into giving him the money because she wanted him to come back and play according to ppl commentating on this. explain to me what type of person would actively try to get someone to keep playing poker with them if they were terrified of them and that person might make them give back any money that they won in the future?

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    You guys are still wondering what happened? She is a horrible poker player that got lucky or she cheated. If she cheated she could see his cards (with the help of the card cam?). It happened to a Jew. No Jew makes a J high call. Your ignoring the fact that it happened to a Jew. It was a chick and a Jew in a hand. The Jew pushed with a come and missed. The chick can see his cards or not much of a chance the deck is stacked is the only way to cheat here. He still has a good chance at hitting this hand. An all around bad hand played on her part. The Jew got looked up. Quit fookn ignoring the Jew aspect of the hand. I know your generation doesn't have the ability to bring a thing like being a Jew into an equation. it is the only reason it is getting run. When the Jews were the ones cheating the Poker world wasn't this much coverage!!! SEE??? If she returned the doe to the crying Jew, she did it to save faced for a horrible play. Can't say she cheated from what I saw. If ya played in Cleveland you know what I mean. You get so far into a hand ya keep with your thought of looking a guy up. I won hands with 9 and 10 high. You haven't??? Then you suck at the game and have no balls. Jews will never call an all in with J high. The GAME is called HOLD EM'! You play high card once in awhile. Reading someone sets the great ones form the average ones. This chick doesn't seem great. She had a smell and went through with it. Something squeeze box pucie fooks will "NEVER" do. This will never be a proven case of cheating. Dumb bitch playing poker against a cry baby Jew that got looked up.PERIOD All your theory crap. Give me a break. Learn the game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandt Moat View Post
    You guys are still wondering what happened? She is a horrible poker player that got lucky or she cheated. If she cheated she could see his cards (with the help of the card cam?). It happened to a Jew. No Jew makes a J high call. Your ignoring the fact that it happened to a Jew. It was a chick and a Jew in a hand. The Jew pushed with a come and missed. The chick can see his cards or not much of a chance the deck is stacked is the only way to cheat here. He still has a good chance at hitting this hand. An all around bad hand played on her part. The Jew got looked up. Quit fookn ignoring the Jew aspect of the hand. I know your generation doesn't have the ability to bring a thing like being a Jew into an equation. it is the only reason it is getting run. When the Jews were the ones cheating the Poker world wasn't this much coverage!!! SEE??? If she returned the doe to the crying Jew, she did it to save faced for a horrible play. Can't say she cheated from what I saw. If ya played in Cleveland you know what I mean. You get so far into a hand ya keep with your thought of looking a guy up. I won hands with 9 and 10 high. You haven't??? Then you suck at the game and have no balls. Jews will never call an all in with J high. The GAME is called HOLD EM'! You play high card once in awhile. Reading someone sets the great ones form the average ones. This chick doesn't seem great. She had a smell and went through with it. Something squeeze box pucie fooks will "NEVER" do. This will never be a proven case of cheating. Dumb bitch playing poker against a cry baby Jew that got looked up.PERIOD All your theory crap. Give me a break. Learn the game!
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    I am German/Irish. I am a realist. Not a racist. But, say and do what ya want. I do. How much run did the Jew cheating get when they cheated the poker society? Minimal!! That's the facts. Fook Aldelstein. Fook the ******. It's a game. If it's that corrupt-quit playing. Real easy dipshiots.
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    I don't see cheating.

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    Buzzer hidden in vagina signaled her

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    This was actually huge advertising for the Hustler Casino and it live stream. I mean who actually watched this shit before this weekend? Now a lot of people will watch and that will generate some ad revenue and some might want to come play live action that wouldnt normally play.


    Just imagine if everyone was in on this whole thing

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    If you watch the first 10 min of the full stream from HCL, you will see the floorman Loui setup the table alone. He pulls out his cell phone and turns to his left into an awkward position where his left hand and phone go out of camera view. He then picks up his coffee with his right hand, lifts the cup slightly and you can see him using and looking at his phone underneath. He never sips his coffee and puts it back down (as if to be ready to sip it if someone sees him). After he completes whatever he did with his phone, he puts the coffee back down and phone into his pocket.

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    After this, RIP (Robbi's backer) comes in and first bumps Loui the floorman as they are friends. Loui spreads out the seat draw cards and RIP pulls the closest card but doesnt flip it over, just puts it aside. He then flips over the 2nd closest card and draws the 7 seat. Loui then holds the 1st card that RIP pulled and keeps it face down against the felt while mixing the other cards for the next draw. He is making sure he can control that first card. Robbi comes up and Loui spreads out the cards to her. But that card he was controlling ends up in the same location which is closest to Robbi. She pulls that same card and flips it to take the 2 seat. This is at least a 3man cheat scam.

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    My theory is the floorman hacked the shuffle machine so it can be read by someone remotely and then signal Robbi. RIP is there to help collude action whenever necessary to isolate someone or to help fold out people they dont want in the pot. Might have to be a 4 man scam.

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    10 bet points from Optional??? For this post.hmm Is this libtards doing what I think they are doing? No please don't kick me out for disagreeing with your pucie ways! You powerful never to be beat fookn pucies. Only got a month and things will start to change back to the pucie grabbing, racist ways of the WHITE MAN!! We own you, we are the only reason you can live the way you are living. We built it. We won wars to keep it. You dipshiots had it the whip for less then 6 months before it started falling apart. WEAK people are NOT meant to lead. So, continue on your pucie ways. I will continue on my successful and prosperorus life of vacationing and relaxing. Losing my tan from Destin. Might need to hit an island retreat. Won't see you broke dioks there. You are spending your money on taxes to keep those coveted brothers in clothes and food.lol

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    Nice breakdown. But, how many hands did they play before the so called scam? Those machines are not capable of situating cards a certain way. You are saying somehow a stacked deck was inserted into the machine pre scam hand? Possible. With all that said, how do they know how he is going to play his draw? That's the real question. I did see someone say he was aggressive. My last point would be this. If I was the ring leader of this scam, I would put forth a better stacked deck then calling a guys all-in with J high. Right? Why stack a deck a guy is going to have to bet a come while a chick is calling him down with J high on a streaming show? Stack a deck with a guy with a made hand that will for sure bet it and have her catch a card to win it. huh huh Isn't this a better way of "NOT" raising too much suspicion? Think about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by eddycash View Post
    My theory is the floorman hacked the shuffle machine so it can be read by someone remotely and then signal Robbi. RIP is there to help collude action whenever necessary to isolate someone or to help fold out people they dont want in the pot. Might have to be a 4 man scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itsamazing777 View Post
    Buzzer hidden in vagina signaled her
    I doubt it... her ben wa balls would have started jingling -- due to the buzzing reverberating off of them -- so loudly the whole table could have heard the commotion coming from her box...... she probably had it stuffed up her ass (why she was fidgeting so much while seated at the table)......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandt Moat View Post
    10 bet points from Optional??? For this post.hmm Is this libtards doing what I think they are doing? No please don't kick me out for disagreeing with your pucie ways! You powerful never to be beat fookn pucies. Only got a month and things will start to change back to the pucie grabbing, racist ways of the WHITE MAN!! We own you, we are the only reason you can live the way you are living. We built it. We won wars to keep it. You dipshiots had it the whip for less then 6 months before it started falling apart. WEAK people are NOT meant to lead. So, continue on your pucie ways. I will continue on my successful and prosperorus life of vacationing and relaxing. Losing my tan from Destin. Might need to hit an island retreat. Won't see you broke dioks there. You are spending your money on taxes to keep those coveted brothers in clothes and food.lol
    I'm no libtard, but just found your anti-jew rant hysterical, reminding me of a friend of mine in high school who blamed "the jewish porno plan" for all the world's ills.....

    and, I like screaming out "beware jew" randomly throughout the day.......


    translates differently on google:





    phrase always stuck with me back in high school, after being forced to watch those old black and white movies about WWII in world history, and seeing it scrawled on buildings as tanks were rolling by.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandt Moat View Post
    Nice breakdown. But, how many hands did they play before the so called scam? Those machines are not capable of situating cards a certain way. You are saying somehow a stacked deck was inserted into the machine pre scam hand? Possible. With all that said, how do they know how he is going to play his draw? That's the real question. I did see someone say he was aggressive. My last point would be this. If I was the ring leader of this scam, I would put forth a better stacked deck then calling a guys all-in with J high. Right? Why stack a deck a guy is going to have to bet a come while a chick is calling him down with J high on a streaming show? Stack a deck with a guy with a made hand that will for sure bet it and have her catch a card to win it. huh huh Isn't this a better way of "NOT" raising too much suspicion? Think about it.
    I theorize that it's more tech advanced than a stacked deck. Some sort of trojan file to connect the shuffle machine reader to the rfid info in order to distinguish each card to the assigned rfid number. Since the cheat team is possibly unable to get the programmed info from the server, they probably need to attack the shuffle machine.

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    a guy working on the production of the show took 15k from her stack after the show that night and robbi doesnt want to press charges against him.


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    so she released a statement about why she wasnt pressing charges against a guy who stole from her. she couldnt recall having met Bryan Sagbigsal when told who he was even though she followed him on twitter. she didnt want to damage the young man's life since he was young, had minimal funds and no prior history of prior offenses. the guy already spent the money too. she is just so generous!




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    She's too dumb to cheat.

    Besides, what exactly did she cheat? Even after the call, she was a dog to win the hand. So are we saying that she knew not only his hold cards, but also the river card coming? She knew it all? Because otherwise, if she only knew his hole cards, then why would she stay in after the flop. She was a 70% dog.

    She's just dumb and misread/misplayed the hand, and then got lucky. And then got even dumber giving him half the money back.

    And if she had all this intel and was gonna cheat, why choose that hand, unless she literally knew every card in play and what was gonna come. Just not buying that.

    And I didn't see the whole thing, but if she knew everything, then why didn't she apparently cheat on prior hands that might have been more sure things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    She's too dumb to cheat.

    Besides, what exactly did she cheat? Even after the call, she was a dog to win the hand. So are we saying that she knew not only his hold cards, but also the river card coming? She knew it all? Because otherwise, if she only knew his hole cards, then why would she stay in after the flop. She was a 70% dog.

    She's just dumb and misread/misplayed the hand, and then got lucky. And then got even dumber giving him half the money back.

    And if she had all this intel and was gonna cheat, why choose that hand, unless she literally knew every card in play and what was gonna come. Just not buying that.

    And I didn't see the whole thing, but if she knew everything, then why didn't she apparently cheat on prior hands that might have been more sure things?
    i dont think ppl think that she knew the cards. the guy who took money off her stack works in the booth with other ppl so he has to signal her secretly without them noticing. thats why shes tanking so long waiting for him when in big hands. on some other streams she didnt tank at all before she started cheating. ppl think she only cheated occasionally when she was in a big pot with a hard decision and she only knew if she was good or not and not what the other cards were.

    the 4 of hearts and the 6 of clubs were not reading properly and had to be switched out. so the guy in the booth might have thought she had j6 of clubs. this would make her around a 72.73% favorite depending on what other ppl had that folded.


    i dont know if u heard about the chess cheating alegation with the vibrating anal beads. but this same guy was asking on twitter a week before the alleged poker cheating about how they cheated in the chess match.

    also she was being staked by another guy at the table who was friends the floor man at the game. who would stake some newbie poker player like her in high stakes cash for hundreds of thousands? maybe he was sleeping with her but still.

    then she made that really crazy play and when called on it she was just so nice to give the money back so the other guy wasnt upset and would keep playing. this was money that wasnt even hers since she was staked.

    then she lied about misreading her hand several times and lied about being garrett intimidating her for the money. then some "stranger" that she follows on twitter stole 15k from her and already lost the money but she is just so nice that she doesnt want to charge him since his is young, poor, and has no criminal history the cops told her. now we find out he does have a criminal history and would the cops tell her his finances or even know his finances? so she most likely lied again.

    to me its way more likely that she is a cheater than all of these weird coincidences happening.

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    The staff guy taking money from her stack adds a huge layer of weirdness to the case. Previously I was like 60/40 that she didn't cheat, now I'm maybe 70/30 that she did. Her saying nonsensical things about her hand, giving back the money, etc. all seemed reasonably in the range of an intimidated fish who didn't really care about the money. But now it's getting a bit too strange, too many things adding up

    It's pretty mindblowing how bad at cheating you have to be to play that hand that way though...

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    maybe she didnt cheat and she is just the nicest person you will ever meet. but she doesnt seem nice when i hear her interact with ppl. needling garrett after the hand and then she called in to a stream that haralabos was on and was just constantly making fun of his name for no reason since he was polite the whole time. it was bizarre. she always acts like she is so rich and she doesnt care about money but she wasnt rich enough to even play with her own money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blankoblanco View Post
    The staff guy taking money from her stack adds a huge layer of weirdness to the case. Previously I was like 60/40 that she didn't cheat, now I'm maybe 70/30 that she did. Her saying nonsensical things about her hand, giving back the money, etc. all seemed reasonably in the range of an intimidated fish who didn't really care about the money. But now it's getting a bit too strange, too many things adding up

    It's pretty mindblowing how bad at cheating you have to be to play that hand that way though...
    Or a part of a scam she is not funding, so the playing money is not on her mind.

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    This cheat crew might be the dumbest team in the history of thievery.

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    Garret just posted the Hammer report on these scumbags.
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    I challenge anyone here to read that dissertation and QUOTE one line that you think is actual evidence.

    I do not see a single piece of actual evidence.

    Even the speculation is pretty thin.


    And if you plan to trash people as scammers, maybe provide some actual evidence for that too. Better evidence than just saying "people have said he is king scammer of KC".



    Seriously, if someone here thinks that is evidence, I'd love to see one line of that massive speculative piece you consider as evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I challenge anyone here to read that dissertation and QUOTE one line that you think is actual evidence.

    I do not see a single piece of actual evidence.

    Even the speculation is pretty thin.


    And if you plan to trash people as scammers, maybe provide some actual evidence for that too. Better evidence than just saying "people have said he is king scammer of KC".



    Seriously, if someone here thinks that is evidence, I'd love to see one line of that massive speculative piece you consider as evidence.
    I don't see any 100% proof but a lot of coincidences, changed stories and checkered pasts of those under the microscope.

    I thought she cheated from day 1 and still believe that.

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    Not really a fan of Doug Polk and rarely watch his videos but saw this and wanted to hear his opinion on the matter and he brings some interesting things to light...



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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    I don't see any 100% proof but a lot of coincidences, changed stories and checkered pasts of those under the microscope.

    I thought she cheated from day 1 and still believe that.
    I have been super sus of Gman since day one, as well as thinking her play was too weird to ignore.

    That "report" he posted on 2+2 reeks of desperation to support his actions that day to me.

    I spent over 20 years interviewing people, taking statements and writing reports for attorneys and that guys initial reaction and this "report" he put together set off more red flags than she does to me. My BS meter is at 11 for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I have been super sus of Gman since day one, as well as thinking her play was too weird to ignore.

    That "report" he posted on 2+2 reeks of desperation to support his actions that day to me.

    I spent over 20 years interviewing people, taking statements and writing reports for attorneys and that guys initial reaction and this "report" he put together set off more red flags than she does to me. My BS meter is at 11 for him.
    as far as i know, his reputation is spotless and has been in the public eye for years...

    I'm willing to change my stance depending on what else comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    as far as i know, his reputation is spotless and has been in the public eye for years...

    I'm willing to change my stance depending on what else comes out.
    That report is enough for me to say his reputation should not be spotless.

    Genuine and honest people do not throw around so much speculation like that without backing it up.

    I think from experience I can say with some confidence that Garrett is not an honest person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    That report is enough for me to say his reputation should not be spotless.

    Genuine and honest people do not throw around so much speculation like that without backing it up.

    I think from experience I can say with some confidence that Garrett is not an honest person.
    Not sure I agree with you but not certain obviously...let's see what else come out.
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    I dont know that much about this but watched the video jake posted, I don't understand why this guy that works in the back has his hands on her chips? To take the 15k. Im sure I missed something in that part!

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