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    Another poker controversy on the horizon

    Joey Ingram is saying on Twitter that another poker controversy is on the horizon. Doesn’t expect it to be as big as Mike Postle, but still a controversy.

    Speaking of Postle....whatever happened to that story?

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    A Postle update would be good.
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    Any hints? Is the new scandal online or live?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    Any hints? Is the new scandal online or live?
    Supposedly has to do with Triton. My guess would be the fish like Perkins weren't aware that other players were swapping action and colluding against them. Seemed pretty obvious to those in the know.

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    Update to Postle case, article is from 3 days ago


    Judge William B. Shubb allowed defendants Mike Postle (pictured, left), Stones Gambling Hall, and tournament director Justin Kuraitis (pictured, right) to defend their motions earlier this week to dismiss a multi-million dollar civil lawsuit filed against them arising from the biggest cheating scandal to hit livestreamed poker.
    The oral arguments shed some light on the major points in the case, and also highlighted the complexities of the game itself, which posed a major challenge for VerStandig as the judge admitted he has little knowledge on how things work at the poker tables.
    Hearing Tackles Alleged Damages

    Among the main points contested in the hearing was the issue about damages. Mao and Pachter maintained that gambling losses are too speculative, and that the plaintiffs failed to provide specific, concrete proof to support their claims that cheating actually occurred.
    VerStandig argued they were able to determine the damages by calculating the rake, and reviewing livestream footage and hand replays. Judge Shubb seemed confused at this point, and VerStandig was compelled to explain further, providing more clarity on how software and technology can enable cheating, such as the case involving Postle and his alleged confederate, where confidential info was allegedly transmitted from the production booth to Postle’s mobile phone.


    The gaming attorney also insisted they have full details in relation to the players and the hands involved, to prove that cheating took place, but responses from the judge indicated he had little understanding of the game’s technicalities. He maintained that a clear layout of damages should be presented. VerStandig said it will be explained further later in the process.
    Mao and Pachter also insisted that there’s no precedent to support the lawsuit and that previous case laws show gambling losses don’t have a legal remedy.
    No Substantial Words From Mike Postle

    Interestingly, Mike Postle chose to stay silent throughout the hearing. At the beginning, when Judge Shubb asked Postle if he understood the arguments in his motion to dismiss, the player simply said he’d do the best he could.
    Later, when the judge gave him the chance to answer the plaintiffs’ claims and defend his arguments, Postle only replied with a guarded statement, “I’m good for now“. It’s actually a wise move for him, as the proceedings required a high level of legal understanding, and admittedly, Postle has no legal background whatsoever to be able to correctly answer tough questions from the judge.
    Arguments from all parties are now being considered by the judge, with a ruling out at a future date.

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    Still nothing official out yet...

    https://casinonewsblogger.com/bill-p...ating-scandal/



    Also seeing rumors that Perkins has taken money to keep quiet....so this may never come to light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpaschal34 View Post
    Still nothing official out yet...

    https://casinonewsblogger.com/bill-p...ating-scandal/



    Also seeing rumors that Perkins has taken money to keep quiet....so this may never come to light.
    The one guy on that Top7 list w/ checkered past is Bonomo. Some years ago, he multi-accounted some tournaments.

    On WSOP, Norman Chad noted this. Chad said that minimum penalty should be one year ban from participating in Wsop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    The one guy on that Top7 list w/ checkered past is Bonomo. Some years ago, he multi-accounted some tournaments.

    On WSOP, Norman Chad noted this. Chad said that minimum penalty should be one year ban from participating in Wsop.
    Is the WSOP SITE an honest site.?. Does anyone have any thoughts on this.?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slewfan View Post
    Is the WSOP SITE an honest site.?. Does anyone have any thoughts on this.?.
    Yes, that is why I linked my bank acct with them. Keep in mind that this is not an offshore book. They are owned by Caesars and have numerous brick and mortar casinos in the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mpaschal34 View Post
    Still nothing official out yet...
    https://casinonewsblogger.com/bill-p...ating-scandal/
    Also seeing rumors that Perkins has taken money to keep quiet....so this may never come to light.
    Am generally skeptical of folks who announce they have some huge news (whatever the context), but refuse to say what it is, giving you the whole "you'll find out soon" blah blah line.

    Generally got the sense that they enjoyed the attention they received from saying that - e.g. people asking them personally "ohh what's the big news" and such and them feeling powerful in refusing to say in the sense of "haha I know something big that you don't know".

    To me it's pretty simple: if you have some big news that you want/is going to be announced, then announce it if you are comfortable with doing so. If you are not, then be quiet about it until you are comfortable doing so/it comes out via some other way. But none of these drama games imo.

    And the fact that what they've hinted at, as other folks have tweeted back, doesn't sound anywhere near the Postle drama lends more credence to this.

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