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    Poker-Playing A.I. likes to bluff, but has few tells

    Today begins week three of the poker tournament between Libratus, an AI system built by researchers from Carnegie Mellon University, and four of the world’s top pros. While the humans plan to soldier on, a gallows humor has taken hold. With a little over 80,000 hands played, out of 120,000 total, the humans are down by roughly $750,000, a massive amount that will be all but impossible to come back from.


    http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/25/14...s-human-losing

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    The humans better call Biter.... he's the only one who can consistently demolish a programmed computer poker game....

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    Hopefully, this will be used as evidence by the PPA that skill is, in the long run, the main factor (excepting SBR high rake software)

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    I have watched some of these videos.

    Doug Polk may be bit of a prick. Very good poker-player, tho.

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    have you seen the AI pokerbot they're up against????

    it certainly didn't help the pros out any, the way the company "packaged" the AI bot.....

    here the damn thing is, plugged into the corner, recharging, during a break:


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    lol wtf

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    Game of chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Game of chance
    Yeah, the AI is crushing 3 out of 4 top online pros, must be getting lucky

    The real lesson from this exercise is never play Dong Kim in any form of poker if you value money. He gave some back yesterday but is still hanging in there against this bot.


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    figures the only f'ker that could beat the AI computer would be a Dong......

    shit, maybe Waves actually is a good online player:

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    it's mostly luck but if you play enough hands, the skill element asserts itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    it's mostly luck but if you play enough hands, the skill element asserts itself.
    ie the game theory optimal program destroying 4 highly successful online players over a 120k observation sample.

    "Statistical significanceThe winnings from each pair of mirrored hands are added together and considered to be one observation. If after 120,000 hands either Libratus or the humans are one standard deviation above break-even, they shall have won the competition with statistical significance."


    Might as well post the official site and a little background for anyone who wants to follow along

    https://www.riverscasino.com/pittsburgh/BrainsVsAI/

    CAN THE WORLD’S TOP PROFESSIONAL POKER PLAYERS BEAT LIBRATUS, THE WORLD’S BEST COMPUTER POKER PLAYER?
    Libratus is an artificial intelligence (AI) program for playing Heads-Up, No-Limit Texas Hold’em. It was developed at Carnegie Mellon University’s School of Computer Science by Prof. Tuomas Sandholm and Ph.D. student Noam Brown. Libratus’s strategy is not based on the experience of expert human players, so its game play could differ markedly from the pros. It uses algorithms to analyze the rules of poker and set its own strategy, based on approximately 15 million core hours of computation at the Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center (PSC).

    Libratus will continuously sharpen its strategy during the Brains vs. AI competition, performing computations with the PSC’s Bridges computer each night while the pros get some shuteye. During games, Bridges will perform live computations to aid Libratus with its end-game play. The algorithms that created Libratus are not specific to poker. The AI’s ability to reason when faced with incomplete or misleading information have a wide range of possible applications, including business negotiation, medicine, cybersecurity, auctions and more. Carnegie Mellon is a leading center for artificial intelligence research, with pioneering breakthroughs in self-driving cars, computer vision, automated translation, market design and machine learning.

    CMU’s DNA can be found in the Deep Blue program that defeated a chess grandmaster in 1997, the Watson AI that beat Jeopardy! champions in 2011, and Apple’s Siri digital assistant. Prof. Sandholm’s work has also included designing and fielding tens of billions of dollars of combinatorial sourcing auctions, and his optimization software runs the nationwide kidney exchange for UNOS.

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    Dong breaking down against our new AI poker god.

    I didn't want to believe the rumors but it's become clear that SBR poster GUMMO77 was indeed invited to work with Carnegie Mellon's advanced poker bot lab and has in fact perfected his bot masterpiece, what we now know as Libratus. Time to move on to high stakes yahtzee because poker is dead as we know it.

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    what was the incentive for the pros to do this?

    obviously humans aren't going to beat a computer over a significant sample size. That applies to poker and that applied to chess. Chess it just took some tweaking to the supercomputer but after a few years it had far outstripped any human.

    Heck, they did it with Jeopardy. They finally programmed Watson to understand Trebek's queries, which was the only problem.

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    I'd like to think they're doing it to defend the human race from this new artificially intelligent threat to our universe, but it's probably the $200k they're splitting based on results.

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    I wonder if the computer gets to know what the player's cards were after the computer folds.

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    Anything that requires decision making would be better made by AI. Pretty simple concept. Not shocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by TPowell View Post
    Anything that requires decision making would be better made by AI. Pretty simple concept. Not shocking
    WTF are u doing here?
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    just ratchet up the aggressiveness should have been the plan.... at this rate they needed to double up time and time again.....

    beat this bluffin' piece of shit junkbox at its own game.....

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