[Grivas_Digeni]

First off, I still owe around 1000 500 points for the previous round of bookmaking (and I have made arrangements with a teammate to help me avoid any payout hiccups in the future).

So don't be surprised if this time lines will be a little harder to beat. If you don't like the vigorish I charge - beat it! I could promise to 'buy points if I lose' but I won't. I'm asking that you wait if you win more than I can pay off quickly, and will have no problem waiting until you pay up, should you lose. Forget that, everyone needs to post up or be limited immediately (to half the maximum stake).

I didn't do a good enough job of managing my risks in the regular season betting threads (bravo, yisman!) but I expect a better performance this time - both at poker and taking your bet points, my dear customers.

#1 TEAM TO WIN THE WORLD CUP-2016

-333 TEAM USA (others on request)
+210 FIELD


#2 TEAM TO PLACE HIGHER IN THE FINALS

+110 TEAM WORLD
- 150 TEAM CANADA


#3 TEAM TO PLACE HIGHER IN THE FINALS

-700 TEAM USA
+420 TEAM CONFEDERATES


#4 TEAM TO PLACE LAST IN THE FINALS

+130 TEAM WORLD
+190 TEAM CONFEDERATES
+230 TEAM CANADA
+1500 TEAM USA

Additionally, if you want to bet on yourself to win OVER a certain number of points (2 for first, 1 for second in each individual Finals match), make me an offer and I'll try to accommodate.

- Max bet 50 bet points (risk/to win)

- No post up necessary, but you will be paid sooner if you do.

- READ POST #6 RE: POSTING UP. IT'S JUST 5 DAYS SO PLEASE PUT THE FUKKIN CASH DOWN

- I AM PUTTING EVERY POINT I MAKE in World Cup prizes (from 750 to 10000) into paying everyone off, A.S.A.P. Unless my team wins the Cup, I'll get poker points. In this case I will roll everything over before May 5th and then distribute the resulting bet points to winners.

- Also, every point I generate going forward will be spent the same way. I will first pay off winners who post up on these Finals bets, then winners of my 'regular season' threads who didn't post up, then winners of this thread who don't post up. Rest assured that everyone will get paid in due time.

- Lastly, I am looking for a backer to borrow 1000 points from, to pay off the four players I still owe for the previous bets (multiple threads, betting on 'regular season' World Cup standings). You will get back 1100 plus 10% profit I make on this round of WC Finals bookmaking. If I happen to lose money again, you only get 1100 back (no liability for my loss, just a free roll on the win)

[aggieshawn]

+420 confeds over USA - 21 points

[slikec]

#1 TEAM TO WIN THE WORLD CUP-2016

+210 FIELD 50points


#2 TEAM TO PLACE HIGHER IN THE FINALS

+110 TEAM WORLD 50points

Would hammer against USA at those odds far more if i could. They dont deserve so much respect :P

[Grivas_Digeni]

quick update before I sleep:


#1 TEAM TO WIN THE WORLD CUP-2016 (ONE bet booked)

-300 TEAM USA (others on request)
+190 FIELD


#2 TEAM TO PLACE HIGHER IN THE FINALS (ONE bet booked, for which I have no respect lol)

+110 TEAM WORLD
- 150 TEAM CANADA


#3 TEAM TO PLACE HIGHER IN THE FINALS

- 620 TEAM USA
+370 TEAM CONFEDERATES (ONE bet booked)


#4 TEAM TO PLACE LAST IN THE FINALS

+100 TEAM WORLD
+190 TEAM CONFEDERATES
+330 TEAM CANADA
+1500 TEAM USA

[Grivas_Digeni]

As you can see I'm pretty high on Canada and USA. The reason I am THIS low on my own team is I'd like to semi-hedge. So I'll gladly take action on any other team to place last at inflated odds. Hurry up before bobbywaves sees this +330 on Canada!

[Grivas_Digeni]

And a quick rule update, following advice of a teammate and a savvy gambler. I will only allow HALF the maximum for any bet that is not prepaid, effective immediately. This only applies to bets accepted in 'away' mode, like the first three bets from two players above.

Unless you are owed for 'regular season' bets (i.e. your name is astros61200, Dipper30, slikec, spider or yisman), I will only accept half the maximum bet from you in 'away mode' (automatically) UNLESS you post up 100% of what you risk.

And again, if you beat my soft lines during the regular season and never posted up, you'll be the last in line to be paid. Yes, I'm not an A+ book. Yet.

[mr. leisure]

-300 TEAM USA (others on request)
+190 FIELD

I will post up , can I get the field for 20 points ?

[Grivas_Digeni]

You can have 20 points without posting up. The maximum is 50, more than twice your bet.

Feel free to post up though!

[mr. leisure]

You can have 20 points without posting up. The maximum is 50, more than twice your bet.

Feel free to post up though!

In thanks !

[JAKEPEAVY21]

+210 FIELD



+420 TEAM CONFEDERATES




+1500 TEAM USA



risk 50 on all 3

[Grivas_Digeni]

#5 - NEW! H2H Who will score more points in the four Finals matches? NEW!

-120 JAKEPEAVY21 (USA)
-120 Grivas_Digeni (WORLD)

Maximum 50 points. Bet away!

[Grivas_Digeni]

+210 FIELD



+420 TEAM CONFEDERATES




+1500 TEAM USA



risk 50 on all 3

It's +190 and +370 on the first two.

Can give you +1700 on the last one though. You still want to play?

[JAKEPEAVY21]

It's +180 and +370 on the first two.

Can give you +1700 on the last one though. You still want to play?

my post was a minute before you posted the updated odds

[Grivas_Digeni]

Odds change after each bet, pretty much, as long as I'm here and monitor things. A minute before you bet, I was just posting an update which included a +190 to +180 move following that last 20 point bet, and prop bet #5 (lol what a coincidence that YOU wanted to bet at this very moment!)

....but +210 and +420 were gone a long time ago (see posts #2 and #3). Tighter line management this time. I understand if you want to pass. The best I can do is +190, +370, +1700

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Grivas PM me if you need some financial backing here......you have more rules than my accountant

[JAKEPEAVY21]

I'll pass on principle...my wager was posted before any update

[Grivas_Digeni]

No bet but you may change you mind if you review the time stamps. This is clearly a misunderstanding since mrleisure (and I would assume almost everyone else) understands what I mean by 'an update'.


05:19pm - aggieshawn bets the +420 line
05:21pm - slikec bets the +210 line
06:43pm - I post an update moving both lines to +370 and +190 respectively (notice post #6 is unedited)
07:04pm - mr. leisure bets the +190 line (notice how +210 isn't even mentioned, as it shouldn't because it's been bet down already)
07:46pm - your bet

[JAKEPEAVY21]

ok my bad

[Grivas_Digeni]

ok my bad

+190, +370 and +1800 is my final offer Valid only until 2H of this NBA game begins

[JAKEPEAVY21]

+190, +370 and +1800 is my final offer Valid only until 2H of this NBA game begins

alright bets are ON

[aggieshawn]

+330 TEAM CANADA
+1500 TEAM USA

50 points on each

29 points on Confed to beat USA at +370

50 points on Jake to beat Gervis at -120 (tie = push)

[Grivas_Digeni]

3 bets accepted! Final update before zzzzzz time

and 3 more bets accepted! (on the condition they are posted up before the Finals begin on Monday... talking to you aggieshawn!)


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#1 TEAM TO WIN THE WORLD CUP-2016 (THREE bets booked)

- 200 TEAM USA
+150 FIELD


#2 TEAM TO PLACE HIGHER IN THE FINALS (ONE bet booked)

+110 TEAM WORLD
- 150 TEAM CANADA


#3 TEAM TO PLACE HIGHER IN THE FINALS (THREE bets booked)

- 370 TEAM USA
+250 TEAM CONFEDERATES


#4 TEAM TO PLACE LAST IN THE FINALS (TWO bets booked)

+120 TEAM WORLD
+220 TEAM CONFEDERATES
+290 TEAM CANADA
+900 TEAM USA

#5 - H2H Who will score more points in the four Finals matches (ties push) (ONE bet booked)

-150 JAKEPEAVY21 (USA)
+110 Grivas_Digeni (WORLD)

Maximum 50 points. Bet away!

[mpaschal34]

50 on each

#1 Field +150
#3 Confeds +250
#4 Team USA +900

I hope I lose all 3.

[yisman]

1field +150 risking 50
2confeds +250 risking 50
jakepeavy -150, risking 45 to win 30

usa finishes last +900, risking 8

[Grivas_Digeni]

3+4 bets accepted. yisman please check the previous thread and tell me how much I owe for that 56 point bet you made a while ago, I'd like to settle up.

[Grivas_Digeni]

Betting is now reopened with a double the maximums.

100 maximum, risk on dogs/to win on favorites. Unless you post up, you are still limited to 25 max.

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#1 TEAM TO WIN THE WORLD CUP-2016 (FIVE bets booked)

- 170 TEAM USA
+125 FIELD


#2 TEAM TO PLACE HIGHER IN THE FINALS (ONE bet booked)

+120 TEAM WORLD (lower juice now)
- 150 TEAM CANADA


#3 TEAM TO PLACE HIGHER IN THE FINALS (FIVE bets booked)

- 250 TEAM USA
+160 TEAM CONFEDERATES


#4 TEAM TO PLACE LAST IN THE FINALS (FOUR bets booked)

+130 TEAM WORLD
+240 TEAM CONFEDERATES
+350 TEAM CANADA
+500 TEAM USA

#5 - H2H Who will score more points in the four Finals matches (ties push) (TWO bets booked)

-170 JAKEPEAVY21 (USA)
+125 Grivas_Digeni (WORLD)

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Jakey -170 to win 100 H2H vs Grivas in most points........posted

[downsouth]

100 on field at +125

[Grivas_Digeni]

two more bets booked!

100 maximum, risk on dogs/to win on favorites. Unless you post up, you are still limited to 25 max.

current lines:
#1 TEAM TO WIN THE WORLD CUP-2016 (SIX bets booked)

- 150 TEAM USA
+110 FIELD


#2 TEAM TO PLACE HIGHER IN THE FINALS (ONE bet booked)

+120 TEAM WORLD (lower juice now)
- 150 TEAM CANADA


#3 TEAM TO PLACE HIGHER IN THE FINALS (FIVE bets booked)

- 250 TEAM USA
+160 TEAM CONFEDERATES


#4 TEAM TO PLACE LAST IN THE FINALS (FOUR bets booked)

+130 TEAM WORLD
+240 TEAM CONFEDERATES
+350 TEAM CANADA
+500 TEAM USA

#5 - H2H Who will score more points in the four Finals matches (ties push) (THREE bets booked)

- 200 JAKEPEAVY21 (USA)
+150 Grivas_Digeni (WORLD)

[mpaschal34]

can i put another 150 on each.

1. Field plus +110
3. Confeds +160
4. Team USA +500

If not, just send the points back.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

sorry about this misunderstanding, grivas

I copy/pasted from post#1 and did not even look down in the thread to see that you had adjusted the odds

I was in the wrong, my apologies bud

[JAKEPEAVY21]

adding 50 on grivas+125

[AUSTINRUSSELL]

#1 Field +150
#3 Confeds +250

100 on each.

[Slanina]

What are the current odds on "The field" or did it close?

[AUSTINRUSSELL]

Oh my apologizes my field bet should be at +110