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    Tote Pool for Tuesday SBR Poker World Cup Action

    Which Team Will Take Home Most of the 12K Points on Tuesday?


    Nominate your team and add as many points as you like to this post.

    100% of pool distributed amongst winning pickers.

    In case of a tie, pool split between all winners.



    Current Dividends per Point Wagered

    USA 1.13 (-750)
    Canada 3.25 (+225)
    Europe 4.00 (+300)
    World 4.00 (+300)

    Current Pool Size: 350 points



    Tote closes at 12 noon ET

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    Current Approx Dividends per Point Wagered

    USA 1.32 (-312)
    Canada 3.22 (+222)
    Europe 4.00 (+300)
    World 4.00 (+300)

    Pool Size: 833 points

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    10 mins to get on!




    Current Approx Dividends per Point Wagered

    USA 2.24 (+124) 483 points bet
    Canada 3.07 (+207) 290 points
    Europe 3.34 (+234) 230 points
    World 4.00 (+300) 80 points

    Pool Size: 1083 points

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    Final Payout Table





    good luck all

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    Yis and try covering all the bases

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    opti, my final bet amounts


    50 on US
    25 on world
    75 on Europe

    (thought we were using traditional tote where my US bet wouldn't pay out much, so I cut down the US bet)

    nothing on canada

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    oh I think I get it now

    trytrytry and I would get points back no matter what due to the nature of the pool (extra points not covered getting returned)

    shaun's post confused me because I didn't have bets on all and neither did trytrytry

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    maybe you invented some new form of parimutual wagering with a twist here im not sure...innovations happen all the time..

    ...but it looks crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    maybe you invented some new form of parimutual wagering with a twist here im not sure...innovations happen all the time..

    ...but it looks crazy.
    triple D had a different idea for it which is what Optional is using, I think

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    Now im confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    oh I think I get it now

    trytrytry and I would get points back no matter what due to the nature of the pool (extra points not covered getting returned)

    shaun's post confused me because I didn't have bets on all and neither did trytrytry
    Yeah exactly, as only 154 points bet on world, that is the maximum exposure on all teams should World win, therefore there is refunds to all Canada Europe and USA bettors.

    A massive pain in the ass to calculate.

    Payouts would have looked like this if traditional method.




    Sorry for confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    maybe you invented some new form of parimutual wagering with a twist here im not sure...innovations happen all the time..

    ...but it looks crazy.
    I agree try.

    I would have switched to the regular method when i realized what a bad idea it was but was afraid it would create even more confusion.


    Do you like the basic idea though?

    I think I'd like to do it daily for next weeks tourneys, with a 5% vig for the time/effort. Using the regular tote method of course.
    Last edited by Optional; 08-20-13 at 12:46 PM.

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    Leader Board

    EUR - 1
    WOR - 1
    USA - 0
    CAN -0

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    no one has won multiple tournaments yet

    Europe
    World
    USA

    so far
    Last edited by yisman; 08-20-13 at 02:50 PM.

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    I wish i would see this faster jao

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    USA - 2
    EUR - 1
    WOR - 1
    CAN -0

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    WIll you make betting available pls fro whoel world cup. i wanna win some points

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    Quote Originally Posted by slikec View Post
    WIll you make betting available pls fro whoel world cup. i wanna win some points
    Did you see the 2 threads in points forum from Triple_D_Bets? One to bet on players for main tourney, and one to pick a fantasy team.

    Think I'll also do this tote pool each day too.

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    Half way through. 6 down and 6 to go


    Leader Board


    EUR - 2
    USA - 2
    WOR - 2
    CAN -0


    Canada with 4 x 3rds and 2 x 4ths not showing their usual form in the warm up!

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    I'm glad to see SBR is keeping the past tournaments up and not removing the results from the lobby like they did with the dailies, will make it easier to track!

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    After 9 of 12

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    EUR - 3
    USA - 3
    WOR - 2
    CAN - 1




    Time
    1st 2nd 3rd 4th
    12
    EUR USA CAN WOR
    1 WOR EUR USA
    2 USA EUR
    3 USA WOR CAN EUR
    4 EUR USA CAN WOR
    5 WOR EUR CAN USA
    6 EUR WOR USA CAN
    7 CAN WOR USA EUR
    8 USA EUR WOR CAN
    9
    10
    11
    Last edited by Optional; 08-20-13 at 07:52 PM.

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    very nicely done opti. this is the first time ive taken part in a tote pool. not even sure how you calculated those numbers in post #4. so 154 was the variable that determined payouts ? anyway well done
    Last edited by Wulfman14; 08-20-13 at 10:44 PM.

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    Thanks Wulf. I wish I did not know how to calc it out too. It hurt my brain. LOL



    Did anyone get the result of the 10pm tourney for me? for some reason that one isnt showing in poker client



    Time 1st 2nd 3rd 4th
    12 EUR USA CAN WOR
    1 WOR EUR USA CAN
    2 USA EUR
    3 USA WOR CAN EUR
    4 EUR USA CAN WOR
    5 WOR EUR CAN USA
    6 EUR WOR USA CAN
    7 CAN WOR USA EUR
    8 USA EUR WOR CAN
    9 EUR USA CAN WOR
    10
    11 USA EUR WOR CAN

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    After 11 of 12

    Leader Board

    EUR - 4
    USA - 4
    WOR - 2
    CAN - 1


    I will payout when I can confirm the 10pm result. (pray for me it was Europe or USA so I don't need a recalc!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    After 11 of 12

    Leader Board

    EUR - 4
    USA - 4
    WOR - 2
    CAN - 1


    I will payout when I can confirm the 10pm result. (pray for me it was Europe or USA so I don't need a recalc!)
    I got the last win (USA).

    Edit: Nevermind. I see you're asking about 10pm. Doesn't seem to be there. Odd.

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    please be europe.

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    10 PM was canada, situation i believe...weird that it's the only one not listed
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    damn euros and americans tie. nebunul had it in hand for the euros too. back to the spread sheet opti
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    I was rooting for Europe or World to take it down today
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    Calculaters needed to work out payouts
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    Final Results Day 1

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    EUR - 4
    USA - 4
    WOR - 2
    CAN - 2




    Time
    1st 2nd 3rd 4th
    12
    EUR
    USA
    CAN
    WOR
    1 WOR EUR USA CAN
    2 USA EUR
    3 USA WOR CAN EUR
    4 EUR USA CAN WOR
    5 WOR EUR CAN USA
    6 EUR WOR USA CAN
    7 CAN WOR USA EUR
    8 USA EUR WOR CAN
    9 EUR USA CAN WOR
    10 CAN EUR USA WOR
    11 USA EUR WOR CAN


    Will have the payouts posted soon.

    Dont think it will be that tough to recalc, just want to make sure I have it correct before posting.

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    Not as tough as i thought.

    USA payouts are 67.74% of posted amounts
    EUR payouts are 32.26% of posted amounts



    USA Bet Win
    Triple_D_Bet 100 163
    Yisman 50 81
    trytrytry 333 540



    Europe Bet Win
    Optional 5 8
    shaunovery 50 63
    Yisman 75 97
    Wulfman 100 132
    Triple_D_Bet 17
    trytrytry 56

    Sending points now.

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    Thanks for playing everyone.

    Now I have my shit together and understand how this works better I will do it again each of the 4 days of the finals next week.

    But without the money back component in the rules, and without the chance of a tie.

    I'll put up a thread in the points forum for it next Monday and bump this thread to remind you guys.

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    Why for each day make for all 4 days. 1 day i to much variance 4 is a bit better value

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    Shouldnt i received 97 points for me dead heat

    Maybe someone could explain

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